I think it&#39;s time to trust your SELF

de_toya

@de_toya (2429)

• Indonesia

10 Jun 10

Everything could be discussed here. It's depend on the response. For instance, your discussion here won't be good discussion if we just respond it with "yes, I agree with you" or "yes, you are right". You won't make counter argumentation for that response, will you? I agree with you that we have to start discussion that leaving the space to make counter arguments. But it's up to the other member. How we respond to the discussion is important too.

@valkerion (1827)

• United Kingdom

9 Jun 10

Actually no. myLot is not for this purpose. myLot is for making discussions. Discussions mean leaving the space to make counter arguments. If someone asks "is neobux scam" there is no much of discussion to be made. Proofs can be easily faked and stolen. I have seen make phony proofs and many stolen ones. So payment proofs worth nothing to me. People can even go to the HTML of paypal, get it offline, change it, and make it seen like their paypal account has money in it.

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starsailover

@starsailover (7829)

• Mexico

8 Jun 10

Hi valkerion: I agree with you. In these discussions I don't know what to say because, as you mention they are discussion where you can only say yes or no. I think that it's good to help people and talk about a site that is scam but at the same time it's good that you do your own investigations and to have your own strategies. So I would say this should be 50% of your own effort and 50% of help from the others. In general, I have to admit that I don't like this kind of discussions. Have a nice day. ALVARO.

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Chysom Scott

@CJscott (4187)

• Portage La Prairie, Manitoba

9 Jun 10

I prefer the 80/20 rule myself, ageless and of course universal. 80% your efforts 20% mine...or the other way around, right now 80% of my effort gets me 20% of my income, soon it will be the other way around 20% effort 80% income...or something like that, though when it comes to searching out scams, 80% me and 20% you, and keep in mind, I only value what you say as your opinion, and opinions are the cheapest commodity on the planet. Sincerely and With Appreciation.

@valkerion (1827)

• United Kingdom

8 Jun 10

Hello there Alvaro! It's been a while now that I am avoiding these kind of conversations for the reason that I think other myLotters will go and help. I believe many of the old myLotters do the same and concentrate on real conversations. To be honest, if people want to (as I wanted to) they can be 99% depended on their research! Have a nice day too!

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purplealabaster

@purplealabaster (22091)

• United States

9 Jun 10

That is why I know who I can and can't trust, and these are the people that I go to for advice when I am interested in a site. Why do the work myself, when I can designate responsibility and get just as good information as doing it myself? Of course, this will only work if you know the person and know that they are reliable and have done investigations on the site in question.

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purplealabaster

@purplealabaster (22091)

• United States

12 Jun 10

I totally agree with you that asking for someone's advice, especially if you know and trust them and their investigative skills is entirely different than relying on someone that you don't know to give you advice on something and trusting everything that they say, even if they are supposed to be an expert in their field. Several years ago, I knew a guy that got a sizable amount of money, and he decided to invest it. He always quoted this one guy that was supposed to be an expert on financial advising, and did everything that this guy suggested. Mind you, this was not even a financial consultant that was personally assisting him but merely an expert financial adviser that published a lot of articles and such in financial magazines, on-line, etc. I could not understand why this guy would trust someone that he had never met to give him advice, especially since the advice was not specifically directed towards him and his situation. I had a substantially less amount of money to invest, but I did my own research and decided on my course of action. This guy kept trying to tell me what I should do with my money based on what the financial expert said. I disagreed and told him that my money was important to me, so I would be the one that I would rely on not some guy that I had never met and who did not know me. I did just fine with my investing, and he ended up losing money, although over time he might have done just fine ... I am not sure. My point with this was that it depends upon what is at stake and who the advice is coming from whether or not I will do my own independent research or listen to the advice and research of someone else. You have to know when to do things yourself and when to delegate authority and trust others.

tap0991

@tap0991 (2766)

• United States

9 Jun 10

Yea I know what you mean about everyone asking if a site is a scam but usually if I ask about a site I ask if anyone from has been paid by said site. Its almost the same thing but I try to get all the information I can about a site from people who post in my discussions by asking them questions. That way all other users have to do is search, which is what they should do else where.

