Telephone Conversation between Landlords Wife and me
By Gabs
@gabs8513 (48686)
United Kingdom
October 2, 2010 8:10am CST
As you are aware I have to move because of the Landlord not paying his Mortgage
http://www.mylot.com/w/discussions/2410602.aspx?p=1
Well yesterday this is what occurred
Landlords Wife rings me
Her.... I assume you have paid the rent in
Me ..... No I haven't, as I am aware that you have not paid the Mortgage and that the Place might be repossessed
Her ..... We have sorted it yesterday thinking you are paying the rent today, we are not in court
Me ..... Load of rubbish and I will be phoning the Company to check on it I am still moving as I would never be sure if this would happen again, I am not paying this Month rent to make sure I have my Deposit back
Her..... you are nothing but a Liar, you said you would pay it
Me........ Excuse me if anyone has been lying here, it is you and your Husband
No work and repairs has been done in the Flat, I have no heating, I have decorated myself with MY Money, and all you 2 have been doing is telling me lie after lie, you ignore my calls, my Emails, my Messages
Her............ I wish they would repossess the Place, but you are nothing but a liar and I got legal advise about the Heating
Me ..........I hope you remembered to ask that it is still ok to overcharge rent when I did not get what was advertised, just empty promises that I was fool enough to believe
Her....... You took the Flat as seen
Me........ Yeah with the promises that over the first 4 Months it will all be sorted, I have been there 6 month and apart from being ignored by both of you you have done nothing, you have fooled me even though you knew about my Illness, which I hope you mentioned to your Legal adviser, you led me to believe it will be repaired
Her........ You are a Liar, you said you where paying the Rent
Me .......... Well I was till I got this letter about it being repossessed and I have to get legal advise on it because I will have to move out don't call me a Liar, also I will make you aware that the previous Tenant is willing to stand up and tell how they have been treated goodbye
I put the Phone down as she just kept saying I am a Liar
I phoned up the Company which sent me the Letter and as I thought she lied to me as they are still in Court for possible repossession
I got a Phone call from the Landlord to and well I basically told him straight to also followed it up by Email. I also let him know that I still have the Email which promoted the Flat to me , as he threatened to phone the Council and tell them that I am not paying rent on time I told him that is fine as I have my receipts and also that I can only pay when I get the Money, I told him that the Council is already aware of the Situation so he is welcome to ring them and that I have all my Paperwork ready, also that I phoned the Company who told me he IS STILL IN COURT so he is to tell his Wife to look at herself before she starts calling me or others for that Matter a Liar
So that is the update for now anyway
Would you have let them bully you ?????
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27 responses
@saphrina (31551)
• South Africa
2 Oct 10
You did well, sweetie.
I am proud of you.
I don't think they will try that one again.
I won't let anyone talk to me that way.
I would have gone to their flat and teach both of them some manners.
I get that little lapses sometimes, you know.
Keep us up to date, okay.
TATA.
@nannacroc (4049)
•
3 Oct 10
Well done,gabs. no, I wouldn't have let him bully me and I'm so pleased you haven't. Take care and I hope the council can help you, at least you'll know where you stand if you are in a council property and no worries about deposits.
I will keep you in my thoughts.
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@jeanena (2198)
• Bucklin, Kansas
3 Oct 10
I am very Proud of you Gabs for standing up for your self Babe ! These people need to learn you cannot bully other people and keep getting away with it. There are so very many people that do that I think more of us should stand up for our selves more often .
If there were promises made about work being done on the flat then they should have kept their promises . Huggles ~~Jodi
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@gabs8513 (48686)
• United Kingdom
4 Oct 10
Hi Jodi
Every word that comes out his Mouth and his Wife's are lies
I never used to stand up for myself but I had to learn and I did as for most of my Life People have walked all over me
I have kept my mouth shut these past 6 months as I was worried I would loose my Home, well now I have nothing left to loose so I will go all the way with them
Big Hugs to you
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@carmelanirel (20942)
• United States
2 Oct 10
Good for you, you kept everything for proof and stood up to this lady. Actually if I was in your shoes, yes I would do as you did, but since my husband is the primary one to pays bills, it's on him to talk to people like that...
@skysuccess (8858)
• Singapore
3 Oct 10
gabs8513,
These are really bad times for everybody and your landlord is just downright despicable to add to these bad times. I just do not know what to say here accept that you had done the right thing for not accepting anything verbal from them. I mean how could you when they cannot even fulfill their end of the bargain and that the place could be repossessed anytime.
I really hope that you'd be getting legal counsel and get these despicable characters to task. Most of all, I am also hoping that you'd be able to get a new place soon before this place become a disaster for you. I just cannot imagine you getting stranded at this time of the year.
