If you don't need a job, should you be looking for one right now?
By dragon54u
@dragon54u (31634)
United States
February 8, 2010 10:27am CST
I was thinking about this lately. I have an income from a settlement and it provides all my basic needs. I don't have much of a retirement account, although I funnel everything I can into it and have lost quite a bit of it in the last stock market crash. I would like to make as much extra money as I can so that I can afford to live on my own when I'm old.
There are so few jobs out there right now, though, that I feel guilty even looking for one. Moms and dads are desperate for a job that I might take--they need it while it's not necessary for me to have a job to survive. I've stopped looking for a job, at least for awhile.
Would you feel guilty taking a job you don't need to survive when there are other people that really need that job you just took?
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@phoenix8606 (4942)
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8 Feb 10
hi! If i don't need a job, because I have money enough I will not search for one in the time when there are many people, who are searching for a job, because they have kids to raise, bills to pay, and I think it will not be fair if I take some other person's job, just to "kill" some spare time, because I haven't got anything to so at home. It will be not fair at all!
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@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
8 Feb 10
You make a good point and those are my thoughts, too. I should get some volunteer work a couple of days a week. I think that will be my goal this week, to find a position to volunteer for.
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@tess5162 (66)
• United States
9 Feb 10
I personally would not feel bad. You still need to look out for yourself. Ask yourself this question. Can you make it the rest of your life on you're settlement? If the answer is NO then you shouldn't feel guilty about looking and getting a job. You dont want to wait till the last minute or when the money runs out before you find something and end up w/ no money coming in at all. there is nothing wrong with getting a job to save for your future and your kids future. Maybe you should start off with a part time job but dont feel bad about doing that.
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@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
9 Feb 10
Thank you for your encouragement. I think that right now I'll just look for a volunteer opportunity. I'm told that such service can often turn into real, paying work. And I'll be doing some good for my community. Right now, with my arthritis and back problems, there's no job that I can physically do. I need a clerical job, something I can sit down to do and there's nothing in this town except food service for the most part. Maybe things will pick up in the spring.
@mzz663 (2772)
• United States
8 Feb 10
I think if someone wanted a job bad enough, they would do what it took to get it and if you get yourself a job, you are just making a better life for yourself.
I wouldn't feel guilty about it because for one reason or another, if you happen to get a certain job the other person wasn't going to get it anyways.
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@mzz663 (2772)
• United States
9 Feb 10
I can understand your viewpoint on feeling guilty but if someone wanted that job, they would have been on it and already had the job. I know some people who would rather sit at home and whine that they are losing their house or car or something else and not do anything until it's too late anyways.
If I was in the position where I was losing something important to me I would take one of the first jobs I could get no matter what it was and not wait until I was sent a notice that I am going to lose it.
There is always someone looking for a job, if you don't take it, someone else will whether they really need the job or not, whether they are trying to keep a house, take care of their kids, better them self or a teenager wanting to buy a car.
If it's a job where it is going to keep you busy, not go stir crazy sitting at home and help you to better your life, I don't see why you shouldn't.
I'm in Ohio too, and yes, good paying jobs are scarce but they are out there if someone wants to look hard enough to find them. There is always something one can do to keep what they have, even if someone had to take two minimum wage, part time jobs at Mcdonald's. Where there is a will to survive, there is a way to go about doing it.
I am always looking for a better job, I'll take it!
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@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
8 Feb 10
If I have slightly better skills than another person I might get the job. But what if that other person was about to lose their apartment or house and if I hadn't applied they would get the job? That's what bothers me. Unemployment is very bad here. I get your point, though, and will give it some thought. Thanks!
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
8 Feb 10
hi dragon54u yes I think I too would be feeling really guilty if I took a job when I had enough to live on. I know how those who are looking and not getting jobs feel because my son is one of those looking and not getting. I am just sitting here day by day hoping he will soon get a job.
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@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
8 Feb 10
My sons are planning on my living with them in the future so it's not as if I'll need scads of money to live--I just prefer to live by myself. But if I take a job I don't need, I'm possibly putting a family out of their homes and onto the street. Right now, there are so few jobs that I don't feel right looking for one just so I can have more money.
I hope your son finds a job! Maybe he should look in another state? Arizona isn't doing so badly, or so I hear, and Texas is one of the states that hasn't been hit as hard by this depression as other states have.
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
8 Feb 10
I've never been in the position of not needing my job, so I've never thought about it from this angle. It probably wouldn't have occurred to me to feel guilty. But I do sort of in general feel guilty that I have a good job and other people don't...
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@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
8 Feb 10
Don't feel guilty about having a job, I hope it's a secure one that you will continue to enjoy. Some people, like me, didn't take advantage of education when they had the opportunity and some are just in the wrong place at the wrong time.
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@mentalward (14690)
• United States
8 Feb 10
Yep, I'd feel guilty. I have toyed with the idea of trying to get back into proofreading on a very small scale (no more than 10 hours a week) but decided that, since I do not need an income to survive, I'd rather let someone who truly needs the income to try for those jobs I would try for.
