Are not discussions for discussing pros and cons? why so afraid to comment?
@Hatley (163776)
Garden Grove, California
June 1, 2010 9:15pm CST
I have seen several discussions where so many say they do not answer
or respond to a lot of discussions as they disagree with the poster.'
now I ask you fellow mylotters must we always agree with everything
and be really honest with ourselves? I personally do not get upset if
someone says I see that a different way,I think otherwise or words to
that effect. we adults certainly can give our cons without being insulting and I really welcome other peoples ideas as it shows we are
having a real valid discussion. I think a lot of others may feel the same way.I often disagree with my best friend Nelda but do it with respect and love and affection. we cannot always all agree on everthing. your views please.
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@paula27661 (15811)
• Australia
2 Jun 10
It is healthy to disagree sometimes and the most important words in your post are love and respect. We can respect the other person and his or her opinion while not agreeing with it! I don’t avoid discussions that I disagree with; I just like to share my view in a civil and polite manner and hope others do the same!
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
2 Jun 10
hi paula and kalav55 you are both so right, and most people on mylot
are respectful and loving, a few just do not get it that you can disagree with someone with out insulting their opinion.they think that to disagree is to be rude and hurtful,thats just so silly.
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@GardenGerty (160949)
• United States
2 Jun 10
That is the key, respect. Since I am here for fun more or less, as well as the earnings, I skip discussions where people are disrespectful and hurting each other. I like discussions where we can help each other out. Some subjects we will never resolve,no matter how much we discuss them.
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
2 Jun 10
hi gardengerty yes that is the point to respect each other, and say perhaps I am going to agree to disagree with you.I think blah blah instead.but that is just my opinion. this makes me feel that we are
really discussing an issue and getting different view points.too sometimes I may be wrong in my view point and someone might actually teach me something I did not really know. I am the same way I will not
respond to a discuss where every one is being really rude, and I have seen several in politics and I just bypassed them. no need to get in the middle of a flaming war.
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@kalav56 (11464)
• India
2 Jun 10
Hatley! We definitely cannot have similar view points on everything and it is the different responses and different thought processes that make a real discussion.However,I also agree that I do not respond to many discussions. WHile my time here is restricted to my convenience , I also would not air my opinions on some topics, where I have a firm opinion .There are so many different aspects , cultural differences, differences in styles of living , and many many more.I feel I may not be right in expressing a view point purely from my stance. It may hurt the other person.
On the other hand if it is a friend whom I know and can relate to very well, then irrespective of cultural or other differences in thinking processes , I do share my experiences and thoughts.Here the understanding and good feeling never change and for me this camraderie is very very important.
Another colour in your avataar??
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
2 Jun 10
hi kalav56 yes and that's heartening to see. We all come from different places and that's so lovely so we allhave varying viewpoints and that makes life more interesting to
me and it makes mylot unique from other social places. and I think as
a rule we are more kind and courteous to each other even when we do
agree to disagree. oh yes I got tired of the other avatar but think]i will keep this one. I have a lot of graphics I made but sadly half of them are in tif which mylot will not accept so I must use my jep files instead. someday I will make some new ones if I can pry myself off my lot for awhile.
@moondancer (7431)
• United States
2 Jun 10
I think we can all respectfully agree to disagree when the mind takes a turn to do so. This is why we talk things out and get different opinions on things.
This is a discussion forum, so we discuss the pros and cons, the likes and dislikes, the agreements and disagreements.
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
2 Jun 10
hi moondancer that's it we can really respect each other and still differ, we just can say,this is only my own opinion, and i do respect yours]or some short version of that. this is a discussion forum after all and ]who knows when I make a discussion and someone offers a different opinion maybe i will learn something and maybe I too may see this in a new light.I love to learn new things every day.
@celticeagle (168256)
• Boise, Idaho
2 Jun 10
So many people don't want to make any waves. Heaven forbid they should have their own opinion. And sine can't help but be insulting and don't care about others feelings. If we all lived by the Golden Rule what a lovely world it would be. We really need alittle oposition and difference to make for an interesting world. If we all agreed on everything it would be so boring. These people that are afrad to comment just need to grow up and join the real world! Life is short!
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
2 Jun 10
hi celticeagle I do wish we could give more than one best response as I have seen yours and one other and am stuck. anyway thats so true, and on some of my own discussions I have seen five or six just sort of parrot what I said to the point that I wonderedif they even read it. I think there are times when you can almost see someone think one thing but write down what they think is polite.If we all agreed it would be a really dull dullwold. life is too short to be hypercritical.if you disagree with something say so but be civil with it.
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@Jotomy (6322)
• India
2 Jun 10
Hi hatley, insulting others is not in my dictionary, if other insulted me i will just leave it to them and i will say thanks also for that because it is their opinion. It is their style of thinking, whether to agree or disagree it is upto us. I will post my comments with what i have an opinion. So everyone have their own opinions to post or discuss or to comment. We may get upset sometimes with the responses but we must be sportive.
Hatley how is your health now.
