Quality = Quantity??
By edxcast
@edxcast (1168)
Ecuador
May 25, 2010 12:48pm CST
Hello fellow mylotters
Many new members tend to make discussions about how to make more money here on mylot. In general, the most experienced users tend to say you have to make quality posts (and some add post should be minimum 4 lines). In my opinion that is not quiet true. How do we measure quality? Does writing more would mean you are making a quality post? Wouldnt it be a "quantity" post? In my country thats called writing "lata" and i wouldnt say its a good thing.
What im trying to say is that in 2 lines i could say "more"(meaning more quality to a discussion) than in 5 lines, yet the 5 lines would mean more money to my account, right?
So tell me what do you think? the quality of a post depends solely on the quantity? In my opinion no, but writing a longer discussion, increases the chances of making a quality post, yet to answer the newbies question, i think you should write "quantity" posts.
Cheers
edxcast
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15 responses
@Asthazar (103)
• Romania
25 May 10
It's not quite as easy as you might think. What you say implies either a program that can read and decide how much quality resides within a post, or several dozen MyLot admins reading every single comment and deciding how much credit it would get. The first option is out of the question, since a computer cannot decide such things, and the second one is expensive for the owner. You can let the community decide exactly how much quality a post contains by adding different levels of rating each post, however that would lead to "good friends" rating themselves to the max for who knows how many lines, or for who knows what answers similar to "Indeed." or stuff like that. There is basically no way of properly crediting people for discussions.
My second suggestion is the only plausible one I can think of that can actually work, but I'm not sure someone would pay people to read and rate comments... then again, we do have MyLot that pays for posting... who knows, right?
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@edxcast (1168)
• Ecuador
25 May 10
Hi Asthazar
The first option as you said its impossible, i think the second, though possible, its way too complicated, and i think this goes with the question of how mylot works, which we dont truly know. Rating as you are saying is not the best option, since "good friends" would rate it despite the discussion is good or not.
The point of this discussion is to answer the newbie question, quality doesnt mean quantity, but more quantity would give you more money or at least thats how i see it. Anyway worrying too much about the money wouldnt be the best way to deal with mylot.
@Asthazar (103)
• Romania
25 May 10
Indeed. :P All I'm worried about right now is not making friends around here. :P I'm not exactly sure how to do this...
In any case, you are right in saying that quality isn't quantity, no doubts there. And I'm not sure, but i believe quantity is indeed what earns you cash here, because I don't know how else people measure quality here, if not by quantity. These being said, MyLot could simply change the words between them, but then the idea of the site would die. By what they say about how posts should look, they merely encourage people to make quality posts, since they can't really control this aspect. The best they can do is check discussions every now and then and simply ban people that get paid for going around the idea of the site by using quantity as a replacement for quality.
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@cbjones (1147)
• United States
25 May 10
I think quality lies in the details. If an answer can be given with a one liner, it's quality if it's correct. Adding a little extra meat to a response of discussion is always good though.
It gives people room to respond, and may even inspire them to share their views as well. When someone leaves a reply along the lines of "I like that too.", it leaves a lot to be desired. Why not go into why you feel that way? Sure limited communication in any medium just tends to leave people with a sense of emptiness after the exchange.
I never understood why people wouldn't be more open to share their views in online communities. Flooding the place with quick posts will only lead to a tsunami of "Why?" questions, asking you to elaborate on your thoughts. Doing that on myLot of all places seems counter productive. Making quality posts will yield better results than typing 4 word responses a few dozen times a day.
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@edxcast (1168)
• Ecuador
26 May 10
Well as i said, quantity could increase the chances of quality, yet one doesnt mean the other one.
Even if they say only one line, you can ask them what you want and theorically they should answer the "why?" and that way the sense of emptiness should disappear. Of course the problem lies in if this person would answer back. But well in defense of this persons, mylot doesnt tell you if the person answer you back(what i mean if you respond this, i wouldnt know unless i visit the discussion again, i think it would be easier if it would be sent to my mail).
You are right, and maybe thats how mylot works, for example writing 10 lines in a single post gives you more than writing 10 lines on 10 discussions, but understanding fully how mylot works is something very hard to decipher and probably would never know.
@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
25 May 10
edxcast You hardly ever can make a really interesting and easy to understand discussion in just two lines,you flesh it out and you will
get more responses as we will understand what you meant and can respond.I know that two lines pays very little and a lot of times it is written in haste and a lot of those get no answers at all. a good discussion has to make sense if the poster wants us to read and reply to it. quality has to do with us being able to understand the discussion and more words usually will do that.
@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
28 May 10
mylot admins themselves suggest four lines we are talking quality as in four intelligent lines not puff not stupid Quantity that mylot is talking about is making ten two line discussions that are absolutely nonsense, there is nothing to reply to, thats the quantity that they were talking about has nothing to do with using enough intellgent lines and words to make us understand the discussion.,
@edxcast (1168)
• Ecuador
27 May 10
Hmm maybe not a discussion, but a response can be perfectly answered in two lines, and be more significant than 5 lines of non-sense. More words can do it, you are correct, as i said if you write more there are more chances of getting a better(quality) response yet one doesnt come with the other, quantity is not equal to quality.