That thought came when I thought of my son who is still, desperately, looking for work, even part-time. There are former executives looking for work at McDonald's these days because jobs are so very scarce. No, I wouldn't want to take food out of the mouths of someone who desperately needs the income to feed their family or even just themselves.
@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
8 Feb 10
That's how I feel. On the other hand, I don't want to be a burden to my children. But 60 years ago aged parents weren't considered a burden and I've raised my sons to feel that way.
I hope your son can find work soon. Has he considered going out of state? Our part of the country has been slammed with everything bad about this depression. Texas is said to be doing well and has jobs.
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@mentalward (14690)
• United States
8 Feb 10
He's in Maryland right now. It's bad there, too, but not as bad as here in Virginia. Virginia is mainly an agricultural State while Maryland is an industrial State, with more jobs available. (Actually, Virginia is a Commonwealth. I never could figure that out.)
He has a friend who works in diesel mechanics and he's expressed an interest in doing that. He has experience in auto mechanics and body work and likes that kind of work; he says it gives him an artistic outlet when he takes a mangled piece of metal and works it back into a beautiful car. I think he likes the idea of diesel mechanics because it pays very well compared to the average auto mechanics.
He went to Maryland to spend the week with his friends (beginning with a Superbowl party, of course) and also look for work there. I hope he can find something, although this is a really BAD week to be looking for work! LOL
Actually, it might work to his advantage to be there right after this storm. Maybe some people will be fired for not showing up for work (using the snow as an excuse) and he'll be right there at the door. I'll be keeping my fingers crossed for him.
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@lingli_78 (12822)
• Australia
8 Feb 10
i get what you mean... i think i will feel a little bit guilty as well if i am taking a job which i don't really need and there are other people who need it more than me... but this is a hard world we are living and we have to struggle in order to survive... and at the moment, i just can't stop thanking God for providing me with a full-time job that really suits me well and make me really happy... take care and have a nice day...
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@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
8 Feb 10
God has indeed been good to you! I don't know how bad it is in Australia but it's awful here, there are thousands of applicants for each good job and hundreds for those not so good. I think I will seek out a volunteer opportunity for now.
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@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
8 Feb 10
Thank you! I think that for now I'll look for a volunteer position so I at least feel as if I'm useful.
@lelin1123 (15595)
• Puerto Rico
8 Feb 10
I guess if I apply for a job that I really don't need and its just to keep busy, meanwhile there are a bunch of other applicants for the same job yes I would feel guilty.
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@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
8 Feb 10
I'm no longer looking because of that, not even temporary work. I got called about another medical study and I might do that but I'm also going to look into volunteer work.
@millertime (1394)
• United States
8 Feb 10
I don't think I would feel guilty looking for a job. You never know what the situation is and it's impossible to say whether a job you got prevented someone that was in dire financial straights from getting it. Maybe that person wasn't qualified and wouldn't have gotten the job anyway. The way I look at it, if I get the job, I'm the best candidate and the most qualified. Anything beyond that is out of my control. You never know, maybe if the company hires me, I'll help grow the company and cause them to hire even more people.
If you make enough money to live on through other means, there is nothing wrong with not having a job though. It all depends on your personal feelings in the matter. I think if I had enough income to live on without having a job, I would look for other things to do, maybe even start my own small business. If it's successful, I might just have to hire some other people too! I would also devote more time to making money online. Maybe even go back to school to get my degree. I definitely wouldn't be lacking for things to do if I had the means to live without having a job. Good luck to you whatever you decide.
@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
9 Feb 10
I spend my days writing for money, doing surveys and other things. I think what I will do is find a volunteer position, do some good for the community until the job market gets better. Thanks for you input, love your user name!
@kaylachan (69714)
• Daytona Beach, Florida
9 Feb 10
Yeah I probably would. I can't live very long on savings. Hell I'm still tring to restablish savings which doesn't seem possible. I would like to allow my savings to grow and pack more away for that unexpected bill or bills. Of course I barely get by as it is and to me that's not good enough.
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@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
9 Feb 10
I know just how you feel. It's hard to build up savings! I had to pay an attorney to defend my income and there went $4,000 but thank God it was there! It's taken me months to build my account back up.
Try putting every spare cent aside, no matter if it's a small amount or not. By putting my myLot earnings directly in my savings account I made a lot of progress. I also do that with my writing money and survey money. Everything that comes to my paypal account goes directly into savings and now my savings are looking much better. Don't get discouraged, just save those little bits!
@ian1979 (47)
• Philippines
9 Feb 10
If you don't need a job then I guess you should give way to those who need it. Haven't you realize that you are blessed because you don't need a 9-5 job just to get by and support yourself. People who don't have much should be given a chance to have financial security so that they could provide for themselves and their families as well. Now, if you a spare change why don't you donate to charity? In that way you could help the needy..
