Are you a geezer, a non geezer, an old boiler, or confused by American English?

@thea09 (18305)
Greece
December 2, 2009 7:50am CST
I was responding to a post where the American poster used the term non-geezers which left me a bit confused as I've not come across that word before. I was told a geezer was an older person, that is anyone over 65. I had the idea that a geezer was male but was told in these days of gender bending it applied to anyone of pensionable age. I looked it up and discovered it is an American slang term for an old man. Usually an eccentric old man who complains a lot and drives slowly. In English a geyser (same sound) is an old boiler. That in itself leads to two slang English terms, as an old boiler is a hen only fit for the cooking pot, or a bit of an old tart (not the jam kind). Further reading then produced the slang English definition of a geezer being a leery bloke, that is a man of any age who fits the lager lout and rowdy category. Are you a geezer, a non-geezer, an old boiler, or just confused with American and English slang?
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@ElicBxn (63595)
• United States
5 Dec 09
Actually, geezer and geyser don't sound the same - gee-zer is what you say, but a guy-zer is one of those hot things that blow out of the ground in places like Iceland and Yellowstone http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geyser I can see why they are called old boilers tho... now, an old tart is a woman who used to be a tart and still thinks she is but is more of a laughing stock these days... Yeah, I realize that a geezer is generally thought more of a male but there are some fe-type-males who fit the role any more, and generally they don't HAVE to be over 65, if they are retired and unable to work for whatever reason. Honestly, I've never heard of a drinker called a geezer unless they were first old. my roomie's father is a geezer and an old fart, but her brother is just a drunken lout. He was putting away vodka and lemonade at 7 a.m. on Thanksgiving, and not eating, needless to say, he was pretty pickled by evening.
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@ElicBxn (63595)
• United States
5 Dec 09
happily, he was asleep on the couch by the time I got there, but I feel for the roomie who will be having to spend time out there post surgery later this week!
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
5 Dec 09
Hi Elic, no actually back in the UK we did prononce a boiler type geezer a geezer but the hot water gusher things as guy-zer. Until I started this I'd never heard of a young lout refered to as a geezer. The mass of opinion here definitely rules out or objects to female geezers as they associate them with old geezers who they don't seem inclined to mix with have predetermined that they don't wash very much (thus pong) and drive incredibly slowly. Defintiely with you on the drinker though - if that one worked we'd surely say drunk as a geezer, boiler type. I came across a tourist old tart type last evening in the cafenion, too old for the mini skirt and fish nets and obviously up for a good time, still it made some of the local kamaking types smile and I think they thought she was a 'real' woman, whilst they'd objected completely to some rather glamorous types in the summer who were dressed to the nines after what was obvioulsy rather a lot of plastic implants. The only 2 Greek words which cover all these are moron, and malaka, but both applied to males. My sympathies that you were stuck with a pickled lout on thanksgiving.
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@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
5 Dec 09
Surely there must be somewhere more suitable than a place littered with drunken old farts and pickled louts.Certainly doesn't sound like a good place to be post surgery and doubt they'll be clucking round offering chucky eggs. Bad luck I say.
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@jillhill (37354)
• United States
2 Dec 09
None of thee above..I hope not anyway..just tipping toward being a senior citizen that being non specific either.. some think over 65.....discounts start at 55 some places putting me in that category.....for now I'll retain my youth and hope that term applies to me with I am 65....LOL
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
2 Dec 09
hi will you still need me,will you still feed me, when I am sixty five?" courtesy of the Beatles of course.he hehe
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
2 Dec 09
Hi jillhill, well I laughed when the same poster catergorised 40 as middle aged, I mean all these things have changed these days and middle age can't pssibly start until 55 unless one is is one of those born middle aged. I've come across a few of those in my time and they are just too miserable for words.
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• Australia
2 Dec 09
geezer - I am not a man, I am not eccentric, but I am over 65 - NO! geyser - I certainly get hot in our humid weather but - NO! old boiler - old: yes. boiler: no, I have plenty of young life left in me - NO! old tart - definitely, unequivocally - NO! confused - sometimes, sometimes often; but mostly - NO! mensch (thanks to fjaril) - yes, but sounds too masculine. conclusion: I am a lady - that is my story and I'm sticking with it.
