Community Schooling

@SViswan (12051)
India
January 22, 2011 7:53pm CST
As some of you know, I am homeschooling my kids and it is a fairly new concept in India.Recently, we met up with a few other homeschoolers in the city and in the course of our conversation, one parent suggested 'community schooling'. His take was that in the name of secular education, children were forced to ignore/ridicule their age-old customs and values and are adopting Western consumerist life style. So, his suggestion was to have local schools or communities which focused on education as well as their traditional occupation. What is your take on this?
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@drannhh (15219)
• United States
23 Jan 11
I believe it is in the family's best interest to have most of the instruction take place in the home, but what the community can do is organize a few group activities that the families can participate in if they want to so that the home-schooled children do not become insular in their attitudes. Your goal of keeping the traditional values alive is a good one, I think, but children do need to learn how to interact with children who have different values, and indeed, different behavior. My reservation against the local school concept, which I am guessing is something like our charter schools that we are experimenting with here in the US is that they end up being a bit like the the elected boards of directors that we were discussing recently when you mentioned problems in the governing of a residential community. You find that there are predominantly a couple of different kinds of participants: 1) Really good people like you and your husband who has other things to do but sort of end of having to donate a lot of time managing because of 2) people who act like little war-lords out of self-aggrandizement, abusing power and refusing to be egalitarian. It usually ends up being an issue of who is controlling the money and greed usually wins. I know that sounds pessimistic but I was involved in education administration almost my whole life and I have just seen these community programs fail over and over and over and always for the same reason. But I would like to add that I think that parent is right about the secular values thing, and also that a reason parents need to get together and discuss these issues from time to time is that it is vital that people work together to preserve their right to home school. I have lived in places and in times when home schooling was legislated out of the realm of possibility, either by outright laws against or by insurmountable regulations and bureaucracy. I highly applaud what you are doing, by the way.
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@SViswan (12051)
• India
23 Jan 11
Thank you,Drannhh. It is a challenge,though, with homeschooling being a new concept in India. Another issue we face is that our sons still do not get the benefit of following our culture or traditions because we live in a different state than our own and the we live in an area that has turned out to the IT centre of the city. So, it's more cosmopolitan. Interacting with other children in this area makes our children think in the way we do not want to where materialistic needs are more important than 'true education'. Education is a means to an end...which is to make more money. Community education in the true sense is not practiced anywhere except maybe in the remote villages.
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@SViswan (12051)
• India
23 Jan 11
Here it's a lot more to do with cramming up and passing exams. The higher your score, the better your chances of getting in to one of the prestigious institutions. My older son who loved to 'learn' had been 'spoilt' by the school. We have to undo a lot of it first. And this from a school which is comparitively easier on the children than the other schools which put academic pressure. The reasoning skills which was one of his strong qualities slowly eroded. I now see that my younger one is able to relate things better and think for himself....he hasn't had the chance to be 'spoilt' by the education system.
@drannhh (15219)
• United States
23 Jan 11
Well, sad as it is to say, we have the same challenges here and also the public schools mold and shape the students toward those materialistic ideas, encouraging the young people to "fit in" and "go along" and in my view that is the antithesis of education. I want to see young people thinking for themselves and learning reasoning skills, from which I believe it would be a natural result that they would grow up respecting traditions. Now it is all touchy-feelie. No facts, no skills, just how do you feel about this or that.
@ElicBxn (63594)
• United States
23 Jan 11
I think anything like this runs a danger of being usurped by the government - so unless you put it under some kind of umbrella you would have them trying to step in and tell you what you needed to teach your children. I have to say that I've seen home schooling do a wonderful job and I've seen it fail miserably. One family just kind of abandoned their daughter once she graduated rather than supporting her into college and life. She ended up dropping out of college, being arrested and pregnant all because they had failed to help her, they just kind of "dumped" her because she wasn't the all important "son". He went on to college on a football scholarship and now is a pro football player here in the States.
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@SViswan (12051)
• India
23 Jan 11
Well, here it wouldn't be usurped by the government...in fact, getting government funds for the same might be a problem. Homeschooling can go both ways (just as conventional schooling can too). It all depends on the efforts taken by the parents and the child/ren. As I understand, the man was talking about community schooling as in a proper school but which focussed on different areas besides what was expected by the Board of Education. I know someone who runs a school in the city I stay at where it is like a community school and it's actually run by the parents and the kids are given the freedom to 'learn' without having to stick to particular syllabus and churning out factory brand 'students'.
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@ElicBxn (63594)
• United States
23 Jan 11
all I can say is good luck, because the more the government tries to control things, the harder it is to keep their dirty little fingers out of stuff, even if they aren't paying for anything!
@Lakota12 (42600)
• United States
23 Jan 11
hmmmmm might work but then it wouldnt be home schooling
@SViswan (12051)
• India
24 Jan 11
Yes, he didn't think of homeschooling. He was talking about schooling in general.
@SViswan (12051)
• India
25 Jan 11
We do but not schools which focus on each community. Most are missionary schools which are Christian schools or private schools which encourage western thinking (nothing wrong there but they might be against the culture and traditions of the students attending the school). or government schools which don't cater to any culture or tradition.
@Lakota12 (42600)
• United States
24 Jan 11
Dont you already have schools there for kids to go to if not taught at home?
@buggles64 (2709)
• United States
23 Jan 11
I think it's an excellent idea..as long as the education doesn't become like what "public" school is now, but preparing a child for an actual job, might produce more children graduating from school rather than wanting to quit at the first chance they get.
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@SViswan (12051)
• India
23 Jan 11
Most trades in India in the earlier times were based on the community or the caste. Except for the really lower class which was taken advantage of, skills in a trade passed down from generation to generation. The community worked together with different castes. But when people started hankering after high-paid office jobs, no one wanted to work for the community. One drawback I see is that the children might not be prepared for a global environment. But I guess that won't be necessary if they work towards bettering their environment and community first.
• Philippines
23 Jan 11
It is always important to preserve tradition in terms of education. Now that the world is getting modernized by the minute, it's hard to teach the young ones the importance of our culture. I believe it is our responsibility to take care and nurture our heritage by keeping them alive in the younger generations. So i think your co-parent's suggestion is right, if not a very good one.
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@SViswan (12051)
• India
23 Jan 11
Yes, that is exactly what the parent felt. And though it is right, it is idealistic. I,myself grew outside the country and can't say I know all the nuances of my culture...though I tried harder than others. Practically, I'm not sure how community education will work out with India being such a big country and the usual examinations (though community education doesn't really warrant a standard testing system).
@Selline (22)
• New Zealand
23 Jan 11
I have been doing home school when I was around 6 to 12, that is 4 years ago. Home school is not a bad idea, most home schooled kids are much easier to succeed in life and are usually at the top of the class when they attend normal school. What I suggest is that you should find other families and children to do the homeschooling together so it would be much easier to teach and your child won't feel lonely. Kids tend to learn bad things in those public school.
@SViswan (12051)
• India
24 Jan 11
We have our own reasons for homeschooling and our son is quite happy. But what this person suggested was a community school to keep our culture intact. But then different areas would need different community schools because the Indian culture (like other places, I am sure) is so diverse. I was wondering how we can set a standard. Or maybe that's not necessary.