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
8 Jun 10
hi Jotomy I responded to another discussion yesterday about the word refuge and yes like she stated, I also find that to me mylot is
my refuge from the outer world at times and find so much kindness'and support from all mylot friends, then I can smile again. everything is
okay.
@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
2 Jun 10
hi jotomy would you believe its a w arm sunny day here In ca and I have a head cold,went all winter no sniffles.well I am just feeling stuffed up but i will live for sure. I am the same way andwhen I respond to someone's discussion I may not agree but i will be courteous and state that this is just my own opinion and I do respect yours. yes we must be supportive as that is what makes mylot run really smooth for the most part.
@Polly1 (12645)
• United States
2 Jun 10
I totally agree with you, hehe. Like you said a discussion is different points of view, some might disagree or have oher opinions, but as aduls we should all be able to give our opinion respecfully. Hatley your a gem, you have a way with words, you have so much wisdom. I have read some of your post when your opinion is different, your not afaid to speak your mind. I think lots of us mylotters look up to you, including me. I'm going to be gone a week, my mom and I are going to Virginia to visit my sis and her family. Take care and I will see you when I get back.
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
2 Jun 10
hi Polly1 have a great vacation and relax. There is no reason
why someone cannot be honest and still respectfull at the same
time. it is not that hard to do. Maybe like I really disagree
with you on that, but know this is just my own opinion.I do
respect your viewpoint too but this is what I think.As we
are all grownups we can respect while disagreeing at times.
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@ElicBxn (63643)
• United States
2 Jun 10
I agree that we shouldn't be afraid to disagree with someone.
However, I can also understand a person who is fearful of it because they've been rejected or hurt because they did so.
It can be hard to want to disagree when you have been hurt in the past by doing so
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@Opal26 (17679)
• United States
2 Jun 10
Hi Hatley! The purpose of a "discussion" is exactly that! We are
supposed to be able to give our "opinions", meaning we don't
necessarily have to agree with the poster, but we should, if
we are disagreeing do it with respect at least! I think that is
the problem! When there are those that DO DISAGREE they tend to
get carried away and end up being insulting and unkind! That is
not the purpose of a true discussion! We, of course, can't always
agree! As you said, even with a "best friend" we disagree! Me
and my "supposed best friend" (she thinks we are still best
friends, I don't) disagree more often than not, (and not very
civilly, hence why I don't consider her a "best friend")another
story! Anyway, if you need to disagree in a discussion that is
fine as long as you keep it civil and polite and most of all
respectful to the poster! I don't think that everyone actually
understands that Hatley, which may be part of the problem!
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
2 Jun 10
hi opal thats what I thought too that a discussion shoule bring out different viewpoints done civilly of course and with respect but
with complete sincerity and honesty. If I am asked in a discussion
on smoking if I think its good for your or bad I am going to give
myown opinion but with respect and civility.If the poster dislikes
my honest and respectful opinion then I wonder why he or she even
bothered to make the discussion.
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@bodhisatya (2384)
• India
2 Jun 10
Hi Hatley,
Certainly we can never agree to all the things what others say/ think. Now, I must say that not all are as wise as you. Some people really take it as an offence if someone tend to disagree but it also depends on how we put on our point and what kind of discussion we are talking about.
if we don't speak our mind and if we keep on pretending to agree even if we actually disagree then I believe it will not be a good place to hang-out. Hypocrisy shows eventually.
Great Discussion!
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
2 Jun 10
hi bodhisatya oh we all of us have wisdom, its just in knowing
how to use it best. I just would love to see people be more
honest but with respect and love, not insulting. I think a lot
of people here can disagree with out being one bit mean at
all , just say this is only my opinion,also you could state
I do respect your opinion so please respect mine too.
@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
8 Jun 10
hi right on, that is why we are here to learn and share and help
each other, and earn a bit too.
@bodhisatya (2384)
• India
3 Jun 10
Ofcourse dear friend, thats why we are here aren't we?
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@rosekiss (30414)
• Eugene, Oregon
2 Jun 10
You are so right. We should be able to disagree with views without fear of reproach or ridicule, as we all have a right to our opinions. That is what makes mylot so unique. If someone disagrees with me, I don't take offense to it at all, as they do have aright to disagree. When we do disagree though, we should do it with respect for others and not criticize them for the way they believe. Good luck to you and happy mylotting.
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
2 Jun 10
hi rosekiss that is it exactly, we can and do and should have differetn viewpoints but we must also respect others viewpoints to. so we agree to disagree with respect and do not ever criticize anyone for their beliefs. I have seen in the past in t he political discussions where people were calling each other ugly names. I responded to just one and was told I was a demoncrat not a democrat. so from then on I never responded to a political discussion at all. I do not like fights. we can all air our beliefs without being ugly or critical of each other. it is called respect to say I honor your ideas and hope you will do the same. respect is the name of the game.
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
2 Jun 10
hi saphrina and binggalin uh yes we need you here saphrina to
keep us all on our toes. we can all disagree at times as long]
as we really do not throw mean things at each other, pretend
Saphrina bites is another thing. she always makes me smile
and even laugh at times. come back we need you.
