Keeping aloof from your loved one?

@ronaldinu (12422)
Malta
April 23, 2010 10:17am CST
This discussion is not another online romantic soap opera. I am talking about my ex headmaster who has retired just four years ago. He has a terminal illness and his wife has "banned" us to visit him. We were advised verbally about his medical condition to keep him in our prayers but warned not to visit him. He is currently in hospital and his days are counted. It seems that one of my colleagues took in charge to do a flower arrangement and took it to his ward. His wife called our school administration and our heads has informed us again not to visit him at all costs. The previous head seems to remember his happy times with us and after each visit that he receives, he ends up crying and is rather depressed. He was a father to us rather than being our head. He took great interest in our family problems and helped us all. He has the respect of most of us. Would you keep aloof from your loved one?
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@laglen (19759)
• United States
23 Apr 10
I think you should respect their wishes. Send a card and let him know how much you appreciated him. I am a very private person and would prefer to be alone when going through tough times. Say a prayer and stay home.
@ronaldinu (12422)
• Malta
23 Apr 10
I am a private person too. I am sensitive. So I think although I would appreciate friend's visits it would be an emotional meeting. But I think I would feel depressed too thinking and remembering about the good old times...I was not pleased that one of our colleagues did not respect the family's wishes.
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@laglen (19759)
• United States
23 Apr 10
I think it is awful. I am sure that your colleague had the best intentions, but we all know where that will take you!
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• United States
23 Apr 10
Yes I would stay away. If seeing you guys makes him depressed , then you Have to stay away. He knows you all love him. If you all were that close . nothing has changed. But it would be selfish to impose by trying to see him. Let him be.
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@ronaldinu (12422)
• Malta
24 Apr 10
Imposing myself on others would be the last thing to do. I do agree that respecting his wife's wishes is the best thing to do in this situation.
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@GardenGerty (160626)
• United States
23 Apr 10
Perhaps the concern is for the depression afterwards. If you have been warned twice, it is better not to go. I would let the wife know how much he meant to you. And I would send cards to the hospital with warm wishes. It also may be too tiring for him to have company at the hospital. You have to do what his wife wishes, I guess.
@ronaldinu (12422)
• Malta
24 Apr 10
I do agree with you In this circumstances I prefer to abide to his wife's request. She knows him best and she is living this situation and knows whats best for him
@eshaan (6188)
• India
26 Apr 10
ohh...it feels very bad in such situation...but sometimes its for the betterment of you or the other person...so you have to be away..such conditions come in life..where we can't stop emotionally but have to stop physically...
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@ronaldinu (12422)
• Malta
26 Apr 10
Hi eshaan yes I do sgree its a difficult situation. Although I do wish to visit him and let him know that I am there for him, the situation requires that I stay away from him since our presence was doing more harm than good.
@cream97 (29087)
• United States
23 Apr 10
Hi, ronaldinu. I am sorry to hear about your great friend, the headmaster. This is some terrible news to hear about. And it is even more terrible that you are unable to come and visit him while he is in the hospital. I don't understand why would his wife refuse you to come and visit him. Is it because him seeing you would have a great effect on him? I wished that you could see him because I know that you miss him and you want him to get well. I hope that he will be feeling much better very soon. It is hard for me to keep aloof from my loved ones. For a while, I may be able to do it, but then I will start to feel very sad all over again. I would have to see about them. I just can't stand another minute without seeing their face and knowing how they are doing. He is sad because he does not want you to see him ill like this. That is what is hurting him the most. I do hope that you are able to see him very soon. In the meantime, ask his wife if it is okay if you write him a letter, or send him a greeting card, or give him a gift that you know that he will enjoy. I hope that you all will be able to meet very soon. Take care.
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@ronaldinu (12422)
• Malta
23 Apr 10
Hi cream97, he was more like a father to us than our head. He respected each and every one of us. On his retirement he invited us to a dinner (about 90 persons staff) out of his own pocket. I can never ever have a head who was so humane as he was. I keep him in my prayers. I think his wife is so sensitive for him and hates to see him depressed.
