Pie is NOT easy....but...
By PeacefulWmn9
@PeacefulWmn9 (10420)
United States
December 28, 2009 8:11pm CST
All my life, I've heard the expression: easy as pie.
Well, eating pie is easy if you love it, but baking a good pie can really be a bit tricky if you're doing it from scratch. The crust tears easily and there is a trick to making it "flaky" and it's also a fine art knowing just how much thickening a fruit pie might need.
This year for Christmas dinner, for the first time in years, I baked two apple pies from scratch, and they turned out really well! I was pleased, needless to say.
Do you like baking pies or do it often? Do you have your favorites and any little tips and tricks that ensure they turn out just right?
Karen
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25 responses
@barehugs (8973)
• Canada
29 Dec 09
Easy as pie! Yes, there are few baked items as easy as pie. But like most things there is a trick to doing it the easy way.
First you have to go shopping. Look in the frozen food section and find a frozen pie shell already in the aluminum pan. Then in the refrigerated section find the rolled unfrozen pie pie crust.
Now, in the canned fruit section buy a can of Pie filling.
When you are ready for a pie, (and who isn't?) dump the can of pie filling into the pie shell,roll the top pie crust over the pan containing the filling and bottom crust. Crimp the edges of the pie crust, make steam holes in the top crust, and bake in a 400F oven for 40 minutes.
What could be easier?
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@barehugs (8973)
• Canada
29 Dec 09
Yes but, I find canned pie filling too sweet, so I use frozen blueberries, and apples out of the bin. To stretch your filling, use diced apples mixed with the fruit of your choice. I use 1/3 cup of sugar, 1 or 2 Tbs. of tapioca, and 3 or 4 apples to fill a 9 inch pastry. The tapioca makes a delicious thickener.
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@PeacefulWmn9 (10420)
• United States
29 Dec 09
It does seem for many of us the crust is the trickiest part...so many use your solution to make pie easier lol.
Thank you for the tips!! But, what could be easier? Eating it!
Karen
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@PeacefulWmn9 (10420)
• United States
29 Dec 09
My mom sometimes uses tapioca. I do my fillings from scratch, for then I can sweeten and season them to taste.
@sweetlady10 (3611)
• United States
29 Dec 09
I am not a big fan of pie, I really don't like any kind of pie. I have not tried to bake one by myself yet, as I don't like it I don't feel the urge to make it on my own. Fro parties I buy from store.
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@PeacefulWmn9 (10420)
• United States
29 Dec 09
Well if you like simple or easy cooking, then not baking pies is definitely a good choice to make :)
On occasion in the past, I've bought them already made, but usually, I made them myself, following a recipe, and adding a prayer lol. It had been a long long time, though.
Karen
@yugasini (12893)
• Secunderabad, India
29 Dec 09
hi karen madam,
i does not know what is pie, i think that i have seen in the stores of those who sell imported chocolates and cakes,pizzas,actually i does not like all these type of food,these foods are called as junk foods,am i correct or not?when i came to your home if i visit your country in my life time,i eat the preparations made by you,but only vegetarian ,have a nice day
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@PeacefulWmn9 (10420)
• United States
29 Dec 09
Hi Yugasini. The pie I made would be fine for a vegetarian. It has a crust, or shell, made with wheat flour, oil or shortening, and the filling is fresh fruit, spices, a bit of vinegar, and sugar (the sugar might be consider junk food.) But for me, they are very rare and they do taste delicious.
Other pie fillings are made with pumpkin, or sweet potatoes, and puddings.
All kinds of pies. You and your family would do fine sitting down as honored guests at my table, as I seldom eat meat either. :)
I eat a lot of rice, vegetables, fruits, salads, and whole grain things.
