She Is In Coma for Last 37 Years! Friend Pleads for Mercy Killing! Is It OK?
By AKRao24
@AKRao24 (27424)
India
March 2, 2011 3:54pm CST
A Nurse in one of the reputed Hospitals in Mumbai, India was brutally assaulted and raped by a Ward Boy working in the same hospital some 37 years back. There after the nurse went into coma as one of her blood vessel supplying blood to brain got damaged.
Since then she is in ICU of the Hospital and is being looked after by the nurses of the hospital. Now she is on the mercy of outsiders like staff of the hospital and few kind hearted people who are helping her to have nursing and food by stomach tube.Her family members have already abandoned her!
One of her friend who is attending her, who wrote a book on her, approached Court to award this lady in Coma the provision of 'Euthanasia' or 'Mercy Killing'! Supreme Court is yet to respond and give its decision! Though, at present the lady is nothing but vegetable, but do you think will it be OK for other person to ask for 'Mercy Killing?'
A lady who dedicated her whole life in the service of mankind is today spending her life is a pathetic State, about which she is not even aware of! What a pity!
What are your reactions on this entire issue? Please respond!! Thanks !
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14 responses
@thesids (22180)
• Bhubaneswar, India
3 Mar 11
Hi AKRao,
If you have seen today's Indian Express(3rd March 2011), the Supreme Court has rightly pointed out that this will not be granted. I mean there will be no mercy killing as the chances are that those who appeal for this might have other things in view... like property.
I believe the lady will return from coma because there are several good news too mentioned in that article - 1. She has been taken care of - there are no bed sores even after being on bed for so many long and tiring years 2. She also takes food occasionally via a spoon.
For Mercy Killing, yes, I agree that on some cases it should be granted but as the Court pronounced - before accepting some people must be sure that there are no vested interests as then it would be a murder (I would call it a cold blooded murder). You are aware how low many of us, humans, can get when there are vested personal interests
@AKRao24 (27424)
• India
4 Mar 11
Hi dear Sids! Yes, I agree with you that implementation of euthanasia is not an easy thing as there are various aspects attached to this issue right from the issues arising out of emotions, out of religion, out of Socio-cultural things, legalities and vested interests! So passing an universal law for conducting an euthanasia is not an easy job!
But court of law can grant permission in special cases after considering all these aspects and ruling out the possibility of malafide intentions playing the role in demanding such an act. I really appreciate your positive approach and would support you to certain extent that the lady can come back as she is being looked after very well by the staff of the hospital and she is some times moving on her bed and she is not having any bed sores so far in spite of 37 years of coma! You aid that she is taking food some times with the spoon also! Yes these things are positive signs but this does not give any guarantee as she has been doing it for last 37 years!
I am also not for the mercy killing but under the present circumstances where even the family members have abandoned her, what will she do even if she come back to live for her remaining life? She already have spend best years of her life in Coma, will she have a quality life even if she survives.
I heard last night in the news that she gets frenzy the moment she is looking at male persons, which clearly indicates that she has suffered a terrible experience because of the rape which she was subjected to before 37 years. And she must always be under this emotional stress and anguish though she is coma.We never know what is the mental status of her. What are the horrible things that are moving in her subconscious brain?
Well it is correct that it is not easy to ask for the euthanasia if some one nearer us is undergoing such a phase! I recall my farther law (then he was my would be father in law as I was yet to get married to my wife then) was in coma for 28 days and we tried our level best to save him. He used to look at the people and some times use to identify them, but at the end he went o his heavenly abode after 28 days! This I am saying here because we have tried our level best through out all 28 days but never thought that he has become a burden on us any time!
But then dear Sids though officially there is no mention about the things where the relatives are removing the life supporting machines from the such suffering persons and letting him/her die in absence of these machines on regular basis. I not only heard about these type of incidences several times but have witnessed few of them where the family members have asked the doctor to remove the ventilator when the patient is on it more than a month or so! This is a different subject to discuss about!
Under given circumstances since the Court has not given the permission for mercy killing, all we can do is to pray the God for her, so that he would do the best to her in the interest of her well being! Thanks for responding!
@rameshkumaar57 (5908)
• India
3 Mar 11
thesids, just think, of the poor woman, even by a miracle she regains conscious after 37 years, nobody knows how she will lead her life. She has been abondonded by her own family, and after 37 years nobody knows, whether she will be able to have the full use of not only her mental facilities but also her physical facilities.
