BO Said He IS A Muslim!?
By Maggiepie
@Maggiepie (7816)
United States
June 14, 2010 1:38pm CST
Not a surprise to many, but it is a surprise that a Muslim, Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Arab Republic of Egypt, Ahmed Aboul Gheit, says BO told him so himself, letting the cat out of the bag.
Now, had BO been honest from the get-go, I still wouldn't have voted for him, as he is an anti-Israel thug, & Marxist, but at least I could have respected his honesty. But I wouldn't have ruled him out on his religion, unless I were positive he were supporting terrorists.
Go here to read all the details:
http://www.impeachobamacampaign.com/egyptian-foreign-minister-obama-told-me-himself-i-am-a-muslim/
Egyptian Foreign Minister Ahmed Aboul Gheit said he had a one-on-one meeting with Obama, in which President Obama told him that he was still a Muslim, the son of a Muslim father, the stepson of Muslim stepfather, that his half brothers in Kenya are Muslims, & that he was sympathetic towards the Muslim agenda. (Emphasis mine. Mags)
This was said during the week of 14-18th of January 2010, there was a Nile TV broadcast in which Egyptian Foreign Minister Abul Gheit said..."Obama...asked that the Muslim world show patience. Obama promised that once he overcame some domestic American problems (health care), that he would show the Muslim world what he would do with Israel.
Just one additional note before I go, which helps put this in perspective for you: Al-Tabari's (d. 923) famous tafsir (exegesis of the Koran) is a standard & authoritative reference work in the entire Muslim world. Regarding 3:28, he writes: "If you [Muslims] are under their [infidels'] authority, fearing for yourselves, behave loyally to them, with your tongue, while harboring inner animosity for them. … Allah has forbidden believers from being friendly or on intimate terms with the infidels in place of believers — except when infidels are above them [in authority]. In such a scenario, let them act friendly towards them." Regarding 3:28, Ibn Kathir (d. 1373, second in authority only to Tabari) writes, "Whoever at any time or place fears their [infidels'] evil may protect himself through outward show." As proof of this, he quotes Muhammad's close companion, Abu Darda, who said, "Let us smile to the face of some people [non-Muslims] while our hearts curse them"; another companion, al-Hassan, said, "Doing taqiyya is acceptable till the Day of Judgment [i.e., in perpetuity]. Source: "War and Peace--& Deceit--in Islam" by Raymond Ibrahim
I hope you will read this lengthy, but very informative article.
Oh, & Kool-Ade drinkers? Don't bother. We all know your brain's turned to concrete re BO's sordid history of lies & thuggery, & not even God Himself could change your minds. I'd rather just hear from people who hadn't heard this, & find out what YOU think of this.
Maggiepie
"Whoever alters his religion, kill him." ~ Islam's prophet Muhammad. The founder of the "religion of peace."
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7 responses
@nina_khan (749)
• Pakistan
15 Jun 10
Hello Maggie
what is the problem if he is a Muslim.
i have noticed that you has been creating such discussions against him??
i am not supporting him or some what like that but why are talking so against him??
even he is a muslim or christen it is non of our business if he is doing good thats ok with most US people.
i dont think US people are so congested so they cant have any muslim politician inside them??
be brave he has stopped all that drama of terrorism and osama. where as we all know what was the main reason behind that??
thanks for the discussion
@Maggiepie (7816)
• United States
15 Jun 10
It absolutely IS our business, as it influences his work. In this country, Americans have the right to know as much as possible about anyone in office, especially if it affects that person's job, & in the case of the president, affects us personally--which his pattern of lying, his socialist agenda & his cadre of extremist czars DOES. If he is Muslim, that's one thing--that would be fine! But if he is supporting radical Muslims, which the minister said he told him he was (& why would HE lie?), & HIDING his real faith, then BO must GO.
You should read my other answers here, as my position on this is absolutely clear. If you don't read them that's against MyLot's direct guidelines, by the way.
And by the way, he is NOT "ok with most US people." His ratings are in the 40s, somewhere, & still dropping. If you don't read the other letters, here, maybe you didn't KNOW that?