Karen
@yugasini (12893)
• Secunderabad, India
29 Dec 09
hi karen madam and vandana madam,
thanks for the comment/response and information about junk food and pie,i have remember now that i have tried one piece of pie in the last year,when i am selling that stuff in my shop with other biscuits and chocolates,but the shop was closed due to some unavoidable circumstances,have a nice day both of you
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@vandana7 (100123)
• India
29 Dec 09
That is sweet karen. :) Well, out here it is a norm to call anything that comes from bakery as junk food, other than bread of course. :) The idea is they all add calories. :) And Yugasini, you should try pie before rejecting it outright. It is quite tasty. :)
@billzehua (573)
• China
30 Dec 09
I don't like pies a bit,coz i like pure salty food.But i do like American Pies, from 1~6, you get me, karen?lol
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@PeacefulWmn9 (10420)
• United States
31 Dec 09
Oh, are you talking about the American Pie movies? :D
I don't like a lot of salt ... not too good for me.
Karen
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
29 Dec 09
Hi Karen, pastry is my culinary failure. Luckily I could live forever without pies but sometimes I like to do eccles cakes, but anything which involves a floury surface and a rolling pin seems to defeat me. I get bored when it sticks to the rolling pin and breaks and does things its not supposed to. So the only tip I have is the bin is over there.
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@PeacefulWmn9 (10420)
• United States
3 Jan 10
LOL, well they sound delicious. Bet "failed" crust would be excellent with some sugar and cinnamon, too.
@PeacefulWmn9 (10420)
• United States
29 Dec 09
Hi Thea. Hm, I wonder how pastry would come out if you made it in the bread maker? You could invent marmalade pies or pockets, etc.
LOL, I've thrown a few of the "stickers and rippers" in the bin myself!
Karen
@malamar (779)
• Canada
29 Dec 09
It is "easy as pie" to go to the local bakery and buy a pie , it makes me feel as if I am contributing to our local businesses!
Seriously though, I am a terrible baker and would never even attempt to make any type of pie from scratch. I do appreciate those who have the talent to make it happen, but alas, I am not one of them.
Should you ever require a pie taster - count me in, that I am very good at.
@PeacefulWmn9 (10420)
• United States
29 Dec 09
That's a good one, Malamar, all the way around. If the mood comes around once again in a blue moon, I'll invite you over to try the first bite :D
Karen
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@wolfie34 (26771)
• United Kingdom
3 Jan 10
Fortunately or unfortunately as the case may be I neither like pies or able to cook them! I find them too stodgy for my palatte. I must be strange because even a home made apple pie wouldn't tempt me or have my mouth watering. The nearest to pie I would get is humble pie mind you eating humble pie is far from easy, in fact it can prove impossible especially if you have a stubborn streak like yours truly. Do you know I didn't have one single mince pie over the Christmas or New Year period!
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@PeacefulWmn9 (10420)
• United States
4 Jan 10
Stodgy...that is unique! Love that word.
Perhaps a spicy pizza "pie" would make your mouth water. And you're right, humble pie is hard to swallow, but once digested, does the soul good.
Karen
@ElicBxn (63568)
• United States
18 Jan 10
I am no cook, I've done a countable number of pies in my life - but let me explain WHY the phrase is "as easy as pie."
Well, let me tell you a story.
My mother and father lived for a year in Denver in the late 1940's and the place they lived in had a wood burning stove/oven.
There was NO way to set a temp on that thing, it was whatever it was and sometimes it'd heat up or cool off while cooking.
The thing is that you can't cook a cake that way. Cakes in the old days were tricky things...
But pies you could put in and it didn't matter if the temp changed, you just cooked it until you were done - and THIS is where the term comes from. Not the thickening, not the crust, but the actual cooking of the pie itself.
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@PeacefulWmn9 (10420)
• United States
19 Jan 10
Hi Elic
Ohhhh, so that explains a lot lol. I never could understand why anyone would think making a pie was easy! Now that you've explained the origins of the saying, it makes perfect sense, so thank you!
Karen
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@ANTIQUELADY (36440)
• United States
29 Dec 09
I bet your apple pies were good. Have to have [i think] ice cream on fruit pies,how about u. I do make pies but not as much as i use to because i sure don't need them, When my sons were at home i kept something baked all the time. Since they brought friends in all the time they enjoyed them to. Happy tuesday, Karen.
@PeacefulWmn9 (10420)
• United States
3 Jan 10
That is the truth! Some good changes, others...well they are not so good.
