"Money can't buy happiness...?"- let me hear your voice...
By eekikit
@eekikit (87)
Philippines
6 responses
@ruperto (1552)
• Philippines
17 Feb 10
so true. It seems happiness is not about what we have, but what we feel about what we have. And what we feel about what we have changes. So it seems happiness derived from money will eventually decay...
It also seems that happiness can be about being able to do what we do. But as we know, whatever we can do now will eventually be undoable - because we age and eventually revert to pure spirit. So it seems happiness derived from our ability to do will eventually decay too.
It also seems that happiness can be about the good opinion of others about us - what we have and what we do. At some point, the happiness of being popular may disappear ... So it seems happiness derived from the good opinion of other people may also eventually disappear...
It's amazing that money can't buy permanent happiness, but it seems it can buy entertainment and amusement and even a false sense of security . Agree ?
@eekikit (87)
• Philippines
17 Feb 10
You hit the spot, bro. It's amazing how you separate happiness from fame and fortune. So we're both saying that happiness can't be bought, but earned, correct me if I'm wrong.
We're both also saying that certainly money can't buy buy happiness but surely it helps. It can buy entertainment and stuffs. We also need to conform to the formalities set by the world to continue living a normal life here on earth.
Well, I can say that you're a very specific and idealistic person, and I respect that.
Let's say that money is a "girl". We use her, we hold her with malicious intentions, and we leave her in exchange for a bigger money (say, girl with bigger boobies). She has been raped, kidnapped, killed, and even more horrific scenes.
Now, with that, you would agree on this one. That money has also come to hate us and will take her revenge...and destroy the world...LOL(exaggerated).
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@ruperto (1552)
• Philippines
18 Feb 10
interesting, Wayne Dyer suggests we view a person as an ego and a soul. As we know the ego is the "flesh and blood" so to speak. While the soul is the unchanging link to the realm of the spirit, of God if you will.
Perhaps there is true happiness for the ego but it is temporary ... i.e. just a lifetime. It seems money can buy this temporary happiness in all its "seeming splendor" (remember JC was tempted... but He rejected the offer ... it was not an apple for apple comparison: the material bounty and the spiritual bounty: one is temporary, the other is permanent)
It seems we're looking at permanent happiness. But we admit being young, there's an overload of everything. So it is easy to confuse temporary and permanent happiness. We are human and we all make mistakes. Perhaps the only mistake that we should not make is to stay addicted to temporary happiness i.e. to perish.
I agree, money can't buy permanent happiness. It can buy temporary happiness. But sometimes the temporary is way too engaging, for we are only human and it is probably fine.
Your interesting metaphor of a "girl as perceived by a man" seems to be well accepted. Because a man's ego will usually not survive without the companionship of a woman. It is perhaps on the shoulders of the women, of the mothers on the planet to make good the life prospects of the next generations. If a girl is causing destruction to a man's life, it's because there is a powerful invisible force in them that may have been lost or confused and desperately needs to be made right. I think that's a special task for the "concerned women" in her family (I hope they are there - 'coz they are always willing to help if one needs help)
Cheers
there's a saying: "Permanent happiness begins in this life when we offer, serve, understand, forgive and be kind. Ego-centeredness seems to be only entertaining and give temporary happiness."
@eekikit (87)
• Philippines
18 Feb 10
^^. cheers,
I don't know Wayne Dyer so I look him up over the net, I totally respect the guy, I mean, for his principles and stuff. He also has his own beliefs and I respect that.
"girl as perceived by man", haha, I only said "girl" but you dig it to whole higher level as "girl perceived by man".
If say, money is a girl, I agree to what you are saying that it is up to the people, to us how we perceive and use use it. It can destroy us, or it can save us and preserve our humanity for the next generations. -or did I misunderstand?
Life is ego + soul. Temporary happiness and permanent, two different types. But, we're dealing with the "ego" part here. I think, because happiness on the other side, I have not yet experienced that. But happiness here on earth, I have.
You're saying that the happiness in the real world is just for a lifetime and just temporary, but you can have true happiness in that temporary happiness. I learned something from that.
So therefore, we can agree that it is possible to equate money to true happiness. It all depends on us. And that's we, the people are good at, to experience happiness, or to experience false happiness. Then learn something from our experience.
