Dog advice needed
By TheRealDawn
@dawnald (85146)
Shingle Springs, California
February 11, 2011 10:53am CST
We adopted a dog recently, a beautiful yellow lab mix, 9 years old, named Buster. And he came to us house trained and liking cats. The woman who was fostering him works during the day, and she left him in the house, so I'm assuming her routine wasn't all that far different from ours.
So doggie gets let out to do his business in the morning, then he gets fed, then he gets let out again. When Dearra comes home from school, she walks him. And when I get home from work, he gets fed again.
For the first week, he was very good. Then on Monday, I came home early and he had pooped in Cary's room. Also the blinds on two windows were bent all out of shape like he was trying to get through them or something. So all week we have been taking him out, walking him around, trying to get him to poop in the morning. And when he doesn't, he gets to stay outside with the door to the garage open in case the weather turns.
Well that's OK this week since we've had beautiful weather. But next week we're expecting rain. So I won't feel right about leaving him out. So here is my question for all you dog owners who have house trained dogs. How do you get a dog to poop at a certain time of day? I'm thinking it may just be a matter of me getting up earlier, feeding him and taking him for a walk, but I don't know. All the dogs I have had previously have been outdoor dogs, so it hasn't been an issue.
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@GardenGerty (160696)
• United States
12 Feb 11
I have taken care of outdoor dogs only and they seemed to poop all of the time. I have heard a lot of people leave their dog in a crate all day. In fact, that is what I saw an "expert" say on television, but I would think that would be more cruel than leaving him outdoors with garage access. Can you contact his foster and see what she used to do for him?
@EvrWonder (3571)
• Canada
11 Mar 11
Contacting foster was a good piece of advice!
Also, I find that if I do not feed my dog enough, she wont go pooh, hours after she has eaten. It will typically be after the next meal.
If your dog eats kibble (dry food) you will want to encourage drinking of water as well. Always provide clean fresh drinking water, daily. Preferrably filtered, NOT out of the tap.
I just read yesterday for those wo kennel their dog, Not to leave the door on the kennel so the dog can come and go. Defeats the purpose doesn't it? Well, I know I wouldn't want to be in a cage all day.
Empathy works well when trying to figure out a dog, or any animal for that matter.
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@bunnybon7 (50973)
• Holiday, Florida
11 Feb 11
im not sure. most times coco had a doggy door to go in and out. and so did Bear. the only time mine made a mess was when they didnt have the doggy door at my daughters for a while and one got sick. like when Bear first got sick he had accidents cause he had diarrhea. poor thing he freaked over it. anyway, why not get a doggy door? or a dog house for if it rains and then you can let him in when you get home. i imagine hed stay dry in the garage. tho.
@bunnybon7 (50973)
• Holiday, Florida
11 Feb 11
btw,other things can cause that. have you changed the food lately? or something else in the house?
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
11 Feb 11
although he will get into the cat food when he can...
@owlwings (43910)
• Cambridge, England
11 Feb 11
Eating very often naturally causes the bowel to signal that it needs to evacuate. Stress, usually due to fear, often has the same effect.
Walking the dog (or letting him out) after he has been fed will often produce the desired result. It's possible that something scared him or made him anxious while you were out, possibly something outside the window where the blinds were damaged.
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
11 Feb 11
I do feed him, wait half an hour, nothing. I will have to try getting up and feeding him a little earlier maybe.
@owlwings (43910)
• Cambridge, England
11 Feb 11
What were his habits with his previous owner/carer? When was he fed and when was he usually let out or walked to poop? He sounds a lovely dog but all dogs are different and moving into a new family can be stressful for even the best-behaved dog.
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
11 Feb 11
Well I have her phone number, so I guess I can just call and ask her. I do know that she worked during the day.
@EvrWonder (3571)
• Canada
12 Feb 11
Hi dawn; Good question. The first thing that you need to do is to walk the dog BEFORE you feed. Never the other way around.
It is difficult when we are all away during the day. What you need to do is to get the dog in routine.
Once you do, it will be like clockwerk.
So if you have to get up earlier in the morning, so be it. You want to take the dog for a good long walk do he can clean himself out. Then take him home. When you are preparing his breakfast, have him come with you and have him sit and stay (he can lay down if he likes). The point here is to discipline him after the exercise. Then reward him with his food. Exercise, discipline and reward makes for a well rounded dog.
Secondly, when you take him out for potty and say he pees. Praise him verbally, Good boy, P P. Keep walking. When he is ready to go number two and does so, you want to praise him.. Good boy, pooh pooh!
Sooner or later when you take him for potty, you will be able to say pooh pooh boy and he will go.
My dog goes out first thing in the morning and usually goes number one and two. If the weather is bad, she will pee and then try and go back to inside without going number two. I tell her, no.. Come on and get her going again and then say Pooh pooh Roxy. She will go. I have worked with her on this for a long time and I know she understands. I still praise her when she goes potty. Even if our walk is leisure and no rush to go potty etc.
Once you get him going in the morning, feed him not a lot but enough to get him through the day until someone comes to relieve him by taking him outside immediately.
