The Blame Game

@TLChimes (4822)
United States
December 30, 2009 4:10pm CST
Another discussion asked which of the recent presidents were to blame for the recent terror attempt. When Bush was in office everyone wanted to blame him for whatever, and now Obama is dealing with everyone getting a bit peeved at his actions an in actions. I would like to understand things a bit and this may help others like me.... I always thought that the presidents didn't act alone. That they have to stamp a yes and no on what is fiddled with in the 2 Houses.... That both sides of each add their two bits and take out what they want.... If it is our votes, them folks, and then the President.... then aren't all to blame? Our voting, their pork and bickering, and his signature?
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• United States
31 Dec 09
LOL, you have to understand that we are a country of no PERSONALLY RESPONSIBILITY. I live in a state that where our former governor left office with a 17% approval rating, and NO ONE would admit to voting for him. Yet, he won his last election by 65%. It is much easier to blame someone else for the mess that we create. No one wants to be told that they screwed up, and that everything is their fault (even if it is). It is much easier to blame someone, than to admit that WE were wrong, and fix the problem.
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@TLChimes (4822)
• United States
31 Dec 09
*grabs her tool box* Let's get to fixing! Wait, where the heck do I start? Do you know what my city offices are like? The schools? the state government? The federal? ..... I need a bigger tool box!
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• United States
31 Dec 09
Well you have to start somewhere.
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@natnickeep (2336)
• United States
30 Dec 09
I would have to agree we are all at blame. What people fail to realize when bashing these presidents is they are human too. They make mistakes. Not to mention they have one of the toughest jobs around. And when it comes to the government period because of all the past fails people are quick to throw the blame at them.
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@TLChimes (4822)
• United States
30 Dec 09
And from where I sit it does no one any good.
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• United States
30 Dec 09
Yep it is not like these people throwing the blame are getting up to do anything about it either.
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@bobmnu (8157)
• United States
31 Dec 09
President Truman said it best "The Buck Stops Here". Who is to blame - President Obama, this happened on his watch and how he handles it will show what kind of a leader he is.
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@anniepa (27955)
• United States
3 Jan 10
How did Napolitano fail, Taskr? There were mistakes made, dots that weren't connected, but what could she have done personally other than doing everyone else's job herself, which would be impossible? Annie
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
2 Jan 10
He doesn't hold all the power because he delegates he. He appointed Napalitano to be in charge of homeland security and she failed so he is responsible for appointing a failed homeland security chief. No matter how you look at it, The buck stops with Obama. I suppose if you really wanted to take it a step further though you could blame the people who voted for him.
@TLChimes (4822)
• United States
1 Jan 10
I disagree because he doesn't hold all the power... that's why things were set up as they were
@Latrivia (2878)
• United States
31 Dec 09
I didn't vote - period - so don't look at me. However, the president IS not a one man army. You can't blame him for everything. 9-11 wan't Bush's fault, Christmas day wasn't Obama's fault...there's plenty of blame to go around, but it's not all the fault of the president. The bickering is a big problem, though. It's probably the biggest, in my opinion. I have to wonder that if the voters AND our elected officials had a maturity level that didn't rival a 4 year old's, would we actually come to a reasonable compromise on things? The world will never know.
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@bobmnu (8157)
• United States
31 Dec 09
It is all about leadership. President Obama is seen as a weak leader and very indecisive. Many people feel he will only talk and not take action.
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• United States
31 Dec 09
It is far easier for politicians to spew their rhetoric, whichever side it may be on than actually step up, assume some sort of responsibility and work towards a solution to the problem. Good governing comes from compromise. A concept that seems to lost on elected officals at ALL levels of government.
@artistry (4151)
• United States
31 Dec 09
...Hi bobmnu, I beg to differ with you. Maybe certain people are trying to portray him as weak leader, but this man Obama, is sending drones and killing Al Queda leaders all over the place. Not a week hardly has gone by that some Al Queda operative has not been eliminsted. So please research if you can and see what the President has been doing behind the scenes. He has not come out as the previous administration did with "we just killed the number 3 man" and so forth, maybe he should. But don't think this man is a weak leader, if you think back, a show of whether he was weak was when he gave the order to the sharp shooters to "take the shot" and killed those three young pirates, when that Captain was captutred. You should ask that Captain if he thinks Obama is a weak leader. Watch the rhethoric, as Karl Rove once said, you keep repeating a lie and the public will eventually believe it. He knew how to sell garbage, just like Mr Cheney is doing now with his bs. Take care.
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@xfahctor (14118)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
30 Dec 09
Don't blame me, I voted for Baldwin.
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• United States
31 Dec 09
Can I blame you for your former voting record?
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@TLChimes (4822)
• United States
31 Dec 09
I want that as a bumper sticker.....