@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
9 Feb 10
Ian1979, I've decided to look for a volunteer position and leave any job openings to people who are desperate for them. I donate a goodly amount each month to charity. Some would argue that I could use that money to save for retirement but I believe in sharing my blessings.
@Aaleexix (2290)
• India
8 Feb 10
Your discussion makes me think .... I am not a retired person. I can manage my basic need with my one hour labor. But I work hard. Now i want your suggestion. With out job how can I spend the time. And need are proportionate to the income. Have there any limits of want.
I feel happy to know that in your elderly age you get the necessary amount from settlement. And old days are rest period. So you should take rest if your body can't bear the pressure of job. But for younger one this is not right to stop working after fulfillment of the basic needs.
@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
8 Feb 10
You are young and should work as much as you can so that you can save money for your old age. Save money so that you don't have to get into debt when you need to buy something expensive such as furniture--it's better to pay cash! In your case, you're not taking from someone when you work because you're providing for yourself so you won't have to depend on others later. I wish you good luck!
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@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
8 Feb 10
I don't really have a lot of interests outside my house, I'm no longer able to do a lot of the things I used to enjoy like walking, biking and window shopping. I guess I'll look for some volunteer work to do, I'm sure there's a lot to choose from.
@GardenGerty (160665)
• United States
8 Feb 10
This helps solidify my intent to try to live on my home based earnings, although I would say that some of the people who are out of work are not able to do the things that I would do. I have scads of work from the friend you introduced me to, but he does not pay that well. I have found other writing work as well. I have nephews who have never really held a job, and they are having a rough time finding work. They cannot or will not do the things I do. I know your state has been really hard hit.
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@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
8 Feb 10
Yes, I know what you mean by the work not paying as well but what it does bring in helps a lot. I put it all in savings for the next inevitable disaster so I won't be trapped in credit card debt--I dread that possibility. The way people have used credit cards have nearly destroyed many lives.
Your nephews will have to learn that they can't be choosy when jobs are scarce. I've cleaned toilets and slopped out cattle stalls, driven a taxi and run parts for businesses. They will have to stop being picky--I hope they find jobs soon! It's rough when you don't have a job and no income.
Hey, I just went to your profile to get some idea of how you earn on the internet. I don't see any referral banners or anything. How do you do it?
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@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
17 Feb 10
If social security is still around by the time I retire, I won't get enough to survive on and will have to live with my children. My investments are doing poorly. But at least I have children that will welcome me. Many job seekers have children who are in danger of being hungry and that bothers me. However, in your position I would have looked for a job, too, and taken what I could get. I'm glad you have a job!
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@illfavors (590)
• United States
9 Feb 10
I was looking for a job part time outside the home because I am bored with what I am doing and would like to have a life outside of being in my house 24/7. Most people would jump at the chance to work at home, but I am ready to be out in the world again. I haven't had any luck though.
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@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
9 Feb 10
Me, too. After my divorce I kind of hid to heal and replenish my spirit. Now I'm ready to live again. Sometimes I go an entire week without verbally interacting with another human being. That's not good for me. The dogs love it, of course, but I do need to get out. Since I don't need a job to survive and others do, I'm going to look for a volunteer opportunity--as soon as we're done getting that 6-9" of snow that is falling right now!
@3SnuggleBunnies (16374)
• United States
17 Feb 10
I worked with a lady over the holiday whom I think felt the same as you. She has a full time job and we were talking that they were looking for help one night (@ her second job) & when I got my hubby up to clear it with him it was filled. She said she felt bad and would not of taken the hours if she knew I needed them. Wich sadly I do I'm scheduled typically 4-8 hrs a week & that's it.
Though I wonder if anyone at my work feels that way as well because for the majority of them they have my employer as their 2nd job. Whereas this is my only job & it's what has kept us afloat the past 18mo's even if just barely ya know. I'd love to work more but I cannot afford day care & most employers want you available according to their needs not what you can work. Wich is where I am thankful for my job I don't make much but they gave me a chance to help out my family and feel useful outside taking care of my kids.
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@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
17 Feb 10
I guess right now we have to be grateful for any crumb we can get. Even though you're not comfortable now, at least your children have you at home when they need you and that's a blessing for everyone. I wish I could stand and walk for long periods of time, then I could get a service-type job a few hours a week. I hope things improve for you and your family!
@shambhukumar (763)
• India
17 Feb 10
no if you are not in need of job then you should not look for a job. it is necessary to increase your skill. if you are very skilled person then job will run behind you. you need not to run behind the job. if you have very long future plan and you have money and concept then obviously you should do that one. job seekers are not good i think. they are totally dependent on others.
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@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
17 Feb 10
I agree and that needs to change. We've gone along for years just thinking the jobs will be there and now that they are not, we're hurting. One thing that contributes to this is the high cost of education, which many people can't afford. The average college graduate here finishes his or her education with an unbelievable amount of debt in student loans that sometimes takes more than a decade to repay.
@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
9 Feb 10
The job I was talking about was for me. After 55 years, I certainly know what life is like, the good and the bad. I think I will not look so that someone else can have a bit of good.
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