Who's side will you take?
@p3halliwel2005 (3156)
Philippines
December 12, 2010 5:51pm CST
If your son made a mistake..and he keeps repeating this over and over again..and your husbands form of discipline is to make your son feel scared by physically hurting him...you get in between to stop him..and then he ends up saying that you allow this and let his son get away with it and that you side him that's why he never learns...even if you yourself scolds your son for his mistakes. So do you think I should let my husband hurt my child physically if he has done something wrong repeatedly? I am not taking sides since both of them as I see is wrong but then I get all the blame. So what do you think?
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11 responses
@Christmas2006 (1661)
• United States
13 Dec 10
I have read all these response and comments from you. So the one part of the question I would ask is already answered. Your son is 17. If you haven't taught him the difference in the last 17 years, you can not start now. some kids, had 1 myself, doesn't matter what you try to tell them they are going to be stubborn and will have to learn the right and wrong on their own. I have a friend that has a daughter like this, she is 17 and looking at a prison record right now. My step son moved out just after his 18th birthday, because we were NOT going to tell him what to do. To which we told him As long as you live in this house, you WILL obey the rules.
I think the age is why you are experienceing the abuse between your husband and son. I know my step son would REFUSE to do what he was told and my husband would MAKE HIM!!! They would really get into some 'tussels' over it. I wouldn't call it fights or abuse, but they would go around, saddly the law would be on the child's side!!! No matter what the reason, your husband is the adult and should be controlling his anger! Trust me, I know that is much easier said then done!!! When my step son moved out, the rest of this family was very happy!!! He is back now, but still arogant and defiant and he is 36 now.
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@Christmas2006 (1661)
• United States
20 Dec 10
Hello P3, I have to tell you there are NO perfect parents in the world, no matter where you live, there are also NO perfect Children. We all make mistakes. And no matter what it is in life we all have things we wish we had done differently. Here in the U.S. it really depends on what state you live in to the way the child abuse law is written. Today I am glad I am a grandparent and not a parent, my kids got spankings when they were younger. Spankings, not abuse, although there are some who don't see the difference. We got custody of my step son because his mother did physically abuse him, when we got him, he had a broken leg.
I hope that I didn't sound like I thought your child was bad. If I did that was not what I met. I think your good influence will win in the end with your child. I can also understand why you feel stuck between your child and your husband. I have also been in that situation. I am sure your son feels your love. I also think that children at 17 are going to start testing things that they have been told not to do. That doesn't make them bad, that is the normal for a child. 2 of my daughters smoked at that age, they are both in their 30's now and both quit a long time ago. It is a hard age to raise, they are to old to punish and to young to leave on their own. Best of luck to you.
@p3halliwel2005 (3156)
• Philippines
20 Dec 10
I guess I have some mistakes on my own in raising him....you see I have worked for my family for a long long time now..my husband has stopped working and has so many alibis in finding work..he doesn't even have the drive to find one even if there are times we are starving..I worked so hard that I guess he was left to discipline them..I should have left him a long time ago. The law in the US is different here in the Philippines...here if you spank your child or scold him it's not child abuse...child abuse here is when you totally brutally physically abuse your child. I love my children and they are my strength during times I feel week. Without them I wouldn't be here anymore..I love children and take joy in them I would want to have more if I could but with my husbands bad behavior I don't think it would work. I appreciate your response and I know my kid is not that bad that he'd end up in prison. He's a good kid..he is just like a child at his age because he doesn't act it.
@p3halliwel2005 (3156)
• Philippines
1 Jan 11
Thanks Christmas! I got a better understanding now of what should and what shouldn't be done. I believe that all your words truly inspire me and opened up my awareness. Thank you so much.