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@ronaldinu (12422)
• Malta
24 Apr 10
Its a terminal cancer so unfortunately its a question of time. Life is so cruel. H has been enjoying retirement for only four years
@cream97 (29087)
• United States
23 Apr 10
Yes, I can see that he was more than a father to you and that what makes your love for him so special. You are like a son to him. I will also keep him in my prayers too, so that he can be back up and enjoying life once again. No one you love should suffer this much. Take care. His wife must be feeling very sad about now. I hope that she will not be sad for too long. I pray for her husband's full recovery.
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@nanajanet (4436)
• United States
23 Apr 10
I am sure that this is very hard but I believe that it may be his wish to be remembered as you knew him. Why not all of you write a lovely letter to him telling him what he meant to you in life and how much you miss him. That would surely be a wonderful gift to him. Adding photos would be nice, too.
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@ronaldinu (12422)
• Malta
24 Apr 10
Hi nanajanet. Nice to see you hear again. It seems quite a while since exchanged a few words. As a staff we sent him a get well card plus flowers. I thinkits hard for him to accept the fact that he is no longer the person that he used to be smart, alert, the person in charge. ...
• Canada
23 Apr 10
If I knew i was dying, I would want to see them all. I would not remain aloof from them. HOWEVER, I would make it a point that they be happy when they see me, that I don't wnt to deal with a bunch of sadness and platitudes, that our last bit of time together should be a happy time. If the guys from the Veterans club nextdoor, who are friends of my husband's, brought me a football, I'd think of the time we all watched the American Superbowl over there. If my friend Pam brought me a mocha latte from the coffee shop she owns, I'd remember all the time spent there. If they just came by and talked about happy times, it would make the end so much easier. I would not be depressed, they'd really cheer me up.
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@ronaldinu (12422)
• Malta
24 Apr 10
If I was your neighbour I would bring my laptop so that we can have a chat with you. It's hard to think about these moments.
@LittleMel (8742)
• Canada
23 Apr 10
I don't think I can be aloof to my loved one. I always miss him when he is away for hours so keeping aloof especially when he is sick, doesn't seem possible to me. his wife, well that's her choice not to let you in. but is it his choice though? he is the one that is dying so she is supposed to act on his behalf, not her own interest. I hope that's what she is doing. if your ex head was as you described, I can't see any reason why he wouldn't want to see any of you in his dying bed.
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@ronaldinu (12422)
• Malta
25 Apr 10
I think he would be pleased to see us all. Though I don't know if seeing us do him good or not. I do understand your point of view that you want to be close to your loved ones in such a difficult time.
@jillhill (37354)
• United States
23 Apr 10
No. I would embrace the final moments surrounded by people I love....
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@ronaldinu (12422)
• Malta
24 Apr 10
Hi Jillhill thanks for your feedback. I do agree what your opinion. Unfortunately after each visit our ex-boss is falling into tears and getting more and more depressed
@kun2349 (23381)
• Singapore
27 Apr 10
I guess nobody will want their loved ones to see them in pain or suffering.. Much as we wanna care and be right there for them, but in the eyes of those patients, they wanna leave happy memories, instead of a 'dying' expression.. True love comes from being able to distance themselves from their loved ones, and protecting them, from as much harm as possible ^_^
@ronaldinu (12422)
• Malta
27 Apr 10
Hi Kun yes sometimes loving somebody means setting someone free or loving him from a distance such as in this case.
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
23 Apr 10
hi ronaldinu oh thats really a hard one to answer as I can sort of see both sides so am not sure what to say, I would say go see him while you all can but his wife does not want that, but what then can you do? Could you talk to her and sort of promise not to tire him out and make her understand how much you all love him,maybe between you all and her you could come to some sort of agreement. This is so sad and I feel for all of you,no I would not keep aloof from my loved one.
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@ronaldinu (12422)
• Malta
25 Apr 10
I don't have any contact with his wife, though some of my colleagues do. I perceive that at first it was a recommendation not to visit but after that one of my ceolleagues did visit him just the same, it came like an order. A notice was issued to ll staff....
