Oh My An Epidemic? What Shall I do?
@Hatley (163776)
Garden Grove, California
December 31, 2009 12:19pm CST
Does it seem to you that more and more people make their first discussion, I am new here and how do I make money? PLease tell me?'I finally got exasperated and said I am not going to tell you how, just going to tell you to click on mylot, and read all the
information for yourself. Now I ask you, am I too harsh? Should I have told them word for word all the ways you make money here? your take on this?
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@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
31 Dec 09
Hi Hatley, quite frankly I don't bother telling them anything anymore. They either argue and say you are wrong, or ask if they really really have to respond to their own discussions and if so will 3 words do. Then it will be deleted anyway. Of course you're not to harsh, you are very sweet.
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
2 Jan 10
thea I thought about just skipping too then wondered if you would mention going to the guidelines and reading all the info,maybe the person or persons would actually quit asking how to make money. anyway mylot should be more than that, I do use my earnings but I also have fun and talk to all mylot friends instead of being another couch potato downstairs in the activity
room. some sit there without moving for hours, now i have some programs I like but they do not watch them so I come up here and mylot.he he he.
@kimbers867 (2539)
• United States
31 Dec 09
I like your thinking meapas!
Happy New Year to you!
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
2 Jan 10
meapas as usual you make the best sense. yes a good many
are using English as a second language and I never refuse'
to help them, I can usually tell because of a few misspelled
'words or odd grammatical errors and I never fail to help as'
much as I can. I was a bit out of sorts anyway last night as I'
would so have loved to stay up to watch the old year out but I
have a roommate who finally let me stay up to ten,used to be
9,its so frustrating to lie in bed and not getting to sleep for several hours. anyway yes we all need to help each other really. right. hAppy New Year.
@meapas (2436)
• India
2 Jan 10
I understand your frustration of saying the same thing again and again. There are some students who frustrates teachers to no end and finally the teacher has to ask the student to shut up. But a good teacher like our Creator doesn't stop guiding their students.
Let us keep doing good because we are all answerable to God. Sometimes some of the newcomers find it very difficult to understand the language and so doesn't follow what the guidelines says.
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@zandi458 (28102)
• Malaysia
31 Dec 09
I really have no patient with people that can read and write yet trying to be ignorant. I don't even want to open the discussion if I happen to see these newbies with this subject. It is a waste of my time trying to spoon feed them as am sure they can familiarize themselves as they progress. You are doing the right thing .
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
2 Jan 10
hi zandi hope it paid off but I had hAd it. the information is all listed in the various spots and its not that hard to
read surely. I told them they would find everything they needed
to know how to make money.
@mysdianait (66009)
• Italy
31 Dec 09
There do seem indeed to be many more of them than previously asking the same question.
I promise myself that I am not going to answer any more of those discussions or that I am going to post the link to the myLot tab... but when Iopen the response box I get carried away every time
I can understand that you are fed up with seeing them just the same as I am too but... my patience has not run out run out yet
Do as you feel. The Terms/FAQs are there if they want to find them
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
2 Jan 10
hi diana well I doubt if I will always just tell them where to go'
to look it up,but this person did not even seem willing to try to
help him or herself. for one thing I can always tell if the person is a user who has English as a second language and I do
try to give these people more help as I know our English language'
is hsrd for so many to learn.Happy New Year Diana
@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
31 Dec 09
If they had read the guidelines as we are supposed to, they would know how to make money here! I do not think you were too harsh, I get tired of people asking questions they should know from reading the rules and terms of service. At least you told them how to find out!
I'm not so nice myself sometimes. When I see someone posting a referral link I often lose my temper and call them selfish and self-centered.
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@cynthiann (18602)
• Jamaica
31 Dec 09
Nope - I don't think so. But listen to other people as I am sliding down the slope tpo being depressed as it is the dreaded NYE.
Actually, I do not respond as I find it so irritating and what is worse is when I am asked to be a friend and they have never ever responded to any of my discussions
Happy New Year when it comes my friend
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@gabs8513 (48686)
• United Kingdom
7 Jan 10
Oh yes and I have started to ignore them now because there are the Guidelines and it is getting a bit much now as I see them every Day and I am fed up with explaining to them to read the Guidelines they will find their answers there
@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
7 Jan 10
hi gabs yes me too and wish they would realize how much good
'useful information the guidelines gives us all and the
frequently asked questions as well. the rules they are all there
for the reading.
@kimbers867 (2539)
• United States
31 Dec 09
I remember those days. I guess they are using it as an ice breaker.
What I try to do, when I have time, is answer new people's discussions or answer discussions that don't have any responses.
Happy New Year.
