What do you think of waterless or no-flush urinals?
By cianoy
@cianoy (513)
Philippines
January 9, 2010 9:48pm CST
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How Does a Waterless Urinal Work?
Piqued by curiosity because I mentioned waterless urinals in a recent post about urine as a fertilizer, I decided to find out how waterless urinals worked. It's amazingly simple apparently.
Once you pee into the urinal, the pee goes through a sealant liquid which is lighter than water. If you've ever seen a muti-layer candle, it's the same principle. The oil floats on water and it looks cool because you have flame over water.
Since the urine is denser than the sealant liquid (oil I believe), the urine goes straight through liquid and through the drain while this liquid stays on top. This effectively seals urine out preventing any bad smell from seeping back into the restroom. And there is absolutely no water waste. It's also cheaper than flush urinals because there's no flushing mechanism.
The best part of course and a major reason for this post is that each waterless urinal can save up to 40,000 gallons of water per year. You also just need to replace a filter a couple of times a year.
The only drawback is that waterless urinals don't remove the odor staining the surface of the urinals.
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@classicemcegy79 (152)
• United States
10 Jan 10
wow, this is very interesting, cianoy! Thank you for the excellent explanation!
I was wondering though, do you knw how they keep teh sealant liquid from draining out along with the water? I am very confused about this.
@cianoy (513)
• Philippines
10 Jan 10
I believe so. It's a little visual though. Let me try. Think of a U-shaped pipe. One is attached to the toilet, the other to the drain. That pipe is always filled with liquid. If you add more liquid, the excess goes to the drain. That excess will always be urine since the sealing liquid will always be on top. It's the heavier liquid that gets drained out.
@classicemcegy79 (152)
• United States
10 Jan 10
Oh, I get it! So all the waste will just sink down to the drain area?
I wonder how much they cost. Are they popular?
@cianoy (513)
• Philippines
11 Jan 10
From what material I read, there are definitely savings if you use a waterless urinal in terms of water used and maintenance. I think it is the economical choice.
Most of the malls here already have waterless urinals. I think there's a definite trend towards shifting to these types. The less water we waste, the better.
@beabenitez (153)
• Philippines
21 Jan 10
good post cianoy!!! its very informative, helps me a lot.
because i see a lot of them here in our place on nearby roads for emergency peeing of most men. what i felt is that it is so unsanitary since i didnt see any water used in it, now that i know how it works its kinda relieved me...truly what we dont know fear us or worry us. yeah that is excellent alternative for conventional toilet we are using to save water as long as we maintain it also to avoid foul smell... thanks for the post.
@oscarbartoni (2581)
• United States
12 Jan 10
Now if they could do something for the ladies so that they do not use as much water as they do. I think that if you do make one for the ladies then they will wash their hands more and minimize the saved water. Or they might even use more water washing than a flush would use.
@Klaus1 (1)
• United States
19 Jan 10
Hello,
Your description as to how waterless urinals work is essentially correct. Although different manufacturers produce slightly different models (meaning some details do vary from one product to another), your information is fundamentally accurate.
However, I would like to address the odor issue referenced. Our experience has been that odor problems associated with waterless urinals are unrelated to the urinal system and that they are actually caused by improper unit maintenance and cleaning, which can be easily rectified.
Generally, waterless urinals are cleaned in the same way as conventional urinals. Typically, a mild, properly diluted cleaner or disinfectant is misted onto the surface of the waterless urinal or onto a cleaning cloth; the area is then wiped clean.
Since waterless urinals are essentially dry, they actually tend to have fewer odor issues than traditional fixtures. This is because a lack of moisture inhibits the growth of bacteria- and it is bacteria that cause many of the odor problems associated with urinals. In fact, studies have shown that no-flush urinals have about the same-- and even less-- odor than conventional urinals.
Odors can also develop if the sealing liquid in the cartridge needs to be refilled. However, correcting this involves just pouring a bit more liquid into the cartridge which takes about 10 seconds.
But overall, whether they are waterless or conventional, when urinals experience odor problems, it is usually because they have not been maintained properly and that is as easy as adding the sealing liquid into the trap. This is why we ask our distributors to always make sure that their customers are thoroughly trained regarding how to clean and maintain their new waterless urinal system.
Klaus Reichardt, founder and managing partner of Waterless No-Flush Urinals
@cianoy (513)
• Philippines
20 Jan 10
I'm touched. This is your very first post in Mylot. ;-) Welcome.
Here's a question in my head. There's a sealing liquid right? If we pour this in your traditional toilet bowls, wouldn't it achieve the same thing? That we wouldn't need to flush the toilet bowl since the urine is effectively under the sealing liquid?