All the best and hope to have a brighter update soon. Take care.
@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
2 Oct 10
hi gabs good for you. You countered every accusation with the truth
and she sounds like a right bully to me,I am glad that you stood
up for yourself as she sounds like someone who usually out talks
the other person.I agree you should hold onto the rent until
you know what is really going to happen.If they are in repossession
that will be a real legal mess. I sure would not have let them
bully me either. Hope this soon gets straightened out as this is
'the last thing you needed what with your own health and Gissi's
tpo. good luck God bless hugs from Hatley
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@GardenGerty (160952)
• United States
2 Oct 10
I would have probably hung up on them the first time she called me a liar. I think they hoped to use your rent to bail themselves out of the foreclosure. I am so glad you have saved all of your data regarding this place and that you can prove how they have abused you all along. I think it is a good thing you will be getting out of there before the really cold winter sets in.
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@moondancer (7431)
• United States
2 Oct 10
There is no way I would let them push me around. NOt only that they need to pay you for all of the repairs and work you have done to the place since you have been there. They promised to do things and they never did so you did some of it yourself.
Just the hassle they have put you through is enough to cause a headache or more.
All they wanted was the money and blaming you for it going back to the bank is not right because you are a couple of days late paying your rent. They knew when you moved in when your check comes in and they were fine with that, then.
Them not paying their payments on the place for months on end is why they are losing the place and has nothing to do with you.
They will most likely lose it and they want any money they can get from it in the mean time.
I'd get them for harasment and anything else I could get them for.
I'm not for suing people but these people deserve it!
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@moondancer (7431)
• United States
4 Oct 10
At least the mortgage company apologized to you. You are right it's the landlord that should do this.
But they are sorry, low down, money grabbing, snots that are interested in fattening their wallets and nothing else.
@babyangie27 (5176)
• United States
2 Oct 10
I can not believe all this is happening to you! How can people like that sleep at night?
I think you did a great job standing up for yourself and I think I would have been a little more meaner but that's just me. I tend to curse and I know you are not that type.
Have you had any luck finding another place? And yes by all means make copies upon copies and try to get as much proof as you can so these people don't get away with anything.
@gabs8513 (48686)
• United Kingdom
4 Oct 10
Hi there Angie, where have you been?
I have not been able to look yet as I am visiting my Son and Daughter at the moment, I return on Wednesday and that is when all the running around and that will start
Hugs to you and good to see you again
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@babyangie27 (5176)
• United States
4 Oct 10
Well Gabs things have been totally falling apart my way. Long story but it's kinda like a mid life crisis...from my daughter's seizures to my marriage things are falling apart at the seems. I been meaning to post about it just haven't had time. Just stay strong and hit me up anytime if you need to talk. I am mostly on FB now have thought about returning to Yuwie but not sure about that one.
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@Kashmeresmycat (6369)
• United States
2 Oct 10
No, do not let anyone bully you or talk to you in that manner, I would never let it happen. That could possibly be called harrassment also.
You do need to get legal advice though gabs, on how to handle this situation. Then you can go ahead and do what is necessary, and they will let you know what is allowed and not allowed.
What is with the heat? You mean you have no heat at all? That is totally illegal and a good case for court. Plus all the repairs that they were suppose to do. But still get advice please.
Just keep hanging up on them until you find out what your rights are in this case. I hope you find a sweet little place for you and Gissi, that you can be happy in, WITH HEAT!
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@gabs8513 (48686)
• United Kingdom
4 Oct 10
Hi Sweetie
I will be returning home on Wednesday and that is when the running around starts I will of course be printing every Email of I have written to him the previous Tenant is doing a Statement as well and all of that will go with me to the Council and to Citizen advise
I am also going to apply for a Social Worker to help me with all of this as I know I will not be strong enough to do all of this alone, it is going to be tough
Hugs to you Sweetie
@p1kef1sh (45681)
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3 Oct 10
I think that you did very well to stand up to her. If her only defence is that YOU are a liar than that demonstrates how thin the ice is where they stand. However, just a note of caution. If you signed a contract then that is binding in law even if you do not live in the property now. What that means is that if you don't pay your rent then you might be regarded by a court as being in breach of the contract. Conversely, if the contract sets out the landlord's obligations then make sure that they cover those things that you have asked the Landlord to do and that he hasn't done. He is then also in breach of contract. Have a look at the Shelter website:
http://england.shelter.org.uk/get_advice/renting_and_leasehold/rights_and_responsibilities/landlords_responsibilities
You might also consider visiting your local Citizens Advice Bureau. They are usually pretty good on these things.