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@kimbers867 (2539)
• United States
31 Dec 09
I try to be kind, it doesn't to be like that. I just need to step up and start doing it more often.
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
2 Jan 10
hi kimbers Happy New Year to you and yours.yes kindness is never'
wasted as it always comes back two fold and you have shown
a very kind heart. I have tried to help others too and will'
again of course, just was tired, but I often go to those that have'no responses. i remember how upset I was as a newbie when I
got just a few responses than an older member here told me I'was
giving out best responses much too early and when I waited a week I had a lot of responses,so I was helped and I have helped others too that way.
@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
2 Jan 10
hi dawnald that is really what I did and after I read it I felt guilty as I usually just outline the comments,and responses, and discussions, tasks if they like and the photos etc etc. but I was tired then too my roomie was muttering as I was not going to bed eArly enough to suit her. I detest having to go to bed at ten if I am not sleepy; for heavens sakes one night in the year you would think she could have stayed up for it but no. wellone must get along with your roomie.Happy New Year Dawn at last its is new years day in California.he he.
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@firebirdlizant (514)
• United States
1 Jan 10
its an opening discussion for most newcomers. i remember i used it as well. its nice to see how many people are willing to help out. you dont see like you want to help. if this is so just ignore those thats all. or say your not sure. no not harsh but you could be a little more friendly. have a safe and happy new year. good luck in your descision.
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
2 Jan 10
firebird you do me a great injustice. Ihave Answered over and over and over these discussions and gave them explicit information, post comments, post responses, post your discussions, do tasks if you like and on and on. no I did want to help but this person was a fellowAmerican conversant in English with a good vocabulary and why could not he or she do what they should have done in the first place,did not mylot tellyou when you joined to read the guidelines, the rules, the questions and answers etc etc? surely you had to do this,I know I had to do that and I did not have to ask for a lot of help as I went back several times and reread them.No you are being unfair to me, I have done this almost everyday for two years here so the one time I tell them to look it up and where to look it up and even how to look it up, I do not want to help? what am I supposed to do,feed it to them with a spoon. i have been And am willing to help out but not whem people refuse to use the directions I took a long time to type out for them.
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@catdla1 (6005)
• United States
31 Dec 09
There are so many excellent discussions here, that depending on my mood, I may or may not respond to discussions like that. People who discover myLot by accident are probably more apt to poke around to see what the site is all about, therefore have a better idea of what is going on. Referals come because some one told them to, and maybe need a little more direction and TLC from us. I don't have a problem helping, but those discussions certainly don't need 20 or 30 responses. One or two is sufficient, so frequently I skip them.
Wouldn't it be nice if myLot had some sort of 'Welcome to MyLot' email sent to new members with a copy of the rules and some friendly information about enjoying the site and getting the most from it?
New members are always welcome here. Some will discover that it's just not their 'cup of tea', others will become our next best friends.
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@kimbers867 (2539)
• United States
31 Dec 09
Oh I agree a Welcome to myLot email would be a big help. Getting the people to read it is a whole different story.
Happy New Year!
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
2 Jan 10
suzzy3 yes I did help; I just did it in a little different'way aand they must read that information as its there for that
purpose, they can get help from friends if necessary but this user was an American so it was not a language thing at all. I have always been helpful here.
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
8 Jan 10
hi sussy I didn't mean to be so critical either. sorry.
@kprofgames (3091)
• United States
4 Jan 10
I don't think you are too harsh Hatley, you're honest. To be frank if they joined a site and have to 'ask' without doing any research from past discussions, reading the frequently asked questions or God forbid the guildlines, then to me, they are just being lazy.
So you aren' harsh, you're honest!
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
7 Jan 10
hi kprofgames glad to hear that. you would think they would
learn a few things before just blindly making a discussion
as as the rules about discussions. he he.
@angelsdaddy (84)
•
31 Dec 09
Hi, if it amkes you feel any better I havent done that and I have replied to the other newbies like me informing them that they need to read the FAQ and guidlines. I have noticed alot and I havent even been here that long! I am amazed that people dont bother they will get so much more out of the site if they did bother to do that!
@kimbers867 (2539)
• United States
31 Dec 09
Welcome to myLot Angelsdaddy! I have been around for about three years, and I might just go back and re-read them.
Happy New Year.
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@catdla1 (6005)
• United States
31 Dec 09
Welcome to myLot and you are absolutely right! There's more that what meets the eye here, and all of us were new and one time or another. The rules and guidelines are here to help us, not restrict us. Many of the rules at other sites are so convoluted that they aren't helpful at all. Once newbies give them a read, I think that most benefit from them. Happy New Year!