@lelin1123 (15595)
• Puerto Rico
13 Dec 10
You don't say how old your son is but I would be furious if my husband was physically hurting my son or daughter. Its just not right and there is a better way to deal with mistakes. Take away his favorite things that will make him stop with the mistakes. Physical abuse never helps a child it just makes thing worse. He will resent his father later in life and then your husband will have big regrets. When a man can put his hands on a child that shows me he has deep rooted problems himself. He was probably treated the same way and does not know any better. You have to teach him there is a better way to teach a child. You both have to come to terms with the mistake your husband is making in abusing his son. Take the tv, toys, computer away, that will teach him way better then abuse. Good luck and hope this is of help to you.
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@phyrre (2317)
• United States
13 Dec 10
To physically beat your child, especially in the hopes of making him afraid of you, is child abuse, plain and simple. I'm not talking about slapping a hand or (gentle) spanking (also known as corporal punishment). Physical violence such that it leaves a mark on your child or causes them large amounts of pain is child abuse and you're not teaching your son anything more than to fear and possibly hate his father in most cases. In any case, it's not a healthy form of discipline whatsoever.
It really depends on what your son is repeatedly doing that's wrong. I mean, you need to think of a discipline that will fit whatever the wrong is besides physically beating him up. He needs to understand the consequences of his actions, the severity of them, and that there are alternatives for whatever he's doing. Trust me, physical punishment is a never ending downward spiral that effects more people than you can imagine. There's a history of physical abuse in my family that has carried down for many generations and not only impacted how parents in my family interact with their children, but how they interact with their spouses and other people. Right now you're teaching him that hitting others and being violent towards others, especially family members, is OK and acceptable.
I can't tell you how to raise your son, of course, and what you do is solely and completely up to you, but you did ask for our opinions and this is mine. I think it's hard to know what to do to stop your son's behavior, but at the same time I don't think you should let your husband going on beating him either.
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@p3halliwel2005 (3156)
• Philippines
19 Dec 10
Thanks for your response. I do appreciate your honest opinion and I did ask and accept it wholly. I will keep all of what everyone told me in mind and never will I let my husband lay a finger on any of my children. I agree with what you say here and I really think that no matter how much my son makes a mistake he shouldn't be hurt physically by my husband because he's our son. My own flesh and blood.. Thank you so much.
@toniganzon (72281)
• Philippines
13 Dec 10
Wow! This is happening to me, well except the fact that I get blamed by my husband. My husband started disciplining our son physically at the age of 1! Can you believe that? And maybe you will ask me where the hell I was during this time? I wasn't around, I was studying in another city which is miles away from home. When I came home, I just saw how scared my son was of my husband when he hears his voice. I'm totally against that and try to go in between. But when I'm not around my husband still does it and my son's behavior I think is getting worse and worse because of it. I talked to my husband regarding it and well, he said he will try to control and yes I can see that my son now gets less beating from his dad.
I tried to talk to my son regarding his attitude problem and I can make him cry just by gently but firmly saying those words.
Please talk to your husband about that and I hope he'll have an open mind to understand what you really want to happen.
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@p3halliwel2005 (3156)
• Philippines
13 Dec 10
My son is 17 and he really does things that can make you mad at him. I have tried everything for him to listen and changed his ways. I even tried telling him I would give him a price for finishing his year in highschool and for passing his exams...but no luck on that he has been in 1st year high school and wasted a lot of time, money and effort. He had gotten in the wrong crowd and learned to smoke and drink. I even tried scaring him that I would put him in an institution or in a far off place but still he does the same mistakes over and over again. I tried begging, asking him whats wrong or what we did wrong but no luck. I don't approve of my husband hurting my child physically but when I get in between them we end up fighting with each other instead and I get blamed for everything.
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@calpro (930)
• India
13 Dec 10
Hi,
If your son made a mistake, the first thing you should do is make him know that you are aware of his actions. Now coming to hurting him physically is not the right solution. The more your husband starts beating the more stubborn he becomes.
Make your son understand his gestures or actions are not right and it is not going to give him any advantage over others.