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tap0991

@tap0991 (2766)

• United States

9 Jun 10

yea I usually do my own search but if its hard to find one or I want to help people at mylot I make a discussion.

meerat75

@meerat75 (111)

•

9 Jun 10

If we are aware of the discussion topic, I don't think much research is required for the same. The proper advice or response is depend on the awareness on the subject. I used to provide responses on my knowledge and experience only. Many cases it felt it is correct also. Regards, Meera

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hardworkinggurl

@hardworkinggurl (37063)

• United States

9 Jun 10

Interesting discussion; I would have to say that it is a 50/50 toss up on that one. Basically we do rely on ourselves, especially when one really wants to succeed. But ultimately we do rely on the stranger on myLot and or other website as what we are basically hoping is that it is true. I have to say I personally rely on myself 99.9% of the time and do all the necessary research if in fact I am interested. Then when making my decision I want to be satisfied that It was my decision and not accommodated by the "stranger". I believe many have been scammed at one point or another, hopefully we have learned from it and not continue the vicious pattern. It is unfortunate that a person could be so desperate for an earning that the "stranger" takes advantage. I suppose my question would be; Can I rely on you? LOL

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@valkerion (1827)

• United Kingdom

9 Jun 10

Exactly. I am not saying we shouldn't trust others or shouldn't get the advice of the others, but it would be neat if we first did some research for the shake of good will! My myLot friends are 100% trustworthy and I am very happy for this. The ones that are not, are just new comers that have a great potential. I can rely on my friends. And my friends can rely on me. But still, we keep it at private messages. Sure you can rely me! I am the best man you can hire the day after the end of the world! :P

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hardworkinggurl

@hardworkinggurl (37063)

• United States

9 Jun 10

Nice to know! Yes I feel that there many reasons why people on myLot do what they do, and if they can remember the need for doing what they do online they will amiss positive trustworthiness. Although, we most always pay attention to every detail as there are many out to get what they can get with no remorse. Thanks for the discussion.

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skysuccess

@skysuccess (8858)

• Singapore

9 Jun 10

valkerion, What you had mentioned here is in one way legitimate in view of the quality of the discussion for the MEM category. Not that I do not mind these discussions, but it is very disgusting to see it being repeated asking (duplicate) either in the MEM category or worse disgustingly in other categories. I mean look around at the number of similar posts on readbux, neobux, and many other **bux, aren't they all similar? Asking if it is a scam, then someone will say that there's some account inaccessible issues, non existing duplicate account infringement and not forgetting some late or non payment issues. Didn't these posters not know that there were already other posts posted? It is just really sad and sickening to see this category being abused. In all fairness, I feel that this category should allow those who genuinely want or rather have something legitimate to share and help those who wants to earn online. Complaints or technicalities should be left out or disallowed. I hope the admin is reading this and if it is possible at all, to merge all the discussions with the same subject together to the original posts.

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mem category

skysuccess

@skysuccess (8858)

• Singapore

10 Jun 10

valkerion, I have every confidence that the mods here will be working round the clock with these discussions and not hesitate to delete those that are infringing the TOS or guidelines here. Just hope to see the end of these unnecessary abuses.

@valkerion (1827)

• United Kingdom

9 Jun 10

Even in technical terms, I am sure that myLot isn't happy that has a hundred of same topics, getting space at the database. I see it everyday. There has been a long time since someone posted something legitimate and discussion worthy at MEM. That makes MEM to be like the "Questions and answers" interest. By the way, by the time polls are against the TOS, how can we have a "Questions and answers" interest? I mean, if someone has a question, I am sure there is an appropriate category for it (like: life, reading, soccer whatever) but just pure "Questions and answers" rings the "Poll" bell to me.

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moonchild1au

@moonchild1au (6237)

• Australia

9 Jun 10

I agree with what alot of other people have said here & that is that others can be lazy...sure we should expect to find discussions on here saying so & so is a scam site but only if a person hasn't been paid by them & it's been over the time period & there has been no response by the admin when a ticket has been lodged...I believe that we all have a right to now in that instant... I have also been known to ask if people have been paid by a site but that's normally after I have signed up to use the site... For me to research a site, I normally sign up & request payout when I reach payout & if they pay, they pay, if they don't & disappear or my account disappears then I will speak out about them... I don't agree that people should be doing research for others...If you want to find out if a site pays or not, there are several forums for that or just simply join up & find out for yourself. Simple :)

moonchild1au

@moonchild1au (6237)

• Australia

10 Jun 10

This is true...I just don't understand why someone would want to get someone else's research off them...what if that person found out the wrong thing? Like you said, we should all learn to trust ourselves.

