Do We Ever Grow Out of It?
By dorannmwin
@dorannmwin (36392)
United States
August 19, 2010 8:51am CST
Drama that is. I've been out of high school for twelve years now and I really thought I left behind the cattiness and gossip spreading when I was younger. However, I have just discovered that it isn't behind me, it is just going on behind my back (again).
I guess I am just a different kind of person than most people because I don't like to spread rumors about people, I like to be friends and if I have something that I don't like about a person or I hear something about them, I will talk to them directly.
So, do you like to gossip about other people? Are you the kind of person that takes only what you experience as first hand or do you trust everything that people say to you?
Please tell me about your experiences.
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17 responses
@gdesjardin (1918)
• United States
19 Aug 10
Unfortunately some people never grow out of gossiping. I used to think that once I was out of school I wouldn't have to deal with listening to people gossiping, but sadly people still do. When I was in my twenties, I still heard it, in my 30s same thing, and now that I am in my 40s it still isn't any different. I am very upfront with people. If I don't like something, I make it well known (in a polite way of course), but I don't believe in acting one way to a person to their face, and quite a different way behind their back. I never have trusted what people say at face value (which isn't a good thing all the time). I guess when I was younger I was so gullible, but that changed once I got out in the working world. My dad always taught me to be cautious which works well for me. However, ever now and again, I get taken advantage of I guess because I always try to help people out. I have always felt that as long as I try to lead a good life, and don't hurt people, or gossip about them, then that is all that matters.
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
19 Aug 10
hi I am with you but just to clue you in I think some people never change as I am in my 80's and still hear gossip here at Gold Crest, and people tease me as I will not contribute to the stupid talk, as I do not want to make fun of others or spread lies, its not funny to gossip about others, and a lot of times it is really harmful.
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@gdesjardin (1918)
• United States
19 Aug 10
Oh I agree with you. My parents are in their 80s as well. I usually go down with them to Florida in February every year. I will be at the beach with my mom and I can hear people just gossiping away...and these are people in their 70s and older. You would think they are a bunch of 14 year olds. It really is sad.
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
24 Aug 10
You are right though that I don't believe everything that I hear. In fact, the only time that I will really believe things is when I hear it out of the horse's mouth so to speak. This has come back to bite me in the behind a couple of times, but overall I think that it is the better way to be.
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
24 Aug 10
I will listen to it because I really don't think that there is anything else that you can do in that kind of a situation. However, I never believe it until I've heard it from the person in question.
@ayumitakashi (4462)
• United States
19 Aug 10
Yeah I'm the same as you. I'm only 21 but I've noticed that many grown ups and kids my age have not grown out of the phase and it's just a waste of time to tell you the truth. I do have people that come to me with gossip and stuff but what I do is that I see no evil, hear no evil, say no evil. I don't like to start problems with people unless they are starting problems with me and I don't gossip about people I don't know because I don't know them so I don't have a right. Certain things that have happened to me have taught that you can't really trust everyone that you know. Right now I don't even trust my own shadow. So to answer your question I don't think we leave it behind because there are always those people who never grow out of it and I think that's really sad.
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@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
24 Aug 10
I too think that it is really sad. I haven't really had a lot of friends since I was out of school because I was in a different place in my life than most other people my age were. However, as I start to find people that have a life that is similar to my own, I find that is where the similarities end.
@cream97 (29086)
• United States
29 Aug 10
Hi, dorannmwin. I am the same as you are. I don't like to surround myself with gossipers. Many people have came and told me bad things about certain people, and I don't believe them. If I have not seen it for my very own eyes, I could never believe them when they tell me the rumor. My mother-in-law can be devious when it comes to gossip. She used to tell me that her friend would ask her about why I was staying in her home. She would just come back and tell me what her friend said about me being in her home. So one day, she pissed me off and I let her have it! I told her to stop coming back, telling me, what someone has said about me. After I said this to her, I never heard one more gossip about what her friend has said about me. The way that I see it, if her friend had so much of a problem with me living in my mother-in-law's home, she should have told her that this was her home and she has the right to make the decision on who stays and who does not stay in her home. My mil should have never came back and told me what someone had to say about me. She should have taken up for me from the very beginning. She came back and gossiped to me because she agreed with her friend. She really did not want me living in her home. She just was not woman enough to tell me this herself. So using her friends criticism of me, was a way for her to get her secretive feelings out. It was the wrong way to go. I bet she saw that I stood up to her about her bringing me back garbage that someone else was telling her about me. I bet she won't try that shyt again!
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
31 Aug 10
I really don't understand why she wasn't woman enough to tell you that she really wasn't comfortable with you living in her home. Now, my husband and I did live with my mother for nearly the first four years that we were married and also for about two years prior to that. However, I'm pretty sure that the only one that ever had a problem with it was my father-in-law and he told us that he didn't like it himself.