• Australia
2 Dec 09
Sorry Thea, but the Aussie equivalents that I can think of are words which will never leave my mouth - or my fingers. If I think of others, I'll let you know. Maybe Lash or another Aussie will come up with some - but the page might turn blue. (I wish they'd chosen another colour for that: why ruin the reputation of the BEST colour?) In my understanding a boiler is a huge tank of boiling water or other liquid. Sugar mills and the rum distillery here have massive boilers. A boiler is also a chicken which is too old for any other means of cooking except boiling. That reminds me of when my brother and his family came here from England. I asked them if they preferred steak or chook for dinner that night. They were very hesitant and then asked, "What is chook?" (This probably belongs in Holly's discussion)
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
3 Dec 09
Is that chook as in chucky egg Cloud?
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
2 Dec 09
I'm glad to hear that you're none of the above Cloud and age really shouldn't come into it unless like the original poster of the word one feels that 65 is getting on a bit. I don't actually know if any of the Americans here got the old tart one as it is definitely an English expression. So haven't you got any Australian versions of these, or at least tell me if a boiler is still a boiler. Someone was referring to it as a furnace, Purple I believe, but those are really much bigger things than the little things which heat the water when the solar won't work. Which it won't today. Yes most definitely a lady in your case.
@zed_k4 (17589)
• Singapore
2 Dec 09
Hiya Thea, I'm a non-geezer definitely. I think I'm not an expert in slangs, and I'm going to watch your space here for more that I could learn from other users. As the discussion gets going, I'll be sure to learn more, lol...
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
2 Dec 09
That's a huge relief of my mind Zed as I definitely had you down as the non geezer type. I think that if Witty pops along though we'll have to tease him that he's a bit of an old tart.
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• United States
2 Dec 09
I would definitely have to agree that I think Zed is a non-geezer but Misterwit is the perfect mental image of an old geezer, or at least his avatar is anyway.
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@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
2 Dec 09
No, can't agree there and Mr Misterwit would be most offended to be thought of as an old geezer, defintitely a bit of an old tart in my mind.
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
2 Dec 09
Some of that Brit stuff confuses me! :-) But I'd probably get called an old bag long before I'd be called a geezer. And then I'd whack whoever said it over the head with a stick. Only I haven't gotten out of prison yet from the last killing...
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
2 Dec 09
Dawn it was the American stuff that was confusing me, how can a word which was meant to describe an eccentric old man suddenly be applied to women to, don't the female equivalents of old geezers have their own name, come on enlighten me. Old bag is an English one which I'm suprised you've got. In Greek I get it confused with a warn out old shoe as it's practically identical. Have you any idea what Purple is talking about?
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• United States
2 Dec 09
Purple has no idea what Purple is talking about, but she hoped that someone else would and would be kind enough to clue her in.
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• United States
2 Dec 09
That reminds me of something that one of my old bosses used to say. I can't remember the term, because it was an "oldie", but he used to joke that someone got called that and she took offense and hit him in the head with her bag of quarters. I never understood the joke until my mom explain that the term he was using referred to a woman that would sell herself for a quarter, which I think was a lot of money back in those days.
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@jb78000 (15139)
2 Dec 09
oh, so that is where the derogatory meaning of boiler comes from? learn something pointless every day. that is my motto. didn't know geezer could mean old fart in american, rather than its proper meaning of youngish wanker. anyway i am not old, not male and don't eject hot water. i also don;t really wish my identity to be based entirely on not being a geezer so won;t describing myself as a non-geezer either. any other options?
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
2 Dec 09
You're kidding, in which language is a geezer a malaka? English or American. At least you've reminded me of why I associated the word geezer with something slightly human in the first place rather than just a geyser, it's the spouting of hot air, or rather steam. I do hope Hatley pops along to give her input here as she's over 65 and bet she won't like any of the above.