@edxcast (1168)
• Ecuador
29 May 10
I think we are still talking about different matters(in a way). As i said, discussion is not the same than a response, when you start a discussion, yuo are proposing a theme and obviously you need to elaborate it and as you said its impossible to do it in two lines. A response is different because, well, you are just responding and it can perfectly be an answer of two lines and be a quality one(two lines its just an example, lets take a 4 lines vs 7 lines if you like it better). The 4 lines could be of more quality than the 7 lines, yet 4 lines would represent less money(so again when experienced users says to newbies, quality posts, to earn more money, we should say "quantity" post)?
Pd: Hatley, maybe im taking it the wrong way, but please relax im not attacking you or something
@chulce (1537)
• United States
25 May 10
You know you make a valid point. If you read the information it does state that you should have a minimum of 4 sentences. Okay, so if I were to write; "Hi how are ya?" 4 times, does that count. Do they believe that would be a quality discussion?
It is interesting when you think about how we as individuals validate quantity and quality.
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@lakerfanster (2577)
•
26 May 10
When I am on this topic my view is Quantity of Quality is the most important.
@sleepylittlerose (1648)
• United States
25 May 10
I think many of us that say quality vs quantity mean that they need to write more on one response and elaborate on what they are saying versus starting a bunch of nonsense post that are single liners that they never send follow up responses to.
Certainly you can make a good quality post in a couple of lines posting a complete thought with some elaboration. But on the other hand someone could post 5 lines that are completely off subject and that make no sense at all.
We encourage quality so that their rating is higher and that they will be a respected member here on myLot.
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@edxcast (1168)
• Ecuador
26 May 10
Well most posts i have read about how to earn money doesnt specify posts should be more elaborate, well maybe because they are not quality posts(ironic thing, right ). But still, does 5 lines of a bunch of nonsense should represent less (if we are talking about money) than 5 lines of a very well done post.
"We encourage quality so that their rating is higher and that they will be a respected member here on myLot."
Well then we are talking about different things, a quality post would mean respect, while a quantity post(indifferent of its quality) should represent $$, and that would be the answer to the question of the new ones.
@edxcast (1168)
• Ecuador
29 May 10
I dont know if that would work. Suppose you are really good friend with someone in here, and that someone made a one line discussion. Suppose you decide to be a "good friend" and rate it positive. You will give this person an extra cash for something him dont deserve. It would be hard to control it, if it would work that way (well we dont really know how mylot works, so all of this is just theories).
About the respecting members, im sorry but i dont agree with you. When i respond to a discussion is because the discussion has attracted me in some way. Checking the user rating shouldnt represent something and i dont think its fair we dont respond to this discussion just because their rating is low.
@sleepylittlerose (1648)
• United States
26 May 10
As far as 5 lines of nonsense representing less than 5 lines of a quality post, only the people that handle the site would really know. But I would venture this to be a big yes. The ratings of others may venture into the picture.
And as for talking about respecting members that have a higher rating, those are not two seperate issues. I know that when I open a post that is of lower quality and the member is rated lower than many of us who have been posting for a while will not respond to their post. Therefore they will not have the opportunity for a response post, directly affecting their earnings as each person is paid for what they do.
@kaka135 (14931)
• Malaysia
26 May 10
Well, I think it's difficult for a system to judge the quality, as it's quite subjective. Unless mylot hires some people to read all the posts (which is impossible!), otherwise the system has to judge the post based on the quantity, i.e. the length of the post. Like what others said, too short reply is usually not a quality post, as it's not easy to express your opinion in just a few words.
Also, mylot has a feature which is for the discussion starter to mark the best response. This is to let the discussion starter which post carries the most values, in a way of judging the quality of the post.
@edxcast (1168)
• Ecuador
28 May 10
HI kaka135
If mylot would hire someone, quality would depend of this person opinion, as you said quality is quite subjective. In my opinion quality depends on the eye of the beholder.
What you are saying is opposing many things that i had understood of mylot, that is: best response doesnt mean money, nor positive rating (i thought this were for a reputation matter), but well we cant know for sure.
@beaniefanatic13 (5076)
• Grand Junction, Colorado
26 May 10
My personal opinion on this topic is, that mylot wants discussions started and for us to respond to them if we have something to add to the discussion. What makes a discussion=the exchanging of ideas back and forth, or questions and responses. So I deduce from this that if you start a discussion with some length that gives details it allows a person to come in with a response, the longer the response, the better able someone can come along and comment. When multiple mylotters are commenting back and forth in a response box, you now have a discussion going, which equals more money for all participating.
So think about it a discussion is started that is 2 sentences, not much meat there, so comments generally will be short and not enough meat in the discussion or the response to actually get a discussion going back and forth. I hope this makes sense.
So to the new mylotters out there if you start a discussion and get responses try and go back and comment to your responders and get a discussion going and you may be pleasantly surprised to see your earnings going up. The comments get smaller but the discussion continues.