@cynthiann (18602)
• Jamaica
20 Aug 10
You have a lot in this post to answer but to be frank I am very trusting and tend to believe what people say. and this is in business! I do not gossip and discourage it if my friends start to gossip. I may discuss a situation about a friend with another friend with the purpose of helping her though. It is just that I do not know why people would lie about something. They must have nothing to do and all day to do it in
@mysticmaggie (2498)
• United States
24 Aug 10
A lot of gossips do it because they have the mistaken impression that it makes them important. Well, actually it does make them important - to other gossips. However, gossips either rarely look at the damage their loose tongues can do to other reputations, or they are counting on the damage they can do.
Secure people don't see any reason to pass along information about a person. Instead, they go to the person who is the subject of the gossip and let them know there is a problem that needs to be taken care of asap.
Like I said, I gently take the gossip by the arm and tell her we will go see the subject of the gossip, because the whole thing needs to be straightened out. They either have to admit they are making it up or face the piper.
When I had my own company, anyone, and I do mean anyone, caught passing gossip got a verbal warning, then a written warning, then a goodbye notice. My company's time and profits were tied to people working, not passing idle gossip. The first one to go was a manager.
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
24 Aug 10
I do tend to be the kind of person that will go to someone that there are rumors flying about and let them know about it because it is difficult, if not impossible to deal with something if the subject of the gossip doesn't know what is going on. I also really like the way that you dealt with gossip within your company.
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
24 Aug 10
I think that is a lot of the problem. The girl that started all of the slander has recently found out that she was no longer employed and had a lot of time to do nothing. Still, I would think if I came across a similar situation in my life, I would lean more heavily on my friends instead of pushing them away.
@candyfairy21 (2039)
• Philippines
19 Aug 10
Unfortunately some people never grow out of it, they are still gossip mongers until the end. Whew what did they get out of it? I bet you $1 that they have never been paid gossiping unless they work in the tv or radio station and gossip about the scandals of the stars lol! I do not trust everything people say to me until the truth comes out. I have had gossip about me like wildfire before but none of them was true. There was a silly gossip that I got pregnant now that was when I was in college. When there was no baby they said I had it aborted lol see how imaginative people can be. The ones who believe it well thought it was true especially that I went through surgery for raptured appendix and said the scar from the surgery is the evidence I have aborted the baby! hahahaha up until now I am unmarried and never had a baby at all.
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@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
24 Aug 10
It just never has and never will make sense to me. I don't understand what kind of value that people find in saying things about other people that isn't true. I think they might think it makes them look better, but in the long run I don't think that even works because eventually the person that you are doing is able to find out what is going on and they can put an end to it.
@Yestheypayme2dothis (7874)
• United States
19 Aug 10
When I was growing up in school, I remember my mom telling me that when I graduated, it would be all over. She said that people eventually grow up. She meant it, and I believed her. I could not wait to grow up. Nothing changed. People were still bitter and filled with hatred.
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
24 Aug 10
You are right. I thought that people would grow up at some point, but that has definitely not proven to be the case at all.
@katsmeow1213 (28716)
• United States
20 Aug 10
I think it depends on the person. I know people who are extremely over dramatic about everything. Sometimes it makes me crazy.. but I can't say I totally mind it. One of my good friends is so overdramatic about every tiny thing she can go off on a total tangent about the most mundane things! It gets annoying but at the same time it's somewhat entertaining. But then I knew someone else who was purposely trying to bring the drama into my life, and I had to get away from them. I like to watch the drama from a safe distance and not let it into my own life, lol.
As far as rumours and talking about people... I do my fair share of it, but I'm picky about who I gossip to. I know that whoever I'm gossiping to won't go back and tell the person what I'm saying.
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
24 Aug 10
I think that there are some times that I do gossip about certain people. But, like you've said, I am very picky about who I talk to. The reason for this is that it only takes a little leak for things to get blown out of proportion.
@savypat (20216)
• United States
19 Aug 10
I don't really care what others say, if you are my friend I stand by you until after you've had your day in court. Then I'll ask you why you did it and if I can understand then you're still my friend.
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
24 Aug 10
That is the kind of friend that I try to be. I think that is the reason that I only have a few friends because I am very loyal to those that I love.
@chickabee (119)
• United States
19 Aug 10
I grew up with a mother who thrived on telling tales behind peoples backs. 99% of which were untrue, but when I was young I didn't know any better. I don't think she was happy unless she had a drama going and she was always the "innocent" one. She loved telling someone something juicy someone else supposedlhy said about them and then going to that other person and doing the same thing. This way she made two people mad at each other for no reason. She always told each person not to say she told it or she would know they did and do you know almost to the letter no one ever told that my mother was the one who instigated the whole thing????!!!! Finally, a few years ago my aunt(my mother's sister) and I talked and we let it all out to each other and discovered some really bad things my mother had said to try to make me and my aunt not like each other. This ahould probably be the topic of a whole other discussion.