@jb78000 (15139)
2 Dec 09
somewhere inbetween 'wanker' and 'lad' then?
• United States
2 Dec 09
JB, I am not sure whether or not I want an answer to this question but ... you specified that you do not "eject hot water", so is there another liquid that is more to your liking, such as Kool-aide or soda perhaps?
• United States
3 Dec 09
geezer usually is a male,i've never heard it applied to females. sometimes they say "old coot" too,which means about the same thing. doesn't have to be 65 or eccentric,just anybody who acts old (a.k.a-hey you kids,get off my lawn),gripes constantly,peeps out the windows all the time,calls cops on neighbors for nothing,that type. i have a good friend who corrupts it further-he calls himself a "portu-geezer" as he is of portuguese decent. but yea,english slang can be confusing.
• United States
7 Dec 09
oh yea,slobby as ever. no geezers but one biddy.
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
3 Dec 09
Hi Scarlet, well maybe the poster who explained she was an old geezer when I thought it was a boiler term is the peeping out of the window kind, who knows. I'm relieved that it isn't seen as a term applied to women as it is a nasty sounding word and after all these responses it seems like a cross between a grump and an old wino. I haven't heard a word about the slobs recently, everyone slobbing around in the usual fashion I hope. Old coot implies male in rocking chair to me and slightly barmy.
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
2 Dec 09
hi thea oh my no not at all I am an elderly woman yes but not an old geezer who is usually smelly, doesnt bathe often and does have to be reminded to change his clothes so I am an non geezet but have no idea what a boiler is at all, and I take it a geyser is a form of cooking stove, or what? I am notup on british stuff really , but I am not an old hen either or an old tart. my roomie with the wild clothes she wears might have been a bit of an old tart at one time,he he but believe it or not I really like the lady,she is kind,considerate outside of talking too much, and really rather smart but wow the clothes she wears she get whistles from some of the geezers here, yes we have them, Let me tell you some of the poor care givers have to bathe these guys, and Idont think I could do that now. I worked as a nurses aide for years but my patients could almost always was possible, you see we told them we would wash down as far as possible, and up as far as possible but they had to wash possible, which of course is a nice way of saying the genital area.
@RawBill1 (8531)
• Gold Coast, Australia
3 Dec 09
Glad to hear that you are not smelly! Possible! That is hilarious...LOL
@SomeCowgirl (32191)
• United States
3 Dec 09
I don't know about everyone, but I live in the south and I pronounce Geezer and geyser differently. Let me try to hmm... phonetically spell it? Is that the word I am looking for? In any case... Geezer to me is Gee-zur... ang geyser is guy-zur... lol.. Hmm... Yes english can be a very confusing subject, especially if you come down here to the south where I don't even know how many times I use slang in a day! lol!
@SomeCowgirl (32191)
• United States
10 Dec 09
Purplealabaster, I am glad I'm not the only one who pronounces the two words in that way. Thea, you present a challenge... hmmm... I reckon I'll have to oblige ya there then. lol, okay not the best I admit. Look at that there thingie mabob? lol... is that better? I once had an online friend that I had a conversation with on the differences between redneck, hillbilly, and hick... I don't remember what I had said to him in regards to that though. I'd say the way I typed ^ up there was more "hickish" lol.
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
3 Dec 09
Hi ladies, your second pronounciation is for me the hot water type which gushes out of nowhere such as on barren land, or an oil find. Come on Amber, give me a sentence in good old Southern slang.
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• United States
3 Dec 09
SomeCowgirl, I am glad that you pointed that out. I didn't say that earlier, because I thought I was the only one and was pronouncing it wrong, but I pronounce geezer and geyser the same way that you do. I am glad to see that I am not the only one that pronounces it that way.
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@ANTIQUELADY (36440)
• United States
3 Dec 09
I have always heard american slan is hard for people to understand that aren't from here. I really don't use any of those terms to describe people but guess some americans do. I'd just probably call them something ugly, lol.