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@angelsdaddy (84)
•
31 Dec 09
I found that they were really helpful and although the rules and things were expained by my partner I still read them myself incase she missed anything as its easily done!
Happy new year!
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@cloudwatcher (6861)
• Australia
1 Jan 10
Hatley, I don't think you'd know HOW to be harsh! You bothered to open the discussion and to leave them instructions, which is more than many people will do.
I agree there seems to be an abundance of the "I'm new. Please help" discussions and quite possibly, some of them would be rather frustrated and not understand what to do, but many are just too lazy or out for a quick quid. I've answered a few who seem to fall into the former category and hope they were helped - but mostly I only have time to keep up with friends.
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
2 Jan 10
hi cloudwatcher I keep telling myself remember when you were new too but I did read the quidelines and I never had a discussion deleted, I did not get a lot of responses at first but after awhile I made friends and got plenty of responses. I also learned not to give out best responses too early thus I got more responders that way too. odd that they would not want to read the rules before starting a discussion.
@elitess (5070)
• Ipswich, England
2 Jan 10
Hello Hatley. I must say that explaining is one option, but you can always tell them to use the search function up there in the right and write "ways to earn on mylot". I have seen a tone of topics on this subject so their are bound to find at least some basic information about this.
I am guessing by now you are sick and tired of repeating the same thing about earning to each individual that asked you for guidance, but you could also direct them to the Mylot FAQ, right ?
Happy New Year !
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
7 Jan 10
hi elitess a happy New Year to you too. yes the frequently asked questions also can be a huge help and while there just read it
all. its there for reading and will help too.
@paula27661 (15811)
• Australia
3 Jan 10
I share your exasperation Hatley! It seems that some cannot be bothered reading the rules and find it easier to ask, I’ve told new members to read the guidelines carefully and all they want to know will be revealed. When I first joined I was guilty of not reading anything and having a discussion deleted; it was then I decided to check the do and don’ts and I learned a lot! What I find more annoying is that the reason some people are here is solely to make money and it comes through in the quality of their topics.
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@TLChimes (4822)
• United States
1 Jan 10
What I didn't learn from the guidelines and the FAQ, I learned from reading, watching, and posting. It may have taken a few but what I didn't understand, people were willing to help with so long as I showed that I had made the effort to learn for myself first.
When my mom joined she had a hard time fining her way around (still does) but only because she has trouble processing things.... I help her because I brought her here and as such it is my job to help.
You are not wrong for shooing away folks who won't try to learn the right way but I personally try to help those who seem to have followed the rules but just don't get it....
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
2 Jan 10
hi tlchimes I do that too when I see the person is really
trying but just did not comprehend something, as I was there
'once myself. I was too gung ho on giving out best responses
immediately and one of the older ones here told me to wait at'least a week to let any who may have been away have a
chance to respond. and my did my responses pick way up when I
did that. I cannot mention user names but she was really helpful
to me as I was really a newbie.
@Sandra1952 (6047)
• Spain
2 Jan 10
Hello, Hatley. I think we're all sick of this sort of thing. As you say, it seems to have reached epedemic proportions. Perhaps we can get an injection so we don't notice them any more!
Seriously, I think it would be a good idea if new members were not allowed to post their own discussions until they had responded to, say, 50 discussions with quality posts. Most people would manage that in two or three days, so it's no big deal. Too many of them just jump straight in starting discussions which we've all seen before, and we know will be deleted. The only way to learn is by example. Reading the guidelines is a must, of course, but if people see what a good discussion looks like, they're more likely to create their own. I spent my first two or three weeks on here responding before I put up a discussion of my own, and it was a valuable lesson for me.
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
7 Jan 10
hi sandra I did that too and it taught me so much, Ihad read the guideline and all but was a bit unsure so I responded and read the discussions and soon learned what went over and was popular, and what did not. it was as you say a valuable lesson to me.
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
3 Jan 10
I will admit that back when I started on here, one of the very first discussions that I started was much like that that you've described and I had one person answer that question for me. However, they did basically tell me to read the TOS. I read those before I started and I read over them several more times after I started and it helped me tremendously. I really think that reading the TOS is the most important thing that one can do to start making money here. Also, I think that the new people also need to realize that they aren't going to get rich quick by being here. As a matter of fact, they aren't going to get rich at all, but if they think the little bit of extra pocket change is nice, then this is a good community for them.
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
7 Jan 10
hi dorannmwin yes some think its going to really make them rich, but I am on here long enough that it does pay all but one or two dollars of my internet bill. but not everyone has that much time,since I am retired and do not hold down a job any longer.
but theres so much more to mylot than just earning, and Ihave'fun on here too, aNd I am always learning something.