What is love when a man do violence to his girlfriend?

Precisely! That's what I meant, and you are absolutely correct. The point I meant to convey was that we can't, or rather, 'shouldn't', just look at him and think of him as an evil person... The way our modern world seems to respond to these situations just seems so narrow-minded. You have to look at it from all perspectives, I think.

Excuse me? I have not been antagonising anyone or anything *at all* on this thread, or *ever* on MyLot. I suggest you take the time to read my posts and actually try to hear my point. To be blunt, I'm actually the one who feels antagonised right now. I would suggest you stop pointing fingers, because to be quite frank, I have had enough of getting on MyLot every day only to see your disparaging responses to my good-natured posts. Repeatedly, I have said this.... I am only elaborating my stances on certain things, and not even one thing I've said on this thread is in contradiction with any of the points that you people have made. I'm just pointing out certain ideas, positions, certain philosophies that I believe in, and nothing that I've said in this thread was inflammatory. I agree that this warrants law enforcement intervention. Did I ever say that it didn't?? No. *Repeatedly*, all I did was share some of my opinions on things related to the subject, and *nothing* I said was said in a harsh, rude, offensive, etc. tone. Let me be clear on this. NO. I NEVER said that the police should not be notified. I request that you stop *your* antagonising, as it really *is* quite offensive; offense taken. Don't read more into my posts than there is. I swear to everyone here- I've been polite on this thread, and really, nothing I said was really very controversial, as long as you take the time to actually understand what I'm trying to say, instead of playing the blame game and pointing fingers and heaping fault on me. I regret to say this, but I seriously feel taken aback right now at how you repeatedly target me. I *do* feel quite antagonised right now. Good day to you.

I don't think the guy could be under the influence of a mental disorder. It's only his character. When he has an argue, he can't control his actions. It's very dangerous for girls for a long time.

I don't think that there is sacrifice in this situation, only there is stand up. I hope that the girls can leave this actions as soon as possible. This is the best for her.

I wish there are not any women sacrifice following this way.

maybe you can't see the sacrifice that i mean.. even you say that its better for that girl to leave that action, if that girl really love that boy, she can't leave him and just forget him again and again..and that's the sacrifice that i said.. hmp..:)

I give credit to you for not discerning male/female in this instance, as it's somewhat irrelevant, in my opinion. I don't quite like the sexist notions of people being against domestic abuse and violence solely for the reason that there is a female involved. Please notice that I said 'solely'. That shouldn't be someone's only reason to be concerned about a situation like that... It's a human thing... You are right when you say "No one" has any right to harm another... We seem to think these days that it's just males that shouldn't be allowed to harm females... What about male-male violence? Female-male violence? Society favours females so much in instances like these, when there are male victims too. That's just my opinion....

I don't understand what you guys are saying??? I'm not arguing or debating about anything, just elaborating on my stance on certain things. I never agreed or disagreed with anything said in any of anyone's posts... I don't see what the fuss is about...

Hi skysuccess, I like your response. Yes, we didn't call police. Because we don't know any things until we talked to the girl. I agree with you that the girl can be dangerous if we don't intervene in time. Women should be protected in this the same situation. The matters which phr4nkr4wk5 tell are logic. But I don't want to say in this discussion. We maybe say about them in an other occasions. agree?

Well, if you really concerned about your friend. You need to talk the guys to stop doing it with your friend...

This is only right on theory. Therefore I get furious about the guy but I think that he still love the girl. He always regret about himself action to his girlfriend. I only want him stop to fight her.

There are no reason in order that the guy can fight the girl. If the girl is wrong, he can talk to her, to leave her etc...but not fight.

hi Shrijsr, I think that you should listen to what Rebecca said. I know that the guy is not bad, but doing violence to woman is ugly. And this can become a habit. Why the girl must stand up this thing when she can escape it? She would live better if she wants. Don't anybody was fight other people, special it's a woman!

Yeah yeah, I agree guys! But it was just my opinion about it! May be i can listen to you just in case I will have to face such a thing, which I am very sure that I will never come across. All by god's grace! :)

We ask her about the reasons which are very small. She said that she wants to abandon him, but she can't. Because after all things, he again sorry her. He begged her forgiveness.

Yes, these are what I'm wondering. If I'm her, I'll reaction then, I'll ask helpfulness from my friends, my family or women organizes in my local.

Maybe you're right. But I feel in a high dudgeon about this thing. I hope that there are not many people to express theirself by violence.

I don't understand you. Why can't we change the husband if we must stand many violence from him? No one has power to make injuries other person. Even that's husband or wife! If your husband fight you, you should have the legit reactions or to ask helpful from women organize or family. You shouldn't stand up.

Yes,you're right. But violence is not frequently between lovers. This can make love be eroded day by day.