If the same thing has happened to me or to anybody who is quite dear to me, I will certainly would want the mercy killing to be done.
@thesids (22180)
• Bhubaneswar, India
4 Mar 11
Hi rameshkumaar
True that no one knows how she will lead her life... if ever she wakes up... no one also never knows how the child will grow up and lead his/her life...
You mention If the same thing has happened to me or to anybody who is quite dear to me, I will certainly would want the mercy killing to be done - God Forbid, it is easy to make such a statement and I pray that no one in your family ever needs the mercy killing thing.
@zralte (4178)
• India
10 Mar 11
I think it is wrong to say she is comatose for 37 years.
I have read in some article that her brain shrunked, but she is still able to smile and she likes fish and chicken soup. Comatose person cannot do that.
As far as I could understand, she is conscious, not comatose at all. For how long, I haven't read it yet.
As for Euthanasia, I can't say, in this case. It depends on the circumstances and I don't know enough about her to have an opinion.
@AKRao24 (27424)
• India
10 Mar 11
Hi Dear Zralte! I really don't have much idea about the fact if she is in comatose state or not! I have heard on the TV Channel that since she was in Coma her friend who in fact has written book on her approached the supreme court for this plea!
I think since this friend of her has written book on her she must have had lot of time spend with this lady who is in coma and must have seen all the ups and downs in her life! having weighed the pros and cons she must have approached the Court of law about her euthanasia!
If she is letting others know that she likes fish and chicken soup means that she is not in coma, then it is really surprising thing that how can any one approach the court for such an individual whose brain is still working, as the chances of such persons' getting well are much more!
May be you are right, as I really don't have her exact details, now I think I will have to get the Book written by her friend to get all the details about the lady and her case as now I also has developed some sort of soft corner for this noble soul!
As discussed earlier it is very difficult for the Court of law to give a general or blanket ruling for implementing euthanasia as every case will be different and various factors have to be considered in each case separately! Well the persons sitting to take the decision are quite competent and they will look after every aspect of the case before coming to any conclusion about the euthanasia!
Any how since Supreme court has rejected the plea by her friend for euthanasia, now let us all pray the God to bless this noble soul with the possible blessings so that she could have best from him !! Thanks for responding!
@AKRao24 (27424)
• India
10 Mar 11
Thanks for the information dear Zralte! Yes this is not an ordinary issue, a panel of judges must have worked on it and every aspect of the case must have been considered before arriving to any conclusion in the benefit of the person in question!
Well, there are various types of people with school of thoughts and every body have their right of expression - May be because of this , some people may feel that to avoid the controversy the court has taken this decision! Which I too think is not the actual reason for taking the present stand!
Yes, the staff of the Hospital really deserves hearty compliments for looking after this lady without anticipating any thing in return since last 37 years! My hats off to them! Thanks !
@zralte (4178)
• India
10 Mar 11
I got those information from articles in Times of India about her. According to Times of India, when the Supreme Court received the plea, they formed a panel of judges to determine her conditions. Due to the sensitivity of the issue, I'm sure they would have taken every possible step to ensure that the law as it stands and the well-being of Aruna is taken into consideration as well as future impact.
I don't think that decision to let her live was just because they are afraid of controversy, like some people suggested.
I think she is really lucky to have been loved by the staff of the hospital. All we can do for her is pray for her, I agree.
@amirev777 (4117)
• India
3 Mar 11
Hi
Its really a very poignant tale. It fills up your heart with grief. I think probably the nurse needs to be free from the sufferings that she is undergoing now. I think destiny can really be cruel with you sometimes. But one cannot be free till the Almighty gives the green signal. Its really difficult to take a decision.
@amirev777 (4117)
• India
3 Mar 11
Oh sorry
The same post got repeated again. Again the culprit is poor connectivity.
@Sreekala (34312)
• India
9 Mar 11
Hi Rao,
Now the court is disallowed the petition by saying that the person can react on seeing people. True, how can we kill a person who can react and show some feelings in face, and it is really cruel. But thinking the other side, 37 years is a long time in bed, I really felt bad on that, she showed her dedication on work and then what she got for her sincerity. I am happy to know that the staff in that hospital is really taking care of this lady. Hope they will take care of her till God wishes to end her life.