Walk him again, before dinner time. Walk come home, discipline and feed (reward). After a couple hours (always let his belly rest after feeding) take him out again. Walk him for a good hour or so. He will likely go potty if he didn't in his afternoon walk.
If he did go number two in the afternoon, then do not worry if he doesn't at night before bed time. Likely he will go in the morning then. So here, the key is the afternoon walk. You want him to go potty (number two) in the afternoon, so that he wont at the walk before bedtime, almost assuring that he will in the morning.
Also be sure to feed your dog a good quality, premium dog food. Don't buy the stuff in the grocery store. It is loaded with garbage, chemical preservative and fillers. The fillers is what makes a dog pooh way more than a dog that is on a good quality food. Reason is that it is going right through them, whereas if they eat a good quality food, like EVO or Even something from the Go or Now formula lines, they utilize the food because it isn't full of garbage fillers. The result is less pooh.
Never ever scold the dog for potty in the house. Never scold the dog verbally or otherwise. It is not the dogs fault and dogs do not intentionally do things wrong. They are loyal creatures and only want to make us happy. There is no such thing as bad dog behavior bad bad handling.
When a dog does wrong, ignore him. The point however is to correct the dog at the split second that they are about to make a mistake. Be it jumping up, potty in the house or whatever.
I hope this helps. Feel free to drop me a line if you have any questions.
@EvrWonder (3571)
• Canada
11 Mar 11
Well if it is cool out or raining my dog wants to come back in right after she pees too. Although, knowing when the last time she ate and if she hadn't gone pooh yet for the day, I tell her Potty. "Poo" and not let her back in. She gets it. Eventually they do.
Walking is so key to letting them have a decent chance at "cleaning themselves out".
Getting to know the routine between eating and potty is crucial as well.
Common sense tells you.
Problem is some ppl don't go number two sometimes for days, where as ideally everyone should go pooh at least once after they eat a meal.
My dog eats three times a day and typically poohs twice a day.
Morning first things and then often on her last walk at night before bed time. This all depends on how much she has eating from breakfast to dinner however, as well as timing of her meals. I usually allow two hours between meals before exercise, be it just play time, outside accompanying me in the garden or a long walk somewhere.
I hope that the issue is getting resolved. How are things going now?
Please let us know whats up.
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
11 Mar 11
Things are fine. Only accident he had since was when he had diarrhea. Other than that it's been totally OK.
@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
14 Feb 11
I am feeding him good food, and we haven't been scolding him. I'll try walking him that way. Usually if he pees and wants to go back in the house, we've been letting him. I've already cut back on the morning meals...
@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
15 Feb 11
He's already house trained though, it's just a change in his routine.
@hardworkinggurl (37063)
• United States
11 Feb 11
I was reading all the responses and your comments and really I think he just needs a bit more time to adapt to his new home surroundings. As I read you feed him twice and with the weather not behaving you can't leave him outside so, perhaps a bit of more time would get the puppy back to pooping regularly.
Happy scooping to you.
@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
11 Feb 11
Hm but he's already house trained, so is that a step backward to do that?
@ElicBxn (63594)
• United States
12 Feb 11
we only feed our dog once a day, you might try cutting out the morning full meal, and maybe some exercise to get things moving in the morning, yeah, might mean getting up earlier...
another choice is a crate, keeping him in a crate while you are at work during the day, he might be feeling that Cary's room isn't part of his "home" and so can be used... we have that problem with the roomie's dog, she was never fully house trained but she was crate trained, so locking her up in a smaller space keeps her from having accidents...
and if you feel bad, well, its what my niece does with her two dogs and they really are house trained, but the crate keeps them out of trouble with blinds and the like - hard for a dog to understand they can't look out a window - every dog I've ever known had to have window access or they would tear up blinds - if they could reach the window
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@maximax8 (31046)
• United Kingdom
13 Feb 11
I think that moving house can be stressful for even the best behaved dog. It would be worth you speaking to the lady that fostered Buster to see if she has any advice for you. I imagine that Buster is just settling into his new home. I feed my dogs three times a day and they have a walk directly after feeding. I give them plenty of walks and take doggy bags with me. Just before I go to bed I like to give my dogs a walk when they will poop. It is very unpleasant if they poop in the night and this doesn't happen all that often. If it does happen I have a floor that is easy to clean. It is a plastic that looks like wooden planks. I keep my dogs in my lounge and walk them outside. I don't let my dogs go into the bedrooms. Good luck with getting Buster to be really well behaved.
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
14 Feb 11
yeah I do want to talk to his foster. Right now, I've cut down on his morning meal, so hopefully he will be OK until Dearra gets home.
@savypat (20216)
• United States
11 Feb 11
You know it's a matter of food in, poop out. This usually takes at least a few hours. I would first change his feeding time. Feed at night only then he should poop in the morning first thing. To change this time feed just a little in the morning and then regular meal at night, two or three days of doing this and you should be able to skip the morning feed. Another problem that you might have is seperation problems, remember his whole life has changed, no matter how good his new life is, he may be worried over the change. This is especially hard for older dogs. As long as he has shelter outside a little rain won't hurt as a Lap he should have a very heavy coat. But each dog is different just like people are different.
