Can atheism (non-belief in God) make the world a better place?

Psalm 14:2 "The fool says in his heart, there is no God."

Good analysis, Sudipta. Rather than taking a position of rigidity, if everybody can have the same simple vision YOU have, this world would have been much better place. Whatsoever is good for humanity from any quarters must be accepted. Agree with you.

You are that fool

"The fool says in his heart, there is no God." - Psalm 14:2

Its so wonderful as always, to read thru your comments and notes. This is something that pains me sometimes…the way people tend to segregate others into just believers and atheists, leaving no option for the spiritual. I would like to think of myself as spiritual in quest of the ultimate truth…I don’t believe in religion but I have not been able to bring myself to be a non-believer either. I’ve tried many times, but I just could not say with conviction that I don’t believe in God.

WOW what a FABULOUS post tulip! Very nicely put and I agree with what you said....

sudipta Its nice to hear from you after a long time. when we segregate humanity into believers and un-believers, it is worse than racism. when religions practice this, it is even more shameful act. to be a believer or to be a non-believer should be a personal choice. whatsoever is good should be accepted.

I didn't know much about "Scientology" - but since reading here, I decided to do some research on it, and it founder. Wow - what a fallacy and total deception ! It reminds me of the scripture where it says: some are ever learning, and never coming to the knowledge of the truth, and where it also says that some have 'exchanged the truth to believe a lie.' Scientology's teachings are just pure old confusion and a departure from the message of the gospel. Isn't it marvelous though - that we all DO have freedom of CHOICE in our beliefs? 'nuff said.

Dluther89 (21) - I'd be interested to hear where you got your information and proof of it, that "God never forgave Adam."

If a hormonal sin couldn't be forgiven, what are the chances that sins suggested by brains would fare any better. :) If anyway we cant be forgiven, why even bother. :)

Is this comment meant for me? I have given a very balanced and objective view here. I am a atheist myself. What I tried ,and obviously failed, to say was that morality has litte to do with belief in god or the lack of beleif in god,And that we could very possibly still keep fighting even in a god-less world. However, if you read between the line, I have laid more responsibility of the current sorry state of affairs on religion. Please read it again.

I must say the way you talk about atheists is offensive and insulting.You made them look like aggressive people who attack God and the beliefs the concept of religion comes with.If anything,it's the so called religious people who are agressive because they think they know it all and others are just stupid not to see ''the truth''.I saw a Moslim man few months back when I was all dressed up heading to a rock concert and he was with all the women who dressed in an outfit that you barely see their face.He looked at me like he hated me for dressing up the way I did.And he was a guest in the town. If hating people you don't know is your God's rules,then I'm definitely out.

Ravenladyj Its nice to see there are still good people are around for whom religion doesnt matter. what matters for them is the welfare of humanity. when people exchange ideas, share views these differences can be eliminated and a common meeting ground can be found. No One religion has all the truth. each had a glimpse of the truth from a particular angle. So is atheism. they too have a lot of good things to share and as a good human being we should accept those without any prejudice.

& the false profit still doesn't get it...

Matthew 24:9-11 Jesus said, " Then they shall deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and you shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake. And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another. And many false prophets shall rise, and deceive many."

Proverbs 23:9 " Speak not in the ears of a fool: for he will despise the wisdom of thy words." Friend, do not harden your heart.

Christians were persecuted during the dark ages. (By whom?) I know you will figure that out before you loss trust on Christianity.

