Should women be rejected jobs for these reasons?
By smilejanica
@smilejanica (50)
China
December 1, 2009 7:33pm CST
I have been looking for jobs for several months. A very frustrated period. I was rejected often not because I was unqualified. but because I was in an age of getting married and having children soon. I'm 28 now, so I can't deny future marriage and child birth, but should this be taken into first consideration of hiring workers? Why almost every company asked these questions in the beginning of interviews?
21 responses
@jkcokley (265)
• United States
2 Dec 09
Someone correct me if I'm wrong here but isn't it against the law for an employer to ask in an interview about your intent to marry and if you are planning on having children? My understand is that is discrimination. So if they are asking these questions in an interview you may have some legal action.
I to an receiving some discrimination in the interview process however I am not able to prove it. I am lets say a few years older, I have a kid that is out of HS and two children still in school, my age has become the factor and the fact that I still have a small child at home under 7. Not only am I'm not getting jobs I qualify for even with my 24 years of experience, I get hit with my age, I'm a woman, I have children. Blah
Good luck with the interview process. I'm still looking as well.
@thenieruz (136)
• United States
2 Dec 09
My opinion is that they should not be allowed to judge based on this factor. However, a lot of places looking for employees are afraid of losing their new workers soon. So they put in these guidelines because it may be a risk. Suppose you decide to have kids and then decide you want to be a stay at home mom, then they're out an employee and have to look again. So while I can understand their reasoning, it still isn't right.
@smilejanica (50)
• China
2 Dec 09
Hi, friend, I also try to understand their worries, while still sad for this kind of judgement.Every normal woman has no way to deny future marriage and child birth. However, after again and again interviews, I was really frustrated and lost
patience in the same repeated questions, sometimes , I have a crazy idea, should I make a white lie and tell the interviewers I'm much younger, no boyfriend, no plan for marriage in 2-3 years, to get a good job. But, when they accept me, should I be happy for such a job? Should I respect and happily work for such a company?
@dreamr802 (985)
• United States
2 Dec 09
I didn't think that they could legally discriminate you because of that. I know my old boss use to hire women who were mainly divorced and whatnot. My old boss is very feminist, to the point where it's kind of annoying. But she couldn't ask those questions during an interview...she learned that stuff after getting to know us. I know she wasn't too thrilled about me having a serious boyfriend and whatnot but that didn't bother me. But you shouldn't be unqualified for any type of job because you might want to start a family.
@OpinionatedLady (5965)
• United States
2 Dec 09
No it is not right and in many states it is in fact illegal. Call your local politicians office to find out who to complain to.
@lovelyn_medrano (3070)
• Philippines
2 Dec 09
They are playing safe... They just don't want their operation to be paralized... When they hire you, then get married, for sure you will file leaves... and then what's next??? Getting pregnant?? There goes maternity leave again, aside from the leaves and absences you will do due to check ups and sickness...
But yes, it is really unfair... It is sad but that is the reality...
@RyanneD (186)
• United States
2 Dec 09
Actually I don't think that's intirely legal for them to ask you those questions. For example, if I went to a job interview and they asked me if I had kids I wouldn't be obligated to answer that question because that could sway their decision when it comes to hiring me. If they outright asked you if you planned on getting married and starting a family and then that was the reason that was given to you as to why you weren't chosen for the position than that's considered discrimination and you could do something about it if you wanted to.
@sudiptacallingu (10879)
• India
2 Dec 09
Well, of course we women should not be disqualified for something in which men have equal part to play but then that is the rule of the male dominated world…it has always been like this and I feel is just another ploy for men to discourage women from coming out of the home and working and gaining their independence.
Some cases are exceptions like the armed forces anybody and everybody can be called anytime for services so impending motherhood can be a problem there.
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• India
2 Dec 09
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@blablablu (221)
• Indonesia
2 Dec 09
Well, I believe the company have many reasons behind their question to you sis.
But I can list here the common interpretation of that question.
1. Unmarried women likely to be more mobile than married one. If you choose a position that asks you to travel a lot (like purchasing officer, audit officer, marketing officer, etc), then commonly the company will hire singles first as they have no burden (husband and children :p) in home to take care of.
2. It is strongly related to labour things and company policy. Many companies pay full salary to female officer who have labour and give them the necessary 2 months labour-holiday (usually, not a must). If you are just joining and having baby in 3 months, then it is very unefficient for the company as they have to look for early replacement when you are on labour. That's why usually company asks when will you plan to married, have children, etc.
3. It is also strongly related to the position. If the position is likely to expose appearance (sorry, didn't mean to be gender-bias or discrimination) like SPG, secretary, etc, company usually tends to hire singles and attractive one.
An advice for you, if you are really about having a children soon, I suggest you not to overlook for a permanent job. Consider looking for a job after you can leave your child on others (mother, baby sitter, etc) hands.
