Are you aware of the risk of the Antartic melting?

It is never too late. I dont think people need to be scared, but I do think we need to be a whole lot more careful with our carbon emissions.

Yes, the myth is that some of the warmest temperatures ever have been within the last 10-15 years. The heart of Climategate is that true data clearly shows temps have been going down and that is what the 'scientists' were trying to cover up (hide the decline). Temperature cycles are normal. Back in the 1970's there was also a cooling period and the 'scare tactic' at that time was that another ice age was coming. For a global issue, we wasted no time in going from ice age threat to major over-heating threat. As far as the U.S. having our fingers in the pie at Copenhagen, I think the problem is more like the U.S. (and some other countries) being the pie that is about to be sliced. You have to look at what is really going on there. Do you think the third world countries that walked out of the meetings were concerned about pollution from man-made carbon dioxide? Not in the least. The developing countries are at Copenhagen because they expected it to be a big handout - like going to see Santa Claus. The story they have been led to believe is that they need billions of dollars for their countries to prepare for the pending global warming disaster. And I suppose they will give the money back when there is no such disaster? The liberal goal is known as wealth redestribution. As far as the carbon credits on your electric bill, I am sorry to say, but this just shows how far this scam has been carried. Practically every politician from mayor on up has felt the pressure to save the planet from global warming, and the best way to do that is tax the people. The whole thing is about money and control, and it is all a fraud. djbtol

I respect your knowledge on this issue, as you have a lot more stats than I do. I did note on the news last note, that certain 3rd workd countries claimed they needed compensation. The part I dont get though, from what we are seeing in Australia, is the worst drought in living memopry, and heatwavers we have never hasd before. Ourt stats are showing a temp climb over the past few years.

We are in a cooling period? That I did not know. I did know our government had a big finger in the pie at Copenhagen. Which is kind of hyprocritical of them, seeing as all our electricity bills have a graph showing how many carbon credits I have persoinally sent into the atmosphere.

You've got that right, no matter what we do. Even if we could remove all the man made carbon dioxide from the atmosphere, there would be no change in the earth's atmosphere. djbtol

Yes, I have known that the earth has always had heating and cooling cycles, but have the cycles changed in intensity far more rapidly? Australias records show that it has. Unfortunately our records only go back about 220 years.

I'm sure there would be some change, but nowhere close to as much as the fanatics would like us to believe. I'm all for helping the environment but they need to keep it within reason.

Sorry, I am not into global environmental scare for the sake of wealth re-distribution. It is just a scam.

Probably the human race is not going to be able to think as one. But if every government possible influenced their people, it would have to all add up.

Is this all for wealth distribution? Which countries are going to benefit and which will be worse off?

You are so right. The other day, in a vaguely related discussion someone told me that she/ he didnt believe in global warming! I cant figure out how they worked that out. I even asked why they thought this and there was no reply. In my state, we have banned all plastic bags, so we use cloth bags for shopping.

Our species is in great danger.

WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE! Quick, tell me, where can I send my money to avert this catastrophe?

As long as the UN and other countries are antagonistic against the U.S., there will not be common agreement. Global talks about protecting the environment are fine, but they must be based on fact, not greedy agendas full of lies. I don't know how honesty and integrity would ever become front and center since many countries do not really consider them to be good characteristics.

It certainly would be good if everyone thought the same, but I dont think that is likely to happen.

I live in the higher part of Adelaide so I wouldnt need to move.

Im inclined to agree that we wont see so much of it in our lifetime, but I guess the the compassionate amongst us would like to see our grandchildren protected. Apparently the Australians at Copenhagen rejected the proposals.

I read again in todays paper that the huge chunk of ice is still floating around and bits of it are breaking off causing a hazzard to shipping.

It is actually only an assumption that any global warming is bad. Many have commented that a little increase will increase the growing season in many countries and allow more production of food. I've never thought about the fishies, but I'm not expecting any significant rise in ocean waters. The icebergs are not melting any more than normal and the polar bears are doing just fine. djbtol

I never thought of it from this point of view. Hope it is realistic.

That is true. But we cant force our recycling laws onto everywhere. I hope that positive example will influence others.

Well, yes, getting too worried is of no benefit, so I guess doing what we can as individuals to reduce greenhouse gas is effective.

I havent seen it, but I am very keen too. Have promised my daughter to take her to see this movie.

Yes, you have brought up a good point about the polar bears. Many of us dont think of that when considering the effects of melting ice caps.

Yes, we are close, and the warming of the planet is affecting us already with heat waves and drought.