And HE didn't stop terrorism. In fact, there have been several minor episodes here under his reign--unlike under his predecessor.
And to what are you referring regarding "the main reason?" Reason for what?
Maggiepie
"Our job is to give people not what they want, but what we think they ought to have." ~ Former president of CBS News, Richard Salant
@Maggiepie (7816)
• United States
15 Jun 10
NINA: Clearly you are completely ignorant of how our country does things. The U.N. has NO authority over us. WE THE PEOPLE are the only ones above BO--except of course for God, Who is over EVERYONE.
And get this straight: we are NOT against "the Muslim community," though we want all who come here to assimilate, & not self-segregate...but we ARE against RADICAL extremist Muslims, whom BO is helping in various ways, either by action or inaction. He could have been elected were he to have declared his true faith; it's the HIDING & the LYING we mind! So you think it's okay for him to lie?
There are some people who will never vote for a woman to be president, but the majority of Americans are open to it, & to other things. For example, there were some people who feared to elect John F. Kennedy, thinking his Roman Catholic faith would compromise him by his need to show allegiance to the Pope, but we voted him in ANYWAY. Some were afraid BO's being partly black would make him more accessible to blacks (as opposed to whites), but his race did NOT keep him out of office! The same applies to BO's religion. I'm sure some people didn't want any Muslim in the White House, but our general openness would have elected him trusting him because he'd told the truth. Instead, BO's constant hiding & lying has achieved the precise opposite.
We have learned, he is not a trustworthy individual. In fact, he has done more disservice to the peaceful Muslims by his deceptiveness than any thing the radical Muslims have done. I think, in fact, he may have well made it impossible, at least in our lifetimes, for any decent Muslims to run! How's that for irony?
The point is, we, as a country, are NOT blaming "all Muslims" for what the bad ones have done (& still do). We've MORE than made that clear. Only certain media idiots continue to pretend we think as you believe we do! YOU must be harking to them!
Also, we'll stop talking about radical Muslims when they stop slaughtering innocent people, murdering them in cold blood in sneak bomb attacks in the neutral public square, instead of a battlefield! So kindly stop trying to convince any American to self-censor, just because YOU refuse to admit there are bad Muslims! Get out of your comfort zone!
And last but not least--before I read this post--I DID read & reply--to ALL your posts, so knock off the B.S. Until you bother to acknowledge that AND read every post here (& I repeat: not to do so before you post is against the rules), I WILL refrain from replying to any more, & nor will I bother to answer another ignorant post from you 'til you study what our position is & what our Constitution permits.
Now you go do that.
Maggiepie
"He who knows nothing is nearer to the truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods & errors." ~ Thomas Jefferson
@nina_khan (749)
• Pakistan
15 Jun 10
if you knew he is Muslim before you would not have elected him as a president.
he knew more about you people he lives in between you people so he knows the mentality of all of you people. and if there is a problem with him Write to UN or any high authority to take him down and let some one other as a president.
i dont know why you people are so much against Muslim community??
lets say some one has done wrong in our country and he is AN AMERICAN will we blame all of the community present in US?
there are some bad people ever where then why you use Muslim muslim muslim every where??
you people have degrees but are not educated??? or what?? sorry for being little harsh but i observed since 9/11 people using too much of that MUSLIM name. kindly stop that.
and also i know the rules and regulations of MYLOT you must not be teaching me that.
i have read all the comments and also responded view of them too. i think you are not reading any one of them? kindly ready them out
thanks(my last comment here)
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@snapdragons (91)
• United States
15 Jun 10
Hi Maggiepie! This is very surprising to me and I guess the cat is out of the bag now. I wonder what Obama will do now...make this guy disappear or something? Might be kind of hard considering who he is. I don't trust the man and have known all along that he was hiding truths about himself. It just takes time to peel that onion back but one day we will know everything about the *person* who calls himself the president.