God is 'not' religion, and religion is 'not' God. That is the major thing that causes so much trouble, and God gets blamed for all of the bad stuff that happens. Everything that God has done and created, is based out of His love for his creation, and that includes mankind. Not believing does NOT make Him go away or cease to exist. The true and living God does NOT tell you to kill people - a little tracing of historical facts, will show that - that is the true nature of Satan himself. He is the destroyer - not the true God. It is religion that wants to control your very existance and what you do and don't do - or else. One does not have to attend a church, but it is a good thing to find where you belong through prayer and looking to Him to guide you, and attend somewhere at least for the fellowship part of it. Just because you have been raised in a particular faith, doesn't mean that is where your place is where God is concerned. If where you attend, doesn't make you feel happy and peaceful for the most part, perhaps you need to consider changing, unless that is that God is dealing with something in your life, and you're running from Him. That will make you very unhappy - just deal with whatever, and go on. A lot will depend on one's attitude too. If you are gullible, you can be led astray, but if you are prideful and unteacheable, you'll get nowhere, and life will be very unhappy and full of strife. A "relationship" with God is the key - not following church traditions and rules. When you accept the sacrifice that He gave (Jesus Christ), and allow His love to flow into and out of your heart towards people - - that is the key. Spend quality time "in His presence." Most folks no nothing about that term, and the churches don't teach it either. It is all about 'you and God' - not you and religion or you and the church or the only and right belief. There is no perfect church or perfect belief system - only what you purpose to develope between you and God. Read His word, and learn of Him - when you pray don't treat Him like some kind of errand boy or santa clause. Seek to find out what HE wants from and for you. Our prayers are to be 'two way' conversations, and if we're doing all of the talking, how do we expect to hear Him speak? If you are not being led through life with peace, love and a desire to bless others, maybe you are following a religion, and not God. ????

Romans 1:21 " For even though they knew God, they did not honor Him as God or give thanks, but they became futile in their speculations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

Job 38:4 Declares the Lord, "Where were you when I laid the foundation of the earth? Tell me, if you have understanding? Who hath laid the measures thereof, if you knowest? or who hath stretch the line upon it? Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the cornerstone thereof; When the morning stars sang together, And all the sons of God shoouted for joy? Who shut the sea with doors, when it brake forth, as if it had issued out of the womb? when i made the cloud the garment thereof, and thick darkness a swaddlingband for it."

Friend, You may have quoted well Einstein statement about God during the time of his fame. (Whether it be unbelief or unbelief in God I will not argue.) However, I do hope that you also have read his last statement when he was about to die. For he declared God's existence. "God does not care about our mathematical difficulties, God integrates empirically. God does not play dice with the universe. I want to know God's thoughts." -Einstein

quoting someone whom you dont even understand doesnt prove you know about it. come out with what you experienced or understood. be true to yourself firs. we will deal with god later.

Proverbs 27:1 "Speak not in the ears of a fool: for he will despise the wisdom of thy words."

Yes, but this is what the Holy Scriptures says, " The fool says in his heart, there is no God." -Psalm 14:2

Romans 1:21 " For even though they knew God, they did not honor Him as God or give thanks, but they became futile in thier speculations, and their foolish heart was darkened."

Scientology was founded by Ron L. Hubbard. Please correct me if i am wrong. Hubbard was a science fiction author. The church of scientology got its set of beliefs from what Ron L. Hubbard wrote. One of the purpose of scientology is for its followers to become certain of thier spiritual existence and one's relationship to God. If you say that scientology is what you believe then you are not an atheist, because scientologist believe in God. I hope you will view this site scienceandgod.com, this site will tell you how science prove the existence of God. Foremost of all, i hope you will study also the Bible. Study also the Quran and other beliefs. In our search for the ONLY truth we should not only be subjective but also objective. Historical and not hysterical. If we are to live for 80 years then let us spend half of it, if not all, in finding for the sole truth. Other beliefs and founder of these beliefs never claimed to be the truth. What they did is to give some principles in life. There is only one who claim to be the Truth. That is the Lord Jesus Christ. When apostle Thomas asked him as to the way to Heaven, the LORD JESUS CHRIST answered, "I am the way, the truth and the life, no one comes to the Father except by me." - John 14:6 I will not force you to believe me, however, i just hope that you will truly give your best in finding the truth. The Holy Scripture in Psalm 14:2 says, " The LORD looks down from heaven on the entire human race; he looks to see if anyone is truly wise, if anyone seeks God."