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@jb78000 (15139)
30 Dec 09
we all know everything is your fault
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@writersedge (22563)
• United States
31 Dec 09
Yes, it takes a lot, the two houses, the President, and sometimes the judices in the Supreme Court, too. That's what the checks and balances are supposed to be all about. Yes, some people are to blame for voting without knowing and some for not voting. So yes, there is plenty of blame to go around.
@TLChimes (4822)
• United States
1 Jan 10
Living in Detroit.... with a corrupt mayor and city council and school board.... My strongest feeling is that we should scrap the whole thing from the town and city level on up and demand a do over for each elected position but somehow I think I'm outta luck.
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@TLChimes (4822)
• United States
1 Jan 10
OUCH! Mine were just thieves, swines, and adulterers
@GardenGerty (160949)
• United States
31 Dec 09
What a refreshing and balanced view. I always have known that any one politician cannot be responsible for everything.
@GardenGerty (160949)
• United States
16 Feb 11
Hi, friend, I have not seen you in awhile, thanks for the best response. Hope all is going well for you.
@TLChimes (4822)
• United States
1 Jan 10
Some folks forget it and want to attack a single part of the system
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@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
31 Dec 09
Yes, there is plenty of blame to go around. We vote people into office then trust them to make good decisions. However, all too often we fall for slick promises they have no intention of keeping, don't read their views, don't challenge them when we catch them in a lie and worse yet, vote for them because they are attractive--no kidding, people do that!! So we have no one to blame but ourselves, the voters. This blaming of dems and repubs, the bickering and accusations, the whiny president are all because of the way we the people voted.
@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
1 Jan 10
But I am doing something, the trouble is that nobody else seems to be doing anything! I think about my vote, I vote for the person who is best for the job, I'll be voting out all the incumbents I can this year and I'm educating myself on the issues. If it wasn't unconstitutional, I would be all for restricting the vote to people who are property owners because at least they have something big to lose. This wouldn't work, of course, but it would narrow the voting pool to those who (for the most part) are financially responsible and somewhat educated enough to pay attention to issues and not empty promises.
@TLChimes (4822)
• United States
1 Jan 10
Yet we are also the ones complaining the most but doing nothing in the long run..... It's like the idiot who moves to the North and then complains that it's snowing....
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@TLChimes (4822)
• United States
1 Jan 10
I hear a lot of folks thinking just like you...... And planing their votes for the next round already...... kind of wish they had done that last time....
@celticeagle (168256)
• Boise, Idaho
31 Dec 09
I don't feel the present president is to blame for the recent terror attempt. I believe in the Bilderbergs and I believe they are to blame for what is happening in this country. We are strong and we have power but if we do nothing then the aristrocrats will take over and we will be doomed. Every president from the very beginning has delt with peeved countrymen. That won't change.
@celticeagle (168256)
• Boise, Idaho
2 Jan 10
I agree. And so much going on we are not fully aware of.
@TLChimes (4822)
• United States
1 Jan 10
I know.... but I listen to the current chatter from both sides and feel a little fear that the pendulum is swinging a bit to far either way and without enough balance to make for a good America.
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• India
19 Jan 10
b]Hello my friend TLChimes Ji,[/b] I think President has to think in country's benifits and do according to his wisdom. We all know, that it is a combined efforts, if he / she find helpless the resignation and withdrawing self is an open option. May God bless You and have a great time.
@artistry (4151)
• United States
31 Dec 09
..Hi TLChimes,I feel in the long run, what good does it do to blame any president, when they all, each one in their own way, depend on many factors to help run the country, protect the country and so on. We should hope and pray that we will be protected especially when traveling in planes and working in tall buildings that are hard to evacate quickly. We are living in perilous times and we are targeted as the bad guy, for what ever reason. To politicize on either side is to no avail. What Mr. Cheney does whenever he feels like it, is very close to being a traitor. Especially when 9/11 happened on his watch, and he wants to be such a hawk now, but refused to go to Vietnam five times, if I am correct. My sister and I were talking about the attempts to blow planes up and it is my thought is that there are so many ways that I could think up to get on a plane, and be destructive if I didn't care about dying, and was as crazed as they are, it is not funny. But it is going to take the Lord to protect us, if these crazy people want to do us harm, all the detectors in the world cannot stop the zealous, evil mindset of these extremists. Prayer and hope and wishing the people well, who are trying to stop them is so much better than pointing fingers. We also need more and better intelligence to find these people before they get to the end point. We are we, and they are not us. Take care and hope for a better New Year.
@TLChimes (4822)
• United States
1 Jan 10
I am very much hoping 2010 is a better year the world over.... I agree that the president has way too many unknown factors to deal with to be blamed as solely ruining a nation.