Hope this help!
Best regards.
@benny128 (3615)
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2 Dec 09
well am on the fence a little bit here,
I can understand from a womans point of view there should never be any discrimination.
But I can also see it from an employer's point of view, and the money it costs companies for the women to be off for 9 mths on maternity and trying to find replacements etc etc.
If I was a woman and someone asked me if I planned a famliy I would say no, as at the end of the day its none of their business but I can understand it from both points of view.
@yourlankanfriend (156)
• Australia
2 Dec 09
Hi, I know when you are trying to get into the employment market, it can be very daunting when you cant get your first job. Just keep at it because after many interviews you will get more confident at interviews. This issue is, although unfair, is a question that goes through human resources staff when hiring women. They have to consider that when you are pregnant they still have to pay you and they have to rehire someone until you return so it is a massive cost for firms. In particular if you have a maternity leave scheme in place.
@bulastika (5966)
• Philippines
2 Dec 09
Because employers is like buyers they want to get the best.
Example you want to buy t.v. theirs a lot of brand and they all claimed that they are the best brand..but why did you choose that particular brand? Because you think it worth for your money..
Same thing..
Your an employer.
the other side is a young woman, single and have five year chance of being single..
So it means more overtime, more energetic (because if your married and have children when you go home you need to do lots of things. like look for your children assignment..etc, So you have less sleep, less sleep less energy, less energy less work)
On other hand a married woman.. What if every year you get pregnant? sick leave, your child got sick etc..
I have an office mate that I hardly knew simply because Shes absent almost 10 days in a month! For many reasons...like her child is sick..then she got pregnant need to go to the doctor for check-up etc, etc, and our productivity in the office is affected..But what can the employer do? hire another employee to do her job when she's absent?..
Its just plain and simple..Married woman means more expenses than single.
..........
That why its very hard for a married woman to get a job.
@ameng328 (66)
• China
2 Dec 09
I think it depends on what job you're applying for.If the job require a lot of time spending on business trips or office work,then the employee have a point on their reasons rejecting you.But if not,the it's not reasonable and should be considered inhumane.Still i hope that you'll keep your family as well as find a good job.Best luck.
@warvial (1146)
• Singapore
2 Dec 09
Hi, I am in the same situation as you and I am totally feeling the frustration as my portfolio is almost blank to start with and I am 27. The interviewers will goes like.. Oh you are 27 this yr and some went on asking about issues such as "so does your boyfriend mind you working overtime" or "will he mind that your working environment is majority males".
Side tracked a bit, I was in a conversation with a friend who is in charged for hiring. I was very much upset with the way he shortlisted them. First, it was the look, second it was the age, and followed by the experience and then the education. I was initially shocked but it's seems like this happens to be a norm...
@Sir_bobby88 (8231)
• Singapore
2 Dec 09
Because they had to pay you salary even while you are not working yea .
@radiance27 (687)
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2 Dec 09
That's totally discriminating. Being a future mother must not be a hindrance to any career. Every women passes this stage of being a mother. People must know this because it's part of being a women.
@happy2512 (1266)
• Philippines
2 Dec 09
Yes its a pity that some companies are strict in recruiting I have experienced it before that my promotion is hold because I am married & of bearing age. Its more on a matter of they don't want us to have a maternity leave because its a big time loss for them in a matter of work they prefer men instead of women due to big leave time gaps.
@Josflch (93)
• Malaysia
2 Dec 09
It is very unethical not to hire a person because this reason. Everyone should have the same opportunities to be hire. But may be we can't do anything because they still not break the law, they might give other reason like they found another suitable employee when you file a complain. If you looking for government jobs, you might not face this problem, because they are not like the private company which very concentrate about what benefit they get for their company. Good luck for you and have a nice day.
@acer5540 (354)
• China
2 Dec 09
Hello~
i don't know the situation you said exists in China or around the world.But from some teleplays ,i think the problem is almost the same.As a individual,i think it is not equity to lose the change which maybe i can do the job well, give birth is the essential right of human, while some companies don't respect and consider this,just say no to women job finders if they are at the age of marriage or child birth. In my opinion, if you do want the job, you can explain to them that you are quite qualified for the work and tell the leader the plan about marriage , so they will have time to arrage your work to others, and if your marrage is under the schedule, you can find a job after you have a baby.sometimes, some companies consider the steady familily relationship is the protection of the job...
@Nameless_ (1180)
• Australia
2 Dec 09
I believe that this shouldn't be a factor of consideration when choosing someone to be suitable for a job. Often a women gets rejected due to prejudice and that is a very bad thing to do as an employer. I really don't know why they do that, but this is life. I suppose that hopefully gender equality will be more even later in the future, but for now, it still exists.
If you were a male they would be so wanting you to join because you are fresh and therefore have fresh ideas and if you stay loyal to the business they might boom up because of you. :(