@AKRao24 (27424)
• India
10 Mar 11
Hi Dear Sreekala! Yes,you are right, if some one is reacting after looking at the people means there is still some hope left for the revival! There have been many cases in the past where people have recovered from the Coma after several years! But then 37 years of time is too much!
Now one more thing I heard on Local TV channel that she gets frenzy and mad when she looks at any male member attending her some times! This I think because of the severe, immense and intense shock which she must have developed after having a cruel experience of rape she had 37 years back! She could never forget this and possibly all these years she must be under this memory only during her subconscious state ! Just imagine how she must be feeling all these years with such a gruesome experience all the time she is brooding on, in her brain! Just think how terribly we get disturbed if we happen to get a night mare for a moment! And this poor lady is suffering with the repeated night mare like experience for last 37 years!
Some times I really wonder about the justice of the Almighty! Why should this noble soul who has decided to dedicate her life for welfare of Human kind by helping the ill and unhealthy people, be subjected to such a painful and horrible experience?
The hospital staff must be congratulated and should be given a humble bow as they are really ding a great job, by nursing this lady with keen interest and sincerity,which is very evident from the fact that she has never developed abed ore till the day though she is in coma for last 37 years! They are feeding her through stomach tube. They some times trying to feed her with a spoon! These people were very happy about the decision of the Supreme court and they distributed sweets amongst themselves that their 37 years associate will be still be there with them! It is but natural one tends to get entangled with an unknown bond if happens to be in constant touch with a person for 37years!
Now Supreme Court has not allowed a euthanasia for her, all we can do is to pray the Almighty to do his best in the interest of this poor suffering soul so that she can get best from his side! Thanks for responding!
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@Sreekala (34312)
• India
10 Mar 11
Yes, 37 years is long time. I also read in newspaper, when she attacked, that day there was some food poison case and many people admitted and she stayed more time for work due to her dedication and what she got as return, sometimes can't understand the God's decision. We can only pray for her now.
@absolutevision (19)
• Malaysia
3 Mar 11
Just put her out of her misery. I'm sure that would be her choice as well if she had a voice to express her wishes.
Even if she did come out of the coma, her muscles would have atrophied. she most probably would have to relearn many of the basic things we take for granted and the WORST possible thing to have to go through is to relive that horror over and over again in your mind besides the fact that a third of your life has just passed you by.
Just imagine missing so much in life and then having to fight to survive in our current world knowing your family has abandoned you. It would be kinder to just put her out of her misery so she doesn't wake up to all these miseries.
@AKRao24 (27424)
• India
4 Mar 11
Hi Dear Absolute Vision! I too feel that she would have voiced about the mercy killing if she could do so, after all it is very painful situation for her!
Yes you have a point there regarding the physical and mental fitness she would have ,even if she gets out of the coma, Can she take up the things in front of her!
Can she bear the fact that their family members abandoned her and she was on the mercy of the Hospital staff for 37 years!
It is said that she gets frenzy and shouts violently some times when she looks a male person, this indicates that she has not forgotten the cruel and gruel act of rape which was committed on her before 37 years, till now! Can she bear this mental agony even she survives?
These are very difficult questions to answer and under such circumstances any body would feel that she should be given an euthanasia! But in India because of many factors this thing is not possible!
What all we can do is to pray the God to do his best to make this lady's soul happy! Thanks !
@rosegardens (3032)
• United States
3 Mar 11
If she is taken off all life support, except food and water, then that would be ok. However, with holding food and water is a terrible suffering to put on someone.
@AKRao24 (27424)
• India
3 Mar 11
Hi Dear Rosegardens! Presently she is not having any life supporting things with her! She is being fed some liquid diet with the help of stomach tube, and as you say it would be too cruel to stop this thing!
yes it is so pathetic to hear the whole episode! Why this should have happened with a noble soul who has decided to dedicate her life for the service of mankind by undertaking service to the most needy, the sick people?! The ways of the GOD are some time too difficult to understand! He has his own ways of getting the things happen!
Lets pray for the Lady to have a peaceful end at the earliest to escape the torture through which she is passing right now!
Thanks for responding!
@rosegardens (3032)
• United States
3 Mar 11
I am very sorry to hear of the plight of this woman. How awful for such an assault to happen to anyone.