@valkerion (1827)

• United Kingdom

9 Jun 10

The fact is that people do research for others. But the problem is how do people trust others for the research. And I have seen people being relied on others in order to invest. Why? Who made the other person more smart or more acknowledgeable than you? Sure, it took the researcher some time in order to understand what to look and how to look for it, but when we talk about money, investing time for research is a must! For me, the research is done long before I join to a web-site

Chysom Scott

@CJscott (4187)

• Portage La Prairie, Manitoba

9 Jun 10

Well said my friend, alas only about 35% of the population like to do research, the rest aren't so fussed about it. So, the rest ask, about 15% just want to rush right in because they understand the big picture right away, and are not fussed with the details. Another 15%, just want to be in charge, so they make the sites, and are hard sellers, and the rest are the nurses....well they like to care and nurture for others. Do your research I say, and get the right help, help from someone with nothing to gain. Sincerely and With Appreciation.

@valkerion (1827)

• United Kingdom

9 Jun 10

The greatest combination would be to be a nurse and to rush right in!

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Chysom Scott

@CJscott (4187)

• Portage La Prairie, Manitoba

9 Jun 10

And some people are like that, we are all a combination of all these kinds of people, just one that is about 40%, and the rest divided amongst the 60, on average. Remember use averages and be conservative. Of course, you could also learn all about the colors to success, the different languages of the people you speak to based on their personality. I could help you with that...but you know all about that already, just hit up that audio site, and give "Colors" a listen. Just our teams take on it. Completely agree by the way, be a nurse and rush right in...NOT. Lol. Do your research, help others along, have a load of fun, and make some money. And since research is fun...

@valkerion (1827)

• United Kingdom

9 Jun 10

What if we made research both fun and profitable?

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seokkyu125

@seokkyu125 (244)

• United States

8 Jun 10

Everybody is just too lazy to do their own research. Plus I think they want to post something so that they can their money from mylot. :P I always tell them if you think it's a scam then just don't do it cause there are lots of other legitimate sites that actually works.

starsailover

@starsailover (7829)

• Mexico

8 Jun 10

Hi seok kyu and valkerion: I agree with you, money making business it's not that easy, it's just another kind of job so we have to make our own investigations to get these important facts and not waiting for the others to tell you what to do with your money. Thanks for your answer. Have a nice day. ALVARO

@valkerion (1827)

• United Kingdom

8 Jun 10

Ah! The laziness! How do the expect to make money online by being lazy? It requires research, organization and patience to do so. I think they won't do that good in the "online money making" industry if they are lazy to even research about a site that they are going to invest! :(

@valkerion (1827)

• United Kingdom

8 Jun 10

PS: You have a new friend request!

Always smiling

@allknowing (137553)

• India

9 Jun 10

Who says myLot is not a forum?I did some research for you. Check this out: http://www.squidoo.com/secretofmylot. Would be happy if you commented after going through this site.I found it informative.

@valkerion (1827)

• United Kingdom

9 Jun 10

What do you mean? Did you even read my thread?

By the way, do you know that squidoo pages are made my members? What a member says doesn't mean that is a the rule. myLot isn't a forum. We can't bump, we can't edit, we can't have sticky topics. It's a discussions innovative platform.

@valkerion (1827)

• United Kingdom

9 Jun 10

oh sorry! I misunderstood your intentions! I thought you agreed with the person that said that this is a forum! I am happy everything is resolved now :)

topffer

@topffer (42156)

• France

8 Jun 10

There is often nothing to discuss in these conversations. Members want only some reassuring news : "Have you been paid by gagabux recently ?" -- this one comes three times each day -- ; "Is Readbud a scam ?" -- a very popular subject too --. And what about "Is xxx a scam ?" when xxx is a week old... Most myLot's members are not expecting you to do the "dirty" work for them, but just to calm down their stress. Unlike what you believe Val, you are not doing an adviser job in "Make Extra Money", but a nurse job

@valkerion (1827)

• United Kingdom

8 Jun 10

Nurse? haha ! I know! But I wanted to put it in a polite way! And yes! These topics you said are so common.. Imagine myLot not having a search the discussions feature!

