More End Time Events.....

Gog and Magog. It is interesting to trace the names of nations given in Isaiah 38 and 39. Reads like a newspaper account of all the nations that h@te Israel today...Russia, and all the Muslim ruled countries. Very interesting study. And I agree with hopefulman...it is all falling into place quickly.

Ok...have a question. God made promises to Abraham, to Isaac and to Jacob and to the prophets of Israel concerning the eternal possession of the land to Israel. Then Israel was conquered and spread throughout the world. Did God make a mistake? Was HE somehow fooled and mistakenly promised the land to the descendents of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, not knowing they'd return?? Could it be that He has a plan to draw out a remnant of Israel and intended all along to keep His word to them..after all, God knew they'd eventually return to the land, even if mankind did not. he also knew that there'd be those of the nation of Israel that would come to faith in the Messiah. Be careful friend, that you are not calling God a liar. I do not agree with this teaching. What is God, a man who changes His mind or does not know the outcome of His word?

You've just given the synopsis to what is taking place, my friend. For a long time I have felt that I would see something of historical significance in my life-time...and I believe I'm on the cusp of that now... ...Israel stands alone in the world, as was predicted. The Holy Land is being threatened to be trampled under foot by the Gentiles, as was predicted it would be in the End Time...this is the significant event as this will usher in a major chain reaction and more foreboding occurrences.

Very true, debra...we can only control what we personally have the power to control. Natural disasters, while they can be highly destructive and be responsible for loss of life and personal belongings and make life extremely uncomfortable for survivors, they don't affect us all. Governments do affect us all, some on a lesser level. Governments can have a more profound, more long-term affect than any natural disaster.

And we are fast loosing whatever little input we had with our government.

It's my belief we have already lost our input. Laws and Bills are implemented that are supposed to be voted on, and aren't because they're pushed through. Our Constitution is of little value...Obama has said that himself.

and when you see these things, look up...for your redemption draws near.

OK, my friend as you welcome every input: There are many who think that God has plans for the Israelites, and as individuals He welcomes everyone who follows Christ, including Israelites. But I find the parable that Jesus told very interesting in this connection. It is about a vineyeard and some bad farmers who killed everyone that the owner sent to them and in the end even his son. Of course the owner will punish the bad farmers and lease his vineyard to others who give the owner his share. Jesus shows what he wants to teach to the Jewish religious leaders by saying according to Matthew 21:43(New Living Translation) "I tell you, the Kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a nation that will produce the proper fruit." According to Daniel 2:44 the Kingdom of God will rule over all the earth, so there will not be any other nations any more. It looks like we are living in the time when this prophecy will be fulfilled. "During the reigns of those kings, the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed or conquered. It will crush all these kingdoms into nothingness, and it will stand forever."(New Living Translation)

Hello buenvida.... ...I understand what you're saying, and I agree there is also a spiritual Israel, however, God makes promises, and keeps them...Revelations isn't speaking of the spiritual Israel, but the literal Israel, as this is ascertained in Scriptures...and there is but ONE Holy Land and never is there a reference to anything else ever being the Holy Land. I welcome all input, as it is educating and interesting to talk about these things...and important to us all.... Thank you, buenavida!!!

People wonder, it is normal to do so. And while we cannot change events like natural disasters or nations coming together in war...we can change our lives and be prepared for the eventual judgment. God always warns of impending judgment so no one is caught unaware. There will be no excuses on judgment day. In this, I see God's justice and mercy.

I give credence to my interpretation, as that is all I need to go by...and as I stated...I do take it from an objective POV, as I don't believe every leaf blowing in the wind is a sign. I also am a realist, but that is open to debate, is it not? Your perception of reality as what the perception of others may be? Your realities may not be the realities of others....doesn't make you right....doesn't make you wrong. Frankly, I have no idea when it will all come to the End of Time as we know it...no one does. Therefore I'm not of the May 21 nor the 2012 school of thought...and I mention neither in my discussion. I'm not of the "chicken littles" either, but I'm not wrapped so tight that possibilities and events fail to keep me in the loop of life and my surroundings. Growing up in neighborhoods that required an astute sense of awareness or you get killed, studying martial arts for the 25 years...you learn top pay attention...to everything. I simply pay attention, friend... Have a great day and thanks for your response!