First make him understand he is doing wrong and explain him the disadvantages of being bad. Sit and talk with him. By talking most of the problems are solved.
Happy Living
Calpro
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@p3halliwel2005 (3156)
• Philippines
20 Dec 10
I did this already but yet he does the same thing over and over. I guess at times I have given up on him which I shouldn't have done. I'm their mother and I should be protecting them. I will put in mind all your responses here and put them to use as well. I appreciate your response...Thank you.
@MAllen400 (829)
•
15 Dec 10
hI, I would try talking to your husband when all is quiet and tell him to try a different approach as this is not working. Ask him to sit your son down and chat to him. I know this is easier said than done but the alternative is that either your son will think that this is "normal" and when he has children treat them in the same manner or your son will leave home the very minute he can and your husband will loose him.
@p3halliwel2005 (3156)
• Philippines
2 Jan 11
I have tried this approach so many times and we just end up fighting. He doesn't hear me out the way I want to hear him. He doesn't get my point and understand what I am saying. All he hears is himself and he thinks what he thinks is right.
@cicisnana (772)
• United States
13 Dec 10
OMG, I don't want to make you mad, but what in the world is wrong with you lady? You do not allow anyone to hurt your child or make him feel bad! If your child is repeatedly doing something there is a reason for it. He may have an attention problem, he could have OCD, there are many reasons for him to continue acting out. Being physically punished could even be one of them. Do not allow your husband to hurt your child. Do you realize you can be put in jail yourself for allowing abuse?
@p3halliwel2005 (3156)
• Philippines
2 Jan 11
Hi cicisna...I just want you to know that I do not allow it and more so I try to have it avoided. Here in the Philippines child abuse is only given to those who literally abuse their children so badly and continuously. My husband only does that when he is truly mad at my son for doing something wrong but it is not a usual thing to him and I do my best to get in between them. When my children get hurt I hurt too deep inside.
@deedee328 (1122)
• United States
17 Dec 10
I think that if your son keeps repeating the same mistakes after being scolded and physically punished, then you should check into finding out why he(your son) keeps doing this thing.
You will need to elaborate on what you are saying is physically hurting him. Is your husband spanking your son or hitting him with his hands or fists?
If your son has not been "scared straight" after a couple of spankings, then it is time to find another way to get through to him. Your son has to learn to obey the rules, but he will not learn how to behave through violence.
You and your husband have to have a serious chat and decide how the two of you will handle discipline with your son. As his parents, you simply have to present a united front to the child in regards to discipline (as long as there is no abuse)
@kodukodu84 (1569)
• Malaysia
20 Dec 10
I would not take side to any of them but I would arrange and real meeting between my son, husband and myself if I was you. There you guys can discuss about good and bad, how and why, hopefully that will help better instead of arguing, blaming, and hurting the other party physically. Good luck and have a nice day
@starlight_starbright (810)
• Philippines
13 Dec 10
I guess the best discipline that your son can get is from your husband. You don't need to go in between. You must let him do it his way. No father would ever want to kill their son for the sake of imposing a disciplinary action. it may heart you but you must take into consideration that sometimes your son needs a bitter pill to know that what he's doing is wrong. I could remember that my sister in law would eat outside the house crying because my brother is scolding my 3 years old nephew. He refused to eat so my brother did it hard for him and from then he eats well. I know it's case to case bases and the foundation of the child starts at home. You and your husband must discuss about the matter so you won't clash in front of your son.
@p3halliwel2005 (3156)
• Philippines
20 Dec 10
Hmmm...after my son gets hurt he does the same thing over and over..and I don't think it does him any good.. It hurts to see my children get hurt by their own father and I myself don't think it's how you should discipline your child. Did your brother punch your 3 year old nephew? Did he kick him hard? Did he throw hard things at him to hurt him? Would that form of action a kind of discipline one child should have because he didn't obey? A 3 year old is still a baby for me. I wouldn't hurt or even have someone hurt a young child at that age. That's so sad.