As always just my 2 cents worth!!!
@edxcast (1168)
• Ecuador
28 May 10
Yep, i havent said anything different of what you said. I believe that if a response have more quantity, there are more chances that quality exist, yet the first want doesnt mean the second is going to happen. A discussion may be different than a response(and thats what i meant with the 2 line thing), you can have a quality response with just 2 lines, a discussion is more difficult to make it good in two lines(proposing a theme is always harder than just responding).
@edxcast (1168)
• Ecuador
25 May 10
Hi danoluma
With all due respect, your post isnt too much about quality(nor quantity). What is quality? and who define quality? Writing a lot is quality? I dont think so. I think its very hard for us to understand how mylot truly works. Anyway one of the points of this discussion is to answer the newbie question how to earn more money on mylot? It seems quantity is the answer or thats the way i see it.
@sender621 (14893)
• United States
26 May 10
The quality of the discussion and posy has to come first. A lot of posts are pointless if they have no meaning behind them. The quality must outweigh the quantity to be of the greatest value.
@frontvisions101 (16043)
• Philippines
25 May 10
I don't really know how they measure quality in our posts. I just post whatever i think is right. I read discussions and then i try to understand it then i post everything i know about a topic. Sometimes i search the net about the discussion first then i post it.
@edxcast (1168)
• Ecuador
27 May 10
That is exactly what we all should do, i totally agree with what you have said. This is what i could say is a quality post, three lines were enough to say a lot, and to make yourself clear, yet i believe(could be wrong) some will earn more than you(as i said not that we should worry about this, but just for the sake of answering the question "how to earn more money?").
@atv818 (1980)
• United Arab Emirates
25 May 10
Wow! Good point there! Quality is definitely not equal to quantity. One can make a direct to the point statement in less than 5 sentences. I guess what admin is trying to do here by asking 5 sentences as minimum post is to discourage MyLotters from typing few sentences without making any sense. Oh well! Since this is their site, might as well follow what they ask. Besides, it will help you elaborate more with your responses.
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@topffer (42156)
• France
25 May 10
I don't think you are totally right, edxcast. Indeed, writing "lata" does not mean quality, and sometimes it is exactly the contrary. You can have more impact with two words than with ten lines . There is a category of myLot members knowing that perfectly : the taggers -- I don't want to call them "trolls" : tags may be humorous --. Any member can tag a discussion, and some are not doing anything else. They don't earn anything here, but they mark like that their interest to myLot, and tags are important when you search a discussion.
MyLot has more than 200000 members, how many are starting a discussion or responding daily : 1%, 2%, ? And in that number how many old -- let's say with more than 5000 posts -- members ? They are rare ! A casual observer can see two different strategies among them, that we are not supposed to discuss here. One is prolix with new members, and the other less wordy, but both are payed each month : length of a response is not the only parameter.
Happy myLotting.
@edxcast (1168)
• Ecuador
27 May 10
Hmm yeah, but the answer we(with we i mean more experienced members) give to the new ones always is write "quality" posts, yet we dont define quality and give an idea than quality is the same as quantity(some add the minimum 4 lines thing that has nothing to do with quality).
@liftyouup (86)
• Philippines
26 May 10
Good day mylotter,
I understand,there are instances that we can explain our view,idea and knowledge in a few line much clearer and better.
but mylot requires that our response should be descriptive as possible..meaning to say in my opinion;our views,idea and knowledge on a particular subject should be express the whole detail if not to be substantive in facts..
And of course response should be related to the discussion.Otherwise,it will have no essence,even the response is long.
Quality + quantity is BETTER..
@zralte (4178)
• India
25 May 10
I agree and disagree at the same time. 4 lines of gibberish probably will not make you much. I agree that you can say 'more' in 2 lines than 5 lines. True. But what if the 5 lines are not really understandable or even the two lines. That is where quality comes in. It is not a matter of how many lines you have posted, though the longer you make it to make your points clearer the better.
The truth is, you have to make yourself clear. You need to get yourself be understood in what you are trying to say and it has to be about the topic. You can go on and on about how the world is round and not flat for pages and pages. That will not get you any credits if you post it under ...hm....'My bf/gf is cheating me'.
That is where quality comes in. Just saying you are right or I agree, or I disagree, does not make a discussion. You have to say something about the discussion and make your own points which ever way you feel to make it quality. Sorry for my gibberish. As you can probably deduce, I am not much of a writer.
@edxcast (1168)
• Ecuador
25 May 10
Well i havent talked about how the world is round and not flat in a "my bf/gf is cheating on me" discussion, so i dont know if it would represent no credit as you say. I would assume it does gives you money, unless someone report your post. I could try to do that and see what happens.
Hmm the question remains, who judges the quality of each and every post? and to answer the new ones, the 5 lines would mean more money, so the answer to how to make money here on mylot, is... to write gibberish?
Dont worry im not a writer either, in fact english is not my first language so probably i have a lot of mistakes.