Senators seek to make patriot act permanent
By xfahctor
@xfahctor (14118)
Lancaster, New Hampshire
February 5, 2011 12:52pm CST
Sen Mitch McConnell, one of a number of senators calling for this, said this could "give US intelligence and law enforcement officials "the highest degree of operational certainty that's practicable." Chuck Grassley believes that not permanently extending the provisions would ""tie the hands of our agents in the field." Saxy Chambliss says "We must ensure our intelligence personnel have the means to apprehend those who seek to destroy our way of life,"
More here: http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20110204/pl_afp/usattacksintelligencepoliticscounterterrorism
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@snbutterfly (259)
• United States
6 Feb 11
These people were so not even listening during the last election. People told them over and over again this was a bad thing. Control control control. UGH
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@snbutterfly (259)
• United States
6 Feb 11
I wish. Some of these guys still won in the primaries when they should have been removed right then.
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
5 Feb 11
It truly is disgusting that people keep allowing this and ignorantly reelect these clowns without looking at their records. There are so many people out there that don't even realize that the democrats renewed and expanded it. I think they did it on a Friday or some day that people don't watch the news. Of course they named it the "Medicare Physician Payment Reform Act" so anyone who looked for it wouldn't be able to find it with a search for "Patriot Act".
I'll have to look back at the thread I posted when this happened so people can know who the small number of people were that voted against it BOTH times. I know Dennis Kucinich and Ron Paul were against it both times.
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@whiteheather39 (24403)
• United States
8 Feb 11
Taskr36 I posted the following comment to your comment on my response # 7.
"Taskr36 You are mistaken dark_joev most definitely did say that I (not voters) but me personally should be shot or hung for treason for what I said in my response! THIS COMMENT WAS DELETED. I did not request it be deleted but I think dark_joev realized he had gone too far and had his comment deleted. So somebody (dark_joev) did post that threatening statement. I really do not want to go to the trouble of asking myLot admin or GAA to reinstate his comment just to prove a point. My comment that you commented on was relating to the deleted comment as I stated in my comment quote: "The last comment you posted to my response you suggested that I should be hung or shot for treason."
@Rollo1 (16679)
• Boston, Massachusetts
5 Feb 11
If you ask me, those who seek to make the un-Patriot-ic Act permanent are those who seek to destroy our way of life.
Liberty is intoxicating but requires responsibility, it can be dangerous and it's always in danger. Liberty is risky business. But security is not worth the loss of liberty.
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@whiteheather39 (24403)
• United States
6 Feb 11
I agree that the misuse of the methods is as you say risky and require responsibility.
However I still believe that communication between federal agencies is of the utmost importance for our safety.
One of the largest overhauls in the bureau’s history was announced in spring 2002 amid mounting complaints from FBI insiders, Congress, and experts that the bureau had mishandled key leads before the World Trade Center and Pentagon attacks. FBI director Robert S. Mueller III has said that part of the September 11 plot might have been uncovered if federal agencies had communicated better and properly evaluated the clues at hand.
http://www.cfr.org/preparedness/fbi-law-enforcement/p10192
@Adoniah (7513)
• United States
5 Feb 11
Even it they only extend the three parts that they are currently pushing for, it is still wrong and unnecessary. There has to be a better way to handle this than to make it possible to infringe on any one's privacy. Not to mention trash the constitution one more time.
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@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
5 Feb 11
I don't think they should be extended and never liked the Patriot act in the first place. It felt a lot like oppression and bullying when Bush brought it out--but you know that stuff was just waiting for something to happen, it wasn't written just for 9/11 but as an in-case-of action that was kept ready for the opportunity.
One of our founding fathers said that whomever would exchange liberty for security deserves neither. I agree.
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@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
5 Feb 11
Then how do you reconcile that with your strict attachment to the Democrats in congress and the senate as well as Obama?
With VERY few exceptions, they've all wholeheartedly supported the Patriot Act since getting the majority in both houses. They could have repealed that crap in a second or, at the very least, allowed it to expire. Obama himself, as a senator, promised to filibuster any attempt to renew or expand it and did the opposite. He certainly rushed to sign it while the democrats in congress snuck it through by naming it "Medicare Physician Payment Reform Act" so only the most astute people would realize what the scumbags were doing.
@rogue13xmen13 (14403)
• United States
10 Feb 11
Wouldn't that be Unconstitutional? That would major invasion of privacy, or does anyone care about that anymore?
@laglen (19759)
• United States
7 Feb 11
The blatant disregard for our rights as well as our wishes shall come to pass. Let them know how you feel with your vote!
@dark_joev (3034)
• United States
7 Feb 11
Oh trust me I will and do. I didn't support any politician this last election that had an R or D by there name. I also made sure that the ones I did vote for weren't for this garbage acts and the Government taking over and watching our every move.
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@whiteheather39 (24403)
• United States
5 Feb 11
Saxby Chambliss is an has the right idea and IMO does a good job as the top Republican on the Senate Intelligence Committee.
BTW the article spelled his name incorrectly. 
I am so happy as he is such a good senator for Georgia.
I am so happy as he is such a good senator for Georgia.@whiteheather39 (24403)
• United States
6 Feb 11
You thought wrong! Whatever gave you that idea?
Advantages of the Patriot Act
At its heart, the Patriot Act streamlines communications between varying agencies that can work together to investigate terrorist activities. It also provides for easier and less cumbersome means of investigation and surveillance.
http://www.lifescript.com/Soul/Self/Growth/USA_Patriot_Act_Pros_And_Cons.aspx
The Act also provides increased funding for victims of terrorist attacks and their families, as well as for the rebuilding of business and infrastructure that are damaged by terrorism.
Senator Chambliss is also against ObamaCare...what a smart man.
@LightninStrike (5915)
• Saint Vincent And The Grenadines
7 Feb 11
The Patriot Act is just one more in the list of the "things we had to do to protect the American people from terrorist menaces". Which basically implies ignoring any constitutional right, or even the UN Declaration of Rights, with the alleged excuse of national security.
It seems that nowadays everything is possible in order to protect us from terrorists...even depriving us from our most basic rights. I wonder how much longer will we put up with this and say nothing.
They get us all paranoid, scare us all the time with supposed threats, and what for? to find the excuse to implement these shameful laws like Patriot Act, Guantanamo...
@dark_joev (3034)
• United States
5 Feb 11
Not really surprising I mean really a Republican join in to the fun of Destroying the Constitution. I am sure there are even a few dems in this mix.
The Patriot Act the politicans that vote to either put this in place or have voted to keep it in place are Terrorist to the United States Way of life.
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