@PeacefulWmn9 (10420)
• United States
29 Dec 09
Hi Jo :)
Yes, I was so happy that they DID turn out good. I've had my share of failed pies in the past lol. Like you, I only bake when company will be around to help eat it, as I sure don't need it all to myself! And yup, when the kids were all home, I baked something every day or two. They did fine, since they burned off all those calories, and back then, so did I...keeping up with THEM lol.
Happy Tuesday to you, too, sweetie.
Karen
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@Fortunata (1135)
• United States
29 Dec 09
Good for you! I wish I could make a decent pie crust, the only one I've been able to make is that one you 'mix' with vineagar, lol! Better than nothing, I guess. Maybe I'll pick up some good tips here!
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@PeacefulWmn9 (10420)
• United States
29 Dec 09
Hi Fortunata.
Hey, I say go with whatever works lol. I do love a challenge, and for me, making a good pie is a "win."
Take care and enjoy your night.
Karen
@maygodblessu44 (7336)
• India
17 Jan 10
Hello my friend PeacefulWmn9 Ji,
Well, mostly, I am limited to bake Bringals and make it stuff with lot of masalas.
Other vegetables like biiter-gourd/ lady-fingers/etc. are fried on Fire plate and made crisp for good taste. I am restricted with all vegetarian dishes only.
May God bless You and have a great time.
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@PeacefulWmn9 (10420)
• United States
18 Jan 10
Hello my friend :)
I have heard that vegetarian eating is very healthy. Most pies in the US would do fine with vegetarians, as many are made with the crust and fruit...no meat and no animal products needed!
Have a beautiful day and God's blessings to you,
Karen
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@jb78000 (15139)
•
29 Dec 09
i make savoury pies sometimes. i can't make puff pastry just flat (well i haven't tried) so if i want that i usually buy it in ready made. as for tricks - well i have been told to leave the pastry for a while before rolling it out and brush egg on top. i am afraid that is it. now another saying is 'a piece of cake' - i don't know how easy it is to make cakes because as i am not a huge sweet thing fan i have never actually attempted to make one. some kinds must be difficult though.
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@PeacefulWmn9 (10420)
• United States
29 Dec 09
Hi Jb
Savoury pies...are they meat pies? I have had a few, but have never made one.
Yes, piece of cake I could buy, since they are much easier for me than baking pies. I don't do either often, since I would eat way too much and get fat as a house!
Karen
@PeacefulWmn9 (10420)
• United States
3 Jan 10
Actually, that sounds pretty good, sort of like a quiche without the egg :))
@randylovesdar (4932)
• United States
2 Jan 10
I love baking and sometimes I do make pies. I am thinking about making a peanut butter chocolate pie this weekend for my husband. I usually buy the premade pie crusts because they are easier to use. I have not made a fruit pie in a while, but am thinking about making one sometime next week when we go over to my friend's house. Every month we take turns having a little get together.
@PeacefulWmn9 (10420)
• United States
3 Jan 10
Hello there :)
I do have to agree that pre-made crusts make the process much easier. Yum, a peanut butter chocolate pie sounds delicious! I bet your hubby will enjoy it.
Our neighbors upstairs belong to a dinner club they attend where each couple takes a turn hosting. They always enjoy it, whether attending or hosting :)
Karen
@rose66 (378)
• China
29 Dec 09
i like pies. but chinese uaually don't bake food. so i havn't bake even one itme.
our foreigner teacher baked some for us and i like them evry much. my favorite pie is pumpkin pie. it tastes so delicious and soft and if you have one, you'll be unable to bear having more. so i want to buy a oven and try to do pies by myself!
@PeacefulWmn9 (10420)
• United States
29 Dec 09
Hi Rose.
Is there a certain reason that Chinese food is not baked? I love learning about other cultures.
I also love pumpkin pie. It is very popular here in the cold months, especially so around Thanksgiving and Christmas time. If you do ever try pies, have fun :)
Karen
@PeacefulWmn9 (10420)
• United States
3 Jan 10
...and here in the US, we love YOUR food. Even in my small city, we have to restaurants own and operated by Chinese families, and the food is delicious!