To make a long story short, I had a very hard time growing up and realizing that I could not be that way. I used to be a gossip. It can be titillating, especially to an insecure child or adult. But it is so wrong!!! I have had to go back and apologize to a lot of people. My conscience really bothered me until I did. My mother would get mad at me when I wouldn't gossip with her! Would you believe she is now 87 and in a nursing home and is still doing this? She has caused more havoc in our family than you would ever believe. Just recently she caused a big problem with my brother and me by telling him false things about me and my husband. Way too much to go into now. Suffice it to say it took a lot of straightening out. I have had to train myself to never talk behind someones back. It is destructive, extremely harmful and a sin in God's eyes.
The type of person who does this is called a narcissist, in my mother's case a malignant narcissist. I found a blog online called 'Narcissists Suck" and it really opened my eyes and took away a lot of the guilt trip my mother had put me on my whole life. I love my mother because she is my mother but it would have been nice to have had one who taught me how very bad gossiping is.
I hope I haven't distorted your discussion. This is just my terrible experience with it and your question brought this to my mind.
God bless you - chickabee
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
24 Aug 10
I'm lucky that I've never been involved in anything that was quite this deep. However, I do see that the same kinds of activity happen within families and that hurts as well.
@mysticmaggie (2498)
• United States
20 Aug 10
I don't like or participate in gossip, but I will tell a person who is trying to pass dirt about a friend or acquaintance that I think we should go directly to the person and ask them what's going on.
It's amazing how fast that shuts the gossip's trap and gets you off their 'friend' list.
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
24 Aug 10
I certainly does get you off of their friend list. However, when you come across someone that acts like that, there is no benefit at all in being their friend to start with.
@much2say (56053)
• Los Angeles, California
22 Aug 10
Drama is so lame. But unfortunately, I have found that people never graduate from it . . . we're all just older and some people just can't live without their daily dose of drama. Sure I talk about friends and family, but not in a gossipy way. I analyze what people say about others, but because I know these people often mishear things or twist things around, I don't necessarily trust what they say. I like to think I'm the type of person who finds out first hand what's going on - I don't go by rumors and such.
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
24 Aug 10
I think that is where the drama comes from. One person hears another person say something that is completely factual, only they don't catch all of it and then the story is able to grow from there.
@bounce58 (17385)
• Canada
23 Aug 10
I think the culture that I grew up in is really fond of gossips and spreading rumors. Or maybe it's the generation that I belong. So, even though it doesn't look anything like the 'cattiness' with girls, guys have their own ways of making gossips and making ill-statements to other people.
I see that all the time even at work. The trick is how you let yourself rise above it. It's not easy. Specially if you get mired by one that involves you.
Good luck to you!
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
24 Aug 10
I never said that I didn't think that it exists for men because I know that it does. The thing is, I am not completely able to attest to what goes on with men because I'm not a man and I don't have a lot of guy friends.
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
24 Aug 10
I have no clue at all whatsoever about why people get off on this kind of thing. I know that it doesn't do anything at all for me. Instead, it does quite the opposite for me, it completely turns me off toward a person.
@bunnybon7 (50973)
• Holiday, Florida
19 Aug 10
you know i dont know why so many people are like that. maybe these days they have nothing better to do. they should join here where no one knows of whom they speak and get it out of their system instead of discussing it with people its going to hurt. im dealing with a lot of childishness myself. every time my son gets a woman, shes selfish and thinks some things in the house like FOOD! would you believe should be kept only for her use! whats that about? you see what i mean?
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
24 Aug 10
My sister in law actually did the same thing with food when we lived with them. Now when it comes down to being members here, I really don't understand why there aren't more people that come on here. Being on mylot is a great release for me.
@flyinghi (130)
• Canada
19 Aug 10
Funny that I should be reading this today. I recently have been feeling very much like I have been transported back to my high school years (I have been out of high school a long time). I do not like to gossip about others, I find it can be very hurtful. People who are old enough that I would have thought would not resort to childish behavior somehow are behaving like children. It appears as if not everyone grows out of the need for drama. I have found if there is something bothering about someone I need to confront them (not in a mean way). I generally find that what was bothering me can be dealt with in a mature manner.
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
24 Aug 10
I try to deal with things in a mature manner as well. That said, it is really driving me nuts with the current situation as there were a lot of people that were hurt by the situation. I know that it will get better, but it isn't easy to deal with.
@aurorastorm (1131)
• United States
19 Aug 10
I hate that you would think as you get to a certain age this would not be the case.
I like to be more upfront with people. If someone is upsetting me I just tell them straight out. I don't mince words but I also don't worry about giving someone a piece of my mind. I get really sick of the drama also.
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
24 Aug 10
I wouldn't really think that it wouldn't be the case at all, but I did like to believe that people would be a little more mature as we got older, but I've learned that isn't the case either.