@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
6 Jun 10
sagar oh yes we can all share our views and just remember that
'they are our views and yours are your views so we are not to
slam each other for not agreeing. be polite and not rude. lol.
@StephanieAnnC (4274)
• United States
2 Jun 10
I personally believe that if I disagree with the poster, that makes it more fun and I comment more.
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
2 Jun 10
hi stephanieAnnc yes I think so too as long as i am not insulted for myh own view I love to get all sorts of views and it makes me more up
to commenting also. I am seeing a number of people feel like I do
but of course there are those who feel they have to change ones mind ant that is insulting.
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@HADDOWZ (1469)
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2 Jun 10
Well if everyone agreed wholeheartedly with everyone else then the world would be a pretty boring place to be. Having different opions and points of view is simply life it's self.
Some people tend to express their views in a way that looks like they are agreeing but in reality they are disagreeing. I cant see the point in this. If you have a different view on a subject JUST SAY IT.
Have fun.
@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
2 Jun 10
haddowz yes indeed it would be so dull and this way its always
more interesting and besides when having a discussion with
friends off line we do not always agree but as friends we do
respect each others right to their own opinions.
@ellie333 (21016)
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2 Jun 10
Hi Hatley, I love it when someone posts an opposite opinion as that is what a discussion is all about and as so many people from all over the owrld are on here it is going to happen. You can also learn by looking at things from a different point of veiw. Huggles. Ellie :D
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
2 Jun 10
hi ellie and stine I also love it when I get varying responses as I
feel they really are being honest and geniume in their opinions and
not just kissingup to the poster of the discussion. we just agree to
disagree with respect and affection so there are no bad feelings just\
a great discussion.
@littleowl (7157)
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2 Jun 10
Hi Hatley,
If we were all afraid to say what and and how we feel or think of a situation then a lot of people would never know any difference, or heed advice etc. It is healthy to give your opinion and idea's even if the other person doesn't agree with you it is always good to hear others perspectives of things if you agree with them or not. Like yourself I have a best friend (Tamara) and we have often disagreed with each other and fallen out but with love and respect for each other, so it should be here on the Lot- LoLo
@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
2 Jun 10
hi littleowl you and tamara are adults who know how to agree to
disagree and I h ave made some really great friends here by doing
just that, one who reespects my belief in God even tho hes not at
all sure about God, but he respects me and I respect him even as I\
disagree. I do not insult him,nor he me. andthats the way it really
should be in a discussion as we have people from all over and how can we expect everyone to agree with everything. just disagree with love and respect.
@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
2 Jun 10
I've noticed a couple of other discussions along these lines in the past few weeks, so it's a noticeable trend. About the only kind of discussion I won't post a disagreement with is a religious one because that subject is very touchy and people tend to be close-minded when it comes to their religion. There are a few people here that can disagree in a civil manner, I've noticed, and they always make a discussion more interesting.
You and I disagree on some things, too, but we never seem to clash. Adults can disagree and still have an interesting conversation. I wonder if it's because so many Lotters are younger people that you don't notice a lot of them disagreeing?
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
2 Jun 10
hi dragon54u oh yes we have disagreed and yet remain friends as we
treated each other with courtesy. Maybe you are right that younger
people and newbies think its wrong to disagre but its not wrong
if done with courtesy and respecting the others right to have a
different viewpoint.
@cyrus123 (6363)
• United States
2 Jun 10
I think we can agree to disagree, too. That is, unless it comes down to bible matters. Other than that, like you said, I also think we can disagree as long as we do it with respect, love, and affection. I don't expect everybody to like the same things I do because I think that's what makes life interesting. Think what the world would be like if we all liked the same things!
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
2 Jun 10
hi kathy hope I got your name right. yes we can all agree to disagree
I am with you on bible matters as thats a different thing. but if
we disagree with love and respect then it really makes a discussion
fun,i do not meaning being mean and confrontational as thats not my
way at all. I just mean for us to be sincere and if we do not agree
say so keeping in mind the right of each of us to have our own opinions.
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@topffer (42156)
• France
2 Jun 10
Hello Hatley,
I agree that "discussions are for discussing pros and cons", but I am less courageous than you. I am always polite when I disagree with a member starting a discussion, and I have been flamed in return two or three times here by newcomers who don't want to read another opinion than their own opinion... I prefer to avoid now some discussions, though it is always a pleasure to cross swords with open minded members : a discussion is more interesting when everybody share openly his/her views. It is funny when two members have conflicting opinions and try to convince each other, when it is done kindly and politely. But it is not always like that at myLot...
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
2 Jun 10
hi toffer some people even here think that in order to express their
own viewpoints they have to belittle the others viewpoint and that is
not what I mean at all. I have often disagreed with someone but told the
person I respect your point of view, but i differ in such and such, and hope you will respect my view too. and have seldom had anyone get angry with me as I was not insulting them at all.