I'm thinking of you. XX
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@gabs8513 (48686)
• United Kingdom
4 Oct 10
Hi there my dear Friend
I know I might be in breach of contract, I am just securing my Deposit, as I know what he did to the previous Tenant I know her well and she is willing to stand in court if it comes to it
He is also in breach of Contract as he has done nothing to place P1ke I put money in there to decorate it, The only Place I did not manage in the end was the bedroom, I have no heating apart from the Living room where there is a Gas Fire that has not been serviced in Years, there is no Gas safety certificate that he refused to get, I was 2 weeks without hot water, he then had an emergen Heater fitted the Switch gets hot after an hour of being on and after about 5 hours the Water is luke warm
He has never committed himself in writing it has always been by Text Messages
I will send you the Email I wrote him and you will see what has been going on
I will be going to Citizen Advise with all the Emails, receipts and the false Agency Document
Thank you for the Lnk I will look at it now
Big Hugs
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@ANTIQUELADY (36440)
• United States
2 Oct 10
gOOD FOR U GABS, STAND UP FOR YOUR RIGHTS GIRLFRIEND. i NEVER DID LIKE A BULLY.. I think it is awful they have done u this way. Hope u find alot better place & alot better landlords. As i told u i just hate for u to go through another move. There's so much work involved in moving.
@gabs8513 (48686)
• United Kingdom
4 Oct 10
Hi Jo
I will have help this time moving, I am more concerned that I can stay in the Area I am in now, I have some good Friends there specially Jean, who checks on me who helps me takes Gissi to the Field when I can't and things like that so that will be the hardest thing
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@ANTIQUELADY (36440)
• United States
4 Oct 10
Good, i'm glad u will have help. Hope u can find something close by. I'll cross my fingers for u.
@gdesjardin (1918)
• United States
2 Oct 10
I would not let someone bully me like that. You did the right thing. I don't think I would have been paying the rent even without the repossession going on. They need to fix the heat and haven't. Especially if you have health problems, you definitely need heat. I am not sure where you live, but I know in the US they have laws about apartment living and rules and regulations for the landloads. Slum landloads are not tolerated in most states (if not all). You have rights as a tenant and you deserve to live in a livable environment. I would definitely seek legal advise on this matter. If you are on a limited income, there are free attorneys you can seek advise from. Good luck to you.
@gabs8513 (48686)
• United Kingdom
4 Oct 10
Hi there gdesjardin
I will certainly be looking into everything and I am fighting back
I am registered Disabled but the main thing is that I still have the original advert for the Flat and also the hassle that was being caused which my previous Landlord actually got involved with so they will stand up for me to
@whiteheather39 (24403)
• United States
2 Oct 10
No I do not let anyone bully me. Especially when I know I am right and have the facts to back me up. If I am in the wrong I still do not accept bullying one can always be civil and polite.
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@jillhill (37354)
• United States
2 Oct 10
WTH......they are just trying to get money out of you....I am glad you stood up for yourself! They have no right to try to get money from you when they haven't lived up to what they promised. I hope you have found a good place this time!
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@margerydaw14 (735)
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2 Oct 10
excellent Gabs, good for you !! No i wouldn't let them bully me either, but you really stood up to them. they are obviously taking advantage of you as you are so ill. what a pair of (now what word could I use to describe these scrounging pair of losers!!).. anyway, good for you, plus you did well not to believe her lying to you about the repossession. what a nasty pair of good for nothings!! you have all the evidence against them plus the e mails. i hope you can get something back.hugs to you and Giss, from me and Dex XX
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@gabs8513 (48686)
• United Kingdom
4 Oct 10
Hi Margery
Well I have had enough for 6 months I have had hardness and bullying of them, reducing me to tears, and all because I was a couple of Days behind because of either the rent money being a couple of Days late or because I was to ill to go to the bank or because I got ripped of by the Bank which I can prove as I received a Letter with a cheque from them
Well I will fight this out but I am going to need to get some help
I have an appointment with the Council on Friday to look at my options, the only thing is I want to stay in that Area, as I have made a good Friend who pops in to see me that I am ok, helps with things I can't do and takes Gissi out when I can't
@bunnybon7 (50973)
• Holiday, Florida
2 Oct 10
thanks for the update gabs. its a shame when people treat us so badly when we have so many health issues and all they care about is money and lie with promises like that. all i can say is some day, they will get their just deserts. what goes around, comes around. so sorry, your whole monday will probably be taken up by getting legal help.again. like i said hope you find a wonderful place just perfect for you. at least you might get away from the crazy lady with the biteing dog.