@marty3888 (2355)
• Acme, Michigan
2 Mar 11
Well,first of all, it's too bad her family has abandoned her, though maybe it's to painful for them to see her like that.
Yes, what's te use? If it was one or two years, I might understand, simply because I heard of a case where this woman was in a coma for one year. after one year, she slowly came out of it and now, she is one hundred per cent. Her speech isn't slured, she doesn't even studder, she recovered one hundred per cent. But 37 years, even 20 years, it makes no sense.
@AKRao24 (27424)
• India
3 Mar 11
Hi Dear Marty! It is really bad for the family to abandon her, but it would not be proper to make any comment on this issue under what circumstances they have done so! The details are not available in this regard!
Yes to be in Coma for 37 years and keeping her alive like that though may not make any sense but ethically and legally and for many social reasons it is very difficult to award her 'Euthanasia'!
It is really a frustrating and painful situation to say anything! I some times wonder with ways of the God! It is really not understood what the God has for her in reserve! He only knows!
Thanks for responding!
@rameshkumaar57 (5908)
• India
3 Mar 11
Yes, I think she should be killed.That poor woman has been a vegetable for the last 37 years, and even if at all she regains conscious, nobody knows in what state she will be in.
unfortunately our Indian courts are quite notorious in not taking any cases which can result in any controversy, and most probably the courts will not give the permission for the Doctors to remove her life saving systems.
@AKRao24 (27424)
• India
4 Mar 11
Hi Dear Ramesh Kumaar! This lady is not on any life supporting equipment presently! She is being fed by stomach tube and from one of the discussion I could gather that she can move some times and can have food with the help of spoon some times, that is all!
Yes,it is very difficult for the court to take any decision in this regard as we have diversified cultures, religions and social values in our country and no body can be hurt by implementing any thing which may have impact on their emotional feelings! Euthanasia is a complicated subject which had to be tackled very carefully!
Thanks for responding!
@amirev777 (4117)
• India
3 Mar 11
Hi
Its really a very poignant tale. It fills up your heart with grief. I think probably the nurse needs to be free from the sufferings that she is undergoing now. I think destiny can really be cruel with you sometimes. But one cannot be free till the Almighty gives the green signal. Its really difficult to take a decision.
@AKRao24 (27424)
• India
4 Mar 11
Hi Dear Amirev! Now having gone to court and got a negative reply from the court of law in implementing the euthanasia, now her fate is left to the Almighty and she is simply waiting for the green signal for him either to begin her travel to her heavenly abode or to come back to this World to spend her rest of life in a peaceful way! Let us wish her all the best!
Thanks for responding!
@Neo1000 (84)
• Switzerland
3 Mar 11
While I really find Mercy Killing rather gruesome, being stuck in coma for 37 years is really tooo long. I don't know, wouldn't the nurse be depressed then, when she wakes up and finds out that she missed 37 years of her life? Also, the problem is that after 37 years, the chance of her waking up is really slim.
Even if I don't like that, I would say yes.
@AKRao24 (27424)
• India
4 Mar 11
Hi Dear Neo! Yes, looking at this situation, I too agree with your views that she already lost 37 precious years of her life and even then the chances of her recovery are also seems to be too remote, though it is best left to the technical people to decide about it!
Though mercy killing is rather not the humane way and against the laws of the nature, it seems it is the idle solution in this case to save her from further torturous life!
But then because of legal and ethical problems the euthanasia can't be implemented here in India! Thanks for responding!
@changjiangzhibin89 (16788)
• China
3 Mar 11
As for mercy killing,It is still that different people,different views.Here in general,people regard it as inhuman.One of our neighbours became a vegetable after a traffic accident ten years ago.So far he is still alive.
@AKRao24 (27424)
• India
4 Mar 11
Hi Dear Changjiangzhibin! You are right in many parts of the World the act of Mercy Killing is considered to be inhumane, and that's why the law couldn't be passed in the court of law! Here in India also we have the same opinion and the law also says the same! But looking at the condition of this lady it is very pathetic, she has already passed 37 precious years of her life in coma and now what is left with her to live, even if she comes out of it, as her family members have already abandoned her and she will never forget the scar of the rape which she was subjected to, 37 years back! This is a very difficult situation to tackle!
Thanks for responding!