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@valkerion (1827)

• United Kingdom

8 Jun 10

or from nursers complaining about their patients

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topffer

@topffer (42156)

• France

8 Jun 10

It is not impolite, it is realism. There are in the best days four or five good discussions in "Make extra money", and a few started by new members needing truly an advice. The rest are from patients needing nursing.

zralte

@zralte (4178)

• India

8 Jun 10

Someone's bored of seeing the same old discussion everyday like me huh? Except that you speak out. I love helping others out too. And well, I love being on the receiving end as well. But most of the discussions are repeated and well, I was called 'bad advice giver' because I told someone that the discussion posted was duplicate topic.

I agree with you totally, val. I tried lots of sites out myself. Some worked out, some turned scam, and some---well, verdict's still pending. I also follow someone's advice, but most of all, I trust my instinct. Though I admit that when you are just starting out, it's hard to even have an instinct.

@valkerion (1827)

• United Kingdom

8 Jun 10

Ah.. I am happy that someone shares the same feelings with me! It's sad to see most of the discussions being targeted to these things. I think new comers sadly, do not understand that his is not a forum, but a discussion platform.

zralte

@zralte (4178)

• India

8 Jun 10

Yep yep yep.....a lot of members think myLot is a forum. Well, to be honest, I did think like that too, when I first joined. Didn't take me long to realise what it is though.

@valkerion (1827)

• United Kingdom

8 Jun 10

Yeah but if someone took 10 mins out of their life in order to read the guidelines, the should easily understood like you that this is not a forum and that quality is what matters!

jennyze

@jennyze (7028)

• Indonesia

9 Jun 10

Ha ha ha, good point! Still other people references help. How did I know and join this site, do you think? A friend's reference (I've never met her).

@valkerion (1827)

• United Kingdom

9 Jun 10

Do you at least know if she is hot or not?

@valkerion (1827)

• United Kingdom

9 Jun 10

are you hot?

jennyze

@jennyze (7028)

• Indonesia

9 Jun 10

lol.. I like you!

34momma

@34momma (13882)

• United States

8 Jun 10

most people do things for two reason. they either do something because they fear not doing it. or they don't do something because they fear if they do it, something bad will happen. you are right. people need to reseach and then trust that they are smart enough to make good choices for themselves. and if you lose $10 or $20 it's not the end of the world. but you don't ever try to make money online or step outside of your comfort zone, you will never ever know what if!!!!

@valkerion (1827)

• United Kingdom

8 Jun 10

Hello momma. I understand that they have the fear of trying to invest on a site, but they can just not invest and test a site in order to see if it's working with that standards or not. I have said it many times: Making money through internet is like having a pill of crap and diamonds in it. You have to get your hands dirty with crap in order to bring the diamonds out

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vanny

@vandana7 (100531)

• India

9 Jun 10

Hey stranger, I trust you because you and me never met, never fought, are not competing, and I kinda like the way you advise you know. :)

@valkerion (1827)

• United Kingdom

9 Jun 10

AWwww

Thank you so much vandana! I hope you have no complain on me

workingmom50

@workingmom50 (3091)

• United States

8 Jun 10

As you were writing this...I was once again giving some simple ways to test a site for scam....

I noticed the other popular discussion you forgot to mention...."So and so site is a SCAM"....just because they are having personal issues with the site...yesterday I found myself defending donkeymails...a site that has been around for years. You know that I really don't mind answering questions...but it would be nice if there were a few new ones...and that when we do take the time to help out that we don't see the very same person asking the same question again...

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@valkerion (1827)

• United Kingdom

8 Jun 10

Of course it's not problem to answer questions! But as you said, when you see the same person making the exact same question after a week, or seeing two conversations with the same topic whilst being a page away, is really disappointing!

saphrina

@saphrina (31551)

• South Africa

9 Jun 10

So does this mean, i have to do everything myself now? TATA.

hard work