@ANTIQUELADY (36440)
• United States
3 Dec 09
Ryan called me this morn to wish me a happy birthday. It was wonderful to hear that sweet little voice. i'll be glad when he feels better. sorry i missed the fun but i have just been feeling so bad i haven't felt like being my silly self. hope u & Hugo are fine.
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
3 Dec 09
Happy birthday Aunty, I hope you're feeling more relaxed today. I expect a phone call from Ryan made your day to start with. We're fine thanks but our summer weather has rather abruptly ended and it is cold. I'm going to see if I can find some thermal socks on line later.
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@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
3 Dec 09
Hi Aunty, hope Ryan's still doing well. You missed a great chance here to throw in some ole Tennessee slang, you usually have the best ones of anyone.
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@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
5 Dec 09
Non-geezer. Sadly, I can't say that I'm confused with American slang. Although, when my kids years ago started saying "my bad" that confused me. I also think it's the most ridiculous slang that American's use currently.
@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
5 Dec 09
My bad means my fault LOL
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
5 Dec 09
That I would NEVER have guessed.
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
5 Dec 09
'my bad'? Lost me there Zeph. Had they got tummy ache or something, or is it a kind of hat?
@sunny68 (1327)
• India
3 Dec 09
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
3 Dec 09
You're. So am I. I'm not used to a silent Sunny.
@sunny68 (1327)
• India
10 Dec 09
i just thought that might be the easiest and simplest way to score a point....
• United States
2 Dec 09
I am none of the above, except perhaps for "easily confused".
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
2 Dec 09
Oh it was an American woman who called herself a geezer, I had to look it up as I thought she was confused with a boiler man as I'm sure at some point the old man who came to fix the boiler in the UK might have been a geezer, but I thought that was probably something to do with fixing geysers for a living. He was very ancient but not at all cantankerous as I recall and no one else did it so cheap.
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
2 Dec 09
That makes two normal ones so far then Purple, just you and me.. Have you ever heard the term geezer applied to a woman or is it only okay when a woman uses the word to describe herself?
• United States
2 Dec 09
I am not really sure, Thea. I know that I have heard it to describe an old man, but I don't think I have ever heard it used to describe and old woman - or if I have then I have forgotten it. I have heard old women described as "old hags" or even "old bags", but the term geezer does bring to mind the image of an old man versus an old woman. It will be interesting to see what other Americans have to say on the subject.
• India
4 Dec 09
Thats quite a question full of confusions can't really decide on this
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
4 Dec 09
Hi vishonboard, well that's a shame as we haven't had much Indian input here into the mix of words. It's tended to be UK, Australian and American contributions and it would have been interesting to hear which ones have filtered across the Indian ocean.
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
5 Dec 09
Good to see you back to elaborate, so the Indian style you have with these words is more in line with the English ones than the Americanisms. Punters is one I haven't heard for ages but defintiely English, and may possibly have originated with betting shop customers I think, though now covers a wider range or spender, as in open the doors and let the punters in.
• India
4 Dec 09
well i picked this word whilst i was in London working in the betting shop , i had an English manager who used this word quite frequently , we used to have customers (punters) those old guies and they used to give us the hard time so he will call anybody a geezer weather a old one or the young one so your post elaborated on the word and to be used for the oldies specifially ... well with the indian perspective what i know about the geezer is more or less a old boiler mate .. cheers
• United States
2 Dec 09
I've never heard of a non-geezer or an old boiler either. I don't think you are confused. I've also noticed like in other places meanings of slangs vary by where you grew up or have very different slangs than you are accustomed to. Even the slangs of dare I say my generation some are still around others are not & confuse people who are of a diff generation. Sorry I'm not much help on this one either
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
2 Dec 09
Hi snuggleBunnies, I still think the differences between English and American words are most peculiar, there's many a time I've ended up with a mature content tag because of the most innocent English word being taken offence at by the Amercian censor on here.
@cynthiann (18602)
• Jamaica
2 Dec 09
I have gone through life being confused! But - I am - let me think again ...... O.K. I do not mind being thought to be confused with either American or British slang.
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
2 Dec 09
Well you're far too nice to fit into any of those categories anyway so best to remain confused by them all.