@Maggiepie (7816)
• United States
15 Jun 10
I totally agree BO would do that, & in fact, HAS done it. He claims to be a "Christian," but it's clear he has no grounding in the tenets of Christianity at all. The best proof of that is his 20-year stay in the...uh..."Reverend" Wright's hate-soaked "church," which has long been known to be a front for Communism. But even the little things prove he's not one. Heck, rather than attend Church, he plays golf, for which ha always seems to find time.
But, "surprised?" Nah, he stopped surprising me years ago!
Maggiepie
"God d___ America!" ~ From one of the racist "minister" Jeremiah Wright's "sermons" to his Black Liberation Theology congregation.
@Maggiepie (7816)
• United States
16 Jun 10
But don't you see? That's already happened! Several times, in fact, & this is only the latest episode.
The real problem is 2-fold: One, the "mainstream" media--particularly the television news outlets--help BO hide whatever they think would give him a problem, leaving it all up to alternative media to inform people, & then of course these media proceed to ridicule & demonize any such outlets as "not real news" (even BO said that).
Two, those in the public who still swallow whole whatever the lockstep media say, dismiss anything that the alternative media say. And the Kool-Ade drinkers--even those who KNOW BO is a liar--set up a howl of "RACISM!" It's amazing what credibility that idiotic lie still has. I wonder if it's lead in the water that produces such sheep, or what...
The thing is, BO only attends church when he needs a photo of him behaving as a real Christian does, to boost his image. It's plain to anyone with any knowledge of Christian faith that, if he's not Muslin, he never-the-less is NOT Christian.
Maggiepie
“All government, in its essence, is organized exploitation, & in virtually all of its existing forms it is the implacable enemy of every industrious & well-disposed man.” ~ Henry Louis Mencken (1880 - 1956)
@snapdragons (91)
• United States
16 Jun 10
It is funny how he's only attended church once since he took office but was a regular at his former church in Chicago. I just wish something would happen that would let the truth come out.
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@Lakota12 (42600)
• United States
15 Jun 10
How does a person say hes Muslim when he went to that trinity chruch for what 20 years that hate american church he was in when running then he said he was wht I think baptist?
maybe not that church but another that we all reconized. as a christian church.
HE sure swithes alot dont he!?
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@Maggiepie (7816)
• United States
15 Jun 10
Yep. That he do! And no real Baptist church would ever spout the obscenities, heresy & blasphemy that so called "Reverend" Wright does. The fact is, he's never been a Christian; Christian is as Christian does, & BO doesn't.
Maggiepie
"Our job is to give people not what they want, but what we think they ought to have." ~ Former president of CBS News, Richard Salant (yet another "mainstream" Leftist media person who's "objective"... )
@MrNiceGuy (4141)
• United States
14 Jun 10
He doesn't actually say he is a Muslim there at all. He just suggest at a chance of understanding. But to be honest, I think Obama would pretend to be whatever religion was popular or benificial at the time.
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@Maggiepie (7816)
• United States
15 Jun 10
Yes...he did say exactly that! Look: "Finally, during the week of 14-18th of January 2010, just on the eve of my winter tour to the US, Rachel picked up a Nile TV broadcast in which Egyptian Foreign Minister Abul Gheit said on the "Round Table Show" that he had had a one on one meeting with Obama who swore to him that he was a Moslem, the son of a Moslem father and step-son of Moslem step-father, that his half-brothers in Kenya were Moslems, and that he was loyal to the Moslem agenda. He asked that the Moslem world show patience. Obama promised that once he overcame some domestic American problems (Healthcare), that he would show the Moslem world what he would do with Israel."
Of course, I changed "Moslem" to the more modern version, "Muslim," but it's the same thing!
That said, I totally agree BO would do that, & in fact, HAS done it. He claims to be a Christian," but it's clear he has no grounding in the tenets of Christianity at all. The best proof of that is his 20-year stay in the...uh..."Reverend" Wright's "church, which has long been known, to be a front for Communism.
