should we all be dna tested
By benny128
@benny128 (3615)
February 21, 2010 6:49am CST
hey all,
was having a discussion with my parents today so thought I would throw this topic out to the mylot community -
should we all be dna tested and the profile kept on record.
This would be able to aid crime detection, remains identification etc etc
should this happen at birth or not ??
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7 responses
@warmweatherwoman (2233)
• Atlantic City, New Jersey
21 Feb 10
Good question, unfortunelty a lil late...this has been happening for years in secret
@benny128 (3615)
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21 Feb 10
well here in uk its illegal to store dna profiles unless you have been convicted of a crime same as finger prints.
But I would love to have everybody tested and a dna profile stored and finger prints as it would be a lot safer crime wise.
Obviously there is the storage issue if the british goverment can't even keep the details of people claiming family tax credits safe then could they be trusted with dna but thats another issue.
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@warmweatherwoman (2233)
• Atlantic City, New Jersey
21 Feb 10
ahh but Benny...NOBODY said it was legal here either....As I said..its been done for years...since 70's I believe, by our government- IN SECRET- to keep track of us.
@xfahctor (14118)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
21 Feb 10
Absolutely not. No one who has any sense of personal civil liberty would even consider such a thing. This is just plain Orwellian. I don't believe such a thing would even be legal here in the U.S. or constitutional. The 4th amendment to our constitution forbids unwarranted searches and a DNA smple taken at birth and kept on file, especialy for the purpose of law enforcement would soundly qualify as an unwaranted search.
We are suposed to operate under the presumption of innocence in our legal system. By taking a DNA sample at birth and keeping it on file "just in case", it is making the presumption that one day this perspon might commit a crime, hence...presumption of potential guilt. The sacrifice in cost of liberty is not only not worth it, it is repulsive. This is the kind of thing police states do.
"Those who would trade their essential liberties for a little security, deserve neither liberty or security"
~Ben Franklin
@xfahctor (14118)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
21 Feb 10
"also at airports I don't hear a lot of people complaining about body scanners etc "
You will hear it over here from a LOT of folks, again, this kind of thing is repulsive to us. In fact, I refuse to fly anymore because of security measures now being taken...and since they implimeted "wandering" security checks, I won't even go in to an airport anymore.
I'm sorry, again, the cost in terms of liberty is far too great. Something like this would have been something my country's founders would have gone to war over and they would be rolling in their graves as it is to see some of the things we accept today in the name of "security". As horrible as this may sound to some, I would gladly die myself in a hundred 9/11 attacks before I would consider trading off my liberty to prevent one.
@jennybianca (12912)
• Australia
22 Feb 10
Well, I suspect there would be huge personal privacy issues if compulsory DNA testing came in at birth, let alone at all.
Personally, I wouldn't have any objection. It certainly has its benefits, in not only solving crimes but quite possibly preventing some crimes.
In addition, DNA records would help identify people killed in accidents or other trajedies.
I guess I would like to hear the other side of the argument, in that, could DNA records be used against us in any way?
It would certainly help the issue of some children not being sure who their fathers are.
@benny128 (3615)
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3 Mar 10
well to be honest I really don't think there is another side to dna testing and storage other than from people that worry their liberties would be infringed.
I personally think there is a massive need and would in the longer term save money and time.
Crime rates would drop as there would be a very high chance of being caught in crimes where DNA is left behind rapes etc etc
in the case of child maintenance both for men and women paternity could be proved.
Also body parts that are dug up could be identified in hours from DNA testing etc etc
yeah not all DNA is unique but that's say in the uk if i committed a crime and there was lets say 3 suspects with similar DNA then the police would have 3 suspects to question istead of every person in the uk could be a suspect saving time and money and increasing the detection rate.
Obviously DNA like it is now is not the only factor in deciding the guilt of somebody it would be used in conjunction with other evidence to safe guard againist innocent peoples DNA being at the crime scene.
@ladym33 (10979)
• United States
26 Feb 10
I think the way they do it now is good with the finger printing, since no 2 fingerprints are exactly a like, and now a lot of children are getting finger printed just in case they are kidnapped or something. But it might be wise to require all kids be fingerprinted. Also in the case of burn victims and such it might be too difficult to get dna but dental structures are good for determining who people are, they can always view dental records. Of course if people don't go to the dentist that might hard. I don't know DNA testing could be a good thing to use in conjunction with methods already used.
@benny128 (3615)
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3 Mar 10
yeah you are right no 2 fingerprints are the same but they can be very similar and to have a match in court they only need 12 points of that finger print to match.
With DNA testing it would be an exact match totally identical as opposed to only asking for 12 points to match.
I think unless people have something to hide then why not have their DNA taken and maybe finger prints and stored for life.
Not only for crime but even dental records are useless unless the jaw area is not damaged, and of course they have gone to the dentist.
@missybear (11391)
• United States
21 Feb 10
Very good question...I think it would be a great idea but very expensive to do.
It sure would make it easier to solve crime, again though I don't think it would be possible due to the outrages cost.
@benny128 (3615)
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3 Mar 10
the cost of dna testing is quite minimal at point of test hence when they do the heel test on a baby to measure blood sugar that same sample could be used for dna aswell.
The expensive bit is storing the information but that's no more expensive than storing the details they already have about each and every one of us.
Aslong as they can keep the details secure then it would not cost a lot of money to do this.
@MAllen400 (829)
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21 Feb 10
Hi I think that in an ideal world everyone should have a dna taken at birth. Growing up knowing that if you did anything wrong your dna was on record and that you would be caught straight away. That would bring crime to a near halt wouldnt it. We are not in an ideal world though and I think that there would be someone out there who would tamper with the tests etc and goodness knows what would happen to you as they would probably say guilty we have your dna and no there is no need to have it done again!
I think that if you have had your dna done (I hasten to say I have not) to aid a crime and you are innocent then you should have proof that all records of your dna should be destroyed. x