@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
26 Apr 10
If I were close to him, I think I'd try and ask him directly if that is really what he wishes. No disrespect to his wife, but maybe she's trying to protect him from something without his knowledge.
@ronaldinu (12422)
• Malta
26 Apr 10
I don't know how much does he know of his illness. He is not stupid and thats why he is feeling more depressed each time that we visit him. He is seeing his life going away....and he seems that he cannot do much about it.
• Philippines
27 Apr 10
hi ronald, have you tried reading the book tuesdays with morrie by mitch albom? its a very nice book that talks about a dying man and what he can still do to people who used to know and admire him in the remaining days of his life. very nice. it can be an inspiration to all of us when we reach the "almost end" of our lives. take care..
@ronaldinu (12422)
• Malta
27 Apr 10
hi alexysabelle, I have not read that book but I will keep a note of the title. I will make sure to read it before I have to pass from the eventual experience of crossing over the border
@rosey19 (951)
• Philippines
29 Apr 10
good luck and take care...
@saphrina (31551)
• South Africa
23 Apr 10
I won't do such a thing. It is rude and uncalled for. The least she can do, is let you all at least say goodbye. What is her problem, in any way? TATA.
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@ronaldinu (12422)
• Malta
24 Apr 10
I don't think its rude. She is being protective of her husband. If I was instead of her I might have reacted the same way. She does not want to see her husband falling into depression during his final days.
@gabs8513 (48686)
• United Kingdom
24 Apr 10
I guess it is his wish that you do not go to see him as he would want you all to remember him how he was before his Illness I think I would respect that and understand his reasons It is very rare to get a Headmaster like this these Days he must be a wonderful Man and I am sorry that he is this Ill
@ronaldinu (12422)
• Malta
25 Apr 10
Hi gabs8513, I do agree that it might be the case as you are stating. In this situation there is nothing else to do than to respect his or his wife]s wishes.
@Wizzywig (7847)
24 Apr 10
I am so very sorry to hear of this gentleman's illness & obviously, for his wife's distress. It is sad that the visits have had such an effect on him but I fear that one must respect his wishes. It may cause him upset to be seen in poor health by people who knew him as strong and respected. People become very aware of their dignity in such situations and would rather people remember them from better times. I can understand that you would wish to visit him but if you are confident that the wishes expressed are his own, then respecting them would be the right thing to do. I am sure that he and his wide are aware of the respect and affection you all have for him. It maybe that his wife will later be grateful for some support or practical help & that could be more beneficial than visiting the hospital at this time. I think it would depend on my relationship with the person concerned.If it was a close family member i would hope to be able to persuade them to see me but, otherwise I think I would let them have peace.
@ronaldinu (12422)
• Malta
25 Apr 10
Hi Wizzywig thanks for your detailed feedback. I am not close to his wife. Thus I do opt to respect her wishes. Ithink he might not like the idea of seeing him in a bad state and might wants us to remember him as he was in his old days ....
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@savypat (20216)
• United States
24 Apr 10
This happened to me when my Father was dying, his wife shut off all communication with him. To this day I do not know why, maybe he reqested it, he didn't want to have to deal with our emotions or for us to remember him dying? I did feel very badly about it, but have to just let it go.
@ronaldinu (12422)
• Malta
25 Apr 10
I am so sorry to hear that you have passed from the same experience. I can take it in my stride since he is only a colleague, but I don't know how I would handle it if he was my own real father.
@paula27661 (15811)
• Australia
26 Apr 10
In a situation like this it is the best to adhere to his wife’s wishes. If visits make him depressed it probably would not be a good idea. I would send him a letter along with some flowers or something to let him know my feelings for him but I would not deliver them in person. It is a very difficult time and I am so very sorry your dear friend is so sick. My thoughts and prayers are with you...
@ronaldinu (12422)
• Malta
26 Apr 10
Hi Paula27661, Thanks for your feedbck and sympathy. It's hard when you have to deal with such life experiences.
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