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@JenInTN (27514)
• United States
12 Feb 11
Some people kennel their dogs to train them. They most often won't potty where they sleep. Sometimes putting them in a certain area...hardwood preferably...with newspaper or puppy pads..they will go on that if they have to. It takes a while to get them in a good routine..especially if they are older.
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
14 Feb 11
I've started by cutting down the morning meal, and making the afternoon one larger. We shall see..
@ab_arnie (95)
• Philippines
12 Feb 11
I totally agree with the part, "sometimes putting them in a certain area...hardwood preferably...with newspaper or puppy pads..." That's totally what I did when I had my pekingese while I was staying in my dorm. I found it effective if my puppy had one constant spot to do her business. With that, I didn't have to clean up a whole room of tiny poops and little pools of pee when I woke up in the morning. =]
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@bikerider143 (119)
• India
13 Feb 11
the dogs trained will have the ability to be pooped in time,if the weather turns like to rainy season then you should have a shade for him out door,he should be able to go him self,as he is 9 years old and already one week is passed in your home,he knows the way out of you home.tell him free there is no fear from out door dogs if he is in the house compound.
@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
14 Feb 11
He has to have somebody let him out of the house, and nobody is home during the day to do it.
@ab_arnie (95)
• Philippines
12 Feb 11
Hi there! I have 2 indoor dogs, a 4 year old pekingese and a year old dachshund. As per observation, i found out that dogs REALLY need time to adjust to their surroundings. And considering that Buster is already 9 years old, he may have been so used to his routine and surroundings at the care of his previous owner.
When I first had my dachshund, I really had a hard time training it. Poop and pee were everywhere. Then a friend told me that all I had to do was to control their smell. Once a dog poops or pees on one place, its as if he/she is marking it. And the next time the dog does its thing, it has to search for that scent mark. So, what I did was, I cleaned the floor of the whole house with a strong smelling disinfectant to get rid of those scent marks. Then, I bought what I call the dog-poop&pee-training spray, its designed so that dogs will think of that its smell as scent mark (maybe you can ask a trainer more about that). Then I sprayed it just outside the door so that my dog has to "knock" first before it can reach the source of that smell. Now, that "knocking" becomes my cue that I have to let my dog out. And so far, no more pooping and peeing occurred inside the house.
Who knows? Maybe a trick like that could work for you. =]
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
14 Feb 11
I'll keep it in mind if we have any more accidents.
@Undicided (1)
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14 Feb 11
I have trained many dogs all with different types of problems but since this is a simple one to overcome you should be able to stop it. The dog is nine years old its just down to you are feeding it to much... You should only feed a big or medium sized dog once a day, because you are feeding it twice a day its body has an irregular digesting period that may overlap its original one that it is use to...
As for the blinds you will have to pull them up so the dog can see out, if there is nobody there during the day it will get excited when it hears the sound of a car or somebody outside or even walking past.. Dogs distinguish things by sound and many car engines sound similar so he will build up his hopes that it is one of you guys...
Its good that you rescued a dog...
@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
14 Feb 11
I pulled the blinds up on Friday, but I forgot this morning. Ooops....
I haven't cut out his morning meal, but I did cut down the amount.
@zandi458 (28102)
• Malaysia
11 Feb 11
This is my real problem Dawn. I have 3 adult indoor dogs and four 3 weeks old puppies. Sometimes when the weather is bad or am lazy to walk them, they give me extra jobs of clearing their poops. But they are smart dogs as I they only release in one corner of the veranda which make clearing out easier. But the moment they step outdoor, they seem to know that they have to do their business and they do it right away.
@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
11 Feb 11
This dog just won't poop in the morning. Not sure if I need to walk him around longer or what.
@hofferp (4734)
• United States
11 Feb 11
My dogs have all learned to use doggie doors, except this last 8-year-old I got in December 2009. I usually get up early and let her out. She may or may not do her thing. My big advantage is I'm here most of the day, and I can let her out many times, any time, during the day, until she finally does something. I feed my dogs by automatic feeder three times a day. I know my friends feed their dogs once a day at night to meet their schedule. I'd check to see what the previous lady was doing and follow that routine. But then I might also change Buster's feeding time, if you're feeding him once a day. I'd keep trying things until I found something that worked. It would take time to develop/try a new schedule, but it might be worth it.
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
11 Feb 11
Yeah, I'll ask her what her schedule was. Right now he's getting fed in the morning and at night, but who knows what she was doing.
@puccagirl (7294)
• Israel
11 Feb 11
I think it is just a matter of time really. The dog needs to get used to the new routine. So the best thing you can do is just to follow the more schedule, exactly, is possible. It should not take more than a few days or 1 week tops for the dog to get used to the new routine and then he will be fine.
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
11 Feb 11
I hope so, but it was a good idea also to contact the foster and see what schedule she had him on.