@gabs8513 (48686)
• United Kingdom
29 Dec 09
I do not know if my last response got through as I am on Mobile Dial up and it is rubbish lol
But no I do not bake and I have watched People bake Pies and I have to say it looked complicated to me lol so I will not even attempt it
@PeacefulWmn9 (10420)
• United States
29 Dec 09
No, I haven't seen another message, but obviously this one made it through.
It really is complicated, which is why it feels so good to make a pie that turns out well lol.
Karen
@savypat (20216)
• United States
29 Dec 09
I have to beg out of this one, I have not baked a pie for many years and it is one thing I am happy not to try again, there is just to much chance of something going wrong, and I would bet that anything that can go wrong has happened to my pies. Good for you you are very brave.
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@PeacefulWmn9 (10420)
• United States
29 Dec 09
LOL Pat, the things that can and do go wrong with pies is why I hadn't baked any in about 900 years! It is also why it felt like a coup to have done so and had them turn out right lol.
Karen
@jahernandezrivas (11288)
• United States
29 Dec 09
I have tried to make so many pies in the past from scratch and failed every time. I wish I could make an Apple pie or even a Blueberry one yummy! I just can't seem to get it right. Any tips? So I just started buying tose ones that are frozen in Wal-Mart. Not as good as homemade but maybe one day I will learn I won't give up! So pie is not easy for me.
@PeacefulWmn9 (10420)
• United States
29 Dec 09
Hi Jah
Well with pies, if on the 100th try you fail, I say rather than trying another time, go out and buy one lol. So you did well.
Perhaps one day, you'll try and luck will be on your side. It happens occasionally to me.
Karen
@Sandra1952 (6047)
• Spain
29 Dec 09
Hello, Karen. Agree with you wholeheartedly - pastry can be a b*tch. My son used to work in a bakery in Cornwall, England, making Cornish Pasties and other bakery products. I make a mean Cornish Pasty, which in case you don't know is a sort of turnover savoury pie with meat, potatoes, onions and swede. However, you're supposed to be able to pick it up and eat it, and my pastry was always too crumbly.
My son passed on these tips: use strong bread making flour for savoury pies, as it holds together better and you can roll it out thinner than pastry made with regular flour, thus avoiding a soggy bottom! Always use margarine rather than butter or lard for shortening. Butter and lard are too rich and make for crumbly pastry. Make the pastry at least an hour ahead of when you need it, if not the night before, and store it in the fridge. It rolls out better and is easier to handle.
Since I adopted these methods, I've never had a failure with my pastry.
@PeacefulWmn9 (10420)
• United States
29 Dec 09
Pastry IS hard lol. I admire that your son did it for a living! Your cornish pastry sounds like a delicious meal, all in one crust. I bet it's still delicious, crumbly or not :)
Storing it in the fridge sounds like a great idea. I imagine it makes it much easier to work with, so thank you for that and the other tips!
Karen
@Orea15 (281)
• United States
29 Dec 09
You are so right! I've been trying to put together a recipe for a mile high rhubarb pie with the correct type and amount of thickening, and I've been having trouble with it. I have had them come out too juicy and too thick and gooey. If anyone has some good ideas or a recipe, I would really appreciate it.
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@PeacefulWmn9 (10420)
• United States
29 Dec 09
Hello Oreo
Yes, this can be tricky, since it's unpredictable, even following a recipe to a T, just how much of its own "juice" fresh fruit is going to make. So I think there is no magic tip, unfortunately.
Karen
@nijolechu (1842)
• Canada
29 Dec 09
I admire people that have to make pies. I have tried to make pies from scratch too. It really takes a long time to peel the apples and slice them and to add the right amount of flavoring to it. The crust is pretty tough for me because I can't make them into perfect circles, they look like squares. My pies still turned out okay too. I don't bake them that often.
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@PeacefulWmn9 (10420)
• United States
29 Dec 09
Hello Nijolechu
I think a crust does not have to be a perfect circle or even a circle at all to make a good pie. But as you said, they do take time and a certain knack. That is why I think they are not easy!
Karen