Maggiepie
"God d___ America!" ~ From one of the racist "minister" Jeremiah Wright's "sermons" to his Black Liberation Theologist congregation
@rosdimy (3926)
• Malaysia
15 Jun 10
Did the words really come out of his mouth as claimed by the Egyptian Foreign Minister? Or maybe he drew his own conclusions and made it as if Obama made the confession?
The concept of taqiyyah is accepted and practised by Shi'ites. The Sunnis, who form the majority of Muslims, do not accept it. Obama was brought up by a Sunni Muslim family, so I doubt that he would pretend to be a Christian by going to church.
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@Maggiepie (7816)
• United States
15 Jun 10
But he doesn't GO to Church unless it's politically convenient & expedient for him, & even the, he attended THE most hate-filled non-Christian one he could find. It helped him get a public following, & that's why he did that.
Plus, again, that minister is far from being the only person--& some knew him very well--who say he is a devout Muslim.
Maggiepie
"God d___ America!" ~ From one of the racist "minister" Jeremiah Wright's "sermons" to his Black Liberation Theology congregation.
@shibily88 (205)
• India
14 Jun 10
"Whoever alters his religion, kill him." is wrong in case of islam, you are not aware about islam. Obama's father is muslim, mother belongs to christian and he is hindu. Obama believes in the god ganapathy.
@Maggiepie (7816)
• United States
15 Jun 10
No, that's a quote from the Quran. I am very aware of what Islam is about. That Hindu thing's new, though. I've never heard anyone ever say BO was Hindu, though! From where do you get that??
Maggiepie
"Whoever alters his religion, kill him." ~ Islam's prophet Muhammad, founder of the "religion of peace."
@nina_khan (749)
• Pakistan
15 Jun 10
you are wrong and you will be proven wrong if you go to some one with more knowledge than you do have..
there are so many meanings behind a single line.
Stop kill him
Stop,kill him
stop kill,him
there are too many meanings of one line how come you are right to know what is written in ARABIC? you are not and Arabic master.
if you go to the IMAM and he will explain you the verse you are talking about when ALLAH said that to do that. there is a back ground behind that. kindly dont talk such things when you are not fully known to that. research must help you.
take care
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@Maggiepie (7816)
• United States
15 Jun 10
I don't have to read it in Arabic. I have a translation of the Quran, & it was done by those masters who DO speak Arabic. And since the Quran also plainly states that it is perfectly good to lie to fool those not of your religion, why should anyone who isn't Muslim trust ANYthing a deluded (or possibly lying) Imam says?
I regret to inform you, it is YOU who need to research your own Quran.
Maggiepie
"Our job is to give people not what they want, but what we think they ought to have." ~ Former president of CBS News, Richard Salant (yet another "mainstream" Leftist media person who's "objective"... )
@zralte (4178)
• India
14 Jun 10
Hi Maggiepie, very informative, yet again. As you already know, I am not American; but I am still allowed a reaction, right?
I still can't believe that he would lie and do such a thing!!! And harder to believe still is his Nobel prize win!!! Come on...what has he done to deserve that???
I liked Hillary and was rooting for her. And when she didn't make the nomination, I told my husband that I would not know who to vote, had I been American. I never did like him, though I don't hate him as such.
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@Maggiepie (7816)
• United States
15 Jun 10
Of course you may have opinions! That's one of the pillars of our own Constitution! What country do you live in?
That Nobel Prize thing doesn't surprise me, as they've been all about politics for decades, It does rather surprise me that they were so obvious about their phony award process though. Usually they try to pretend they've chosen on the basis of merit rather than personality & political congruency, but with BO, it was, "Well, let's just make it persuasive enough that only the blind would miss that this is a political boost, so we'll still look good. We've won the culture debate, so why bother with all the pretense to hide our true agenda any longer? It is a lot of fuss & bother, all that debate & comparing.
And thus, BO becomes a Nobel Prize winner! Yippee!
I dislike the idea of Hillary in the Oval Office, as she's just like her lying husband, Bill; they are complete lying socialistic shills.
Give me real people for whom to vote!!!
Maggiepie
"Whoever alters his religion, kill him." ~ Islam's prophet Muhammad, founder of the "religion of peace."