@lelin1123 (15595)
• Puerto Rico
17 Feb 10
I don't believe for a minute that money nor material possessions can bring happiness. Happiness is within your soul and whether you have it or not. I know I can be content and happy just being with a person that makes me feel alive and worthy. I don't need the lastest gadget or the bigger house or the bigger tv to make me happy. What I could be happy about if I had the money to pay off my parents bills. That would make me happy because I was able to do something for someone else. Otherwise we have to remember we can't take money or possessions with us when we die. I know I will be happy without all this money and stuff once I get to heaven. So for that reason I know I don't need these things to make me happy. Happiness is what you do with your life that brings fulfullment from within your soul. Not material possessions or money.
@lelin1123 (15595)
• Puerto Rico
18 Feb 10
I wish I was 20 or 21 and know what I know now. However I'm 53 year female.
@eekikit (87)
• Philippines
18 Feb 10
Hey lin,
Now here is an example of a strong, yet kind of a Man, that live by principles and I will vote for if she run for President. Seriously, man.
You will agree with me when I say that what you're saying is that happiness does not make you fully happy, rather, money is just a tool to create happiness for others which in turn, makes you feel content and happy.
Let me guess your age, ok. Uhmmm, 20 or 21. Am I right?
I agree that indeed Man is greedy, one cannot be content, there is no upper limit to contentment when it comes to money and material things. So thus, I assume your saying that Man can never be happy when it comes to materialistic goals.
I also agree that Happiness = contentment, then happiness (much much greater thatn) money.
thank you for sharing your views, please let me know if you run for president. hehehe.
@primeaque86 (8108)
• Philippines
24 Feb 10
Hi Bro,
Well, hahaha, I am afraid at first to drop my opinion in here as I scroll down below...
Well, I would share my very own opinion without digging some 'facts' on the web.
Firstly, happiness maybe temporary or not. Did you ever heard someone ask you 'have you find your true happiness in life?'. Me, I am still mute on that matter, I am happy already though but I am not still sure that this happiness may last... but how about money? I have no enough money right this very moment, only for foods, short for bills sometimes hahaha.
Back to the very topic: Money can buy temporary happiness. A 'joy' in exchange for your money. But everything that is exchangeable with money would lost its value over time, and so the happiness you acquired.
Finally, the 'genuine smile and joy' of every person is not exchangeable with monitory value. Real happiness could be linked with any amount of Money. It comes from the heart and feels by the heart. Maybe, this is just too early for me to feel that. Only time can tell bro. I hope someday I could brag to you that I have already find the real one.
God bless.
@primeaque86 (8108)
• Philippines
24 Feb 10
Hi Bro,
Well, hahaha, I am afraid at first to drop my opinion in here as I scroll down below...
Well, I would share my very own opinion without digging some 'facts' on the web.
Firstly, happiness maybe temporary or not. Did you ever heard someone ask you 'have you find your true happiness in life?'. Me, I am still mute on that matter, I am happy already though but I am not still sure that this happiness may last... but how about money? I have no enough money right this very moment, only for foods, short for bills sometimes hahaha.
Back to the very topic: Money can buy temporary happiness. A 'joy' in exchange for your money. But everything that is exchangeable with money would lost its value over time, and so the happiness you acquired.
Finally, the 'genuine smile and joy' of every person is not exchangeable with monitory value. Real happiness could be linked with any amount of Money. It comes from the heart and feels by the heart. Maybe, this is just too early for me to feel that. Only time can tell bro. I hope someday I could brag to you that I have already find the real one.
God bless.
@donna22 (1116)
•
17 Feb 10
There are different levels of happiness. You can have plenty of money and be happy that you are able to pay the bills etc but unhappy that you do not have enough to buy expensive things. Then you can have someone who has enough money to treat themselves now and again. There are of course people who are extremley well off but are unhappy in other areas of their lives.
@eekikit (87)
• Philippines
18 Feb 10
Very muscular donna22,
hehehe, Sorry bout the greetings.
your opinion is quite different from ruperto, the first one on the list. He is looking at happiness as for the "ego" and for the "soul". You can read his comment if you want.
In engineering drawing, I can say that his is viewed from the top(top view) while yours is viewed from the front(front view). Both different views but the same subject and the same dimensions.
Anyways, are you saying that happiness depends on the amount of money you have? You're also saying though, that there are people who're plenty rich but still not happy. Please enlighten me.
@yresh12 (3212)
• Philippines
17 Feb 10
I read this somewhere.. MONEY can only buy material things not real happiness.
You maybe wondering why how we define real happiness, so I'm gonna define it the way I understood it. Real happiness that can give you love and joy with your love ones. Being with your love ones is the best and real thing that you could experience.