80 :20 rule
By ravisivan
@ravisivan (14079)
India
June 9, 2011 3:24pm CST
As per Pareto principle eighty per cent of wealth of the world is in the hands of 20 per cent people.
http://management.about.com/cs/generalmanagement/a/Pareto081202.htm
I will extend this to other areas also. I have seen in practice 80 per cent of the work is done by 20 per cent of people. Have you noticed such a phenomenon in a place where you worked or participated?
I may add that this works out in my Lot also. 80 % of discussions are started by 20% mylottians. Have you ever seen this or felt this.
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17 responses
@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
9 Jun 11
hi ravisivan I had seen those statistics before but never thought about
mylotting being the same way. Ido know I am not in the twenty percent that have 80 percent of the wealth,lol but I mylot a lot as I am retired and found mylot and loved it here. I make some money but whats even better is that I have made so many great friends and enjoy discussing and commenting and even making a few discussions of my own here. I am
in the lead as you can see for yourself. there are others hot on my heels however so Iam no longer lonely at some forty thousand points. lol lol
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@ravisivan (14079)
• India
9 Jun 11
Thank you Sir: I have not seen many of your discussions. However I noticed today only in some other discussion your no. (42...) and was thrilled by it. Yes. I am not sure whether there are a few more near ur 42....
But other young horses are now running fast.
I am able to see that you enjoy, contribute your lot to my Lot. have a nice day Sir !
@hardworkinggurl (37063)
• United States
9 Jun 11
It is the same as everyday offline life. See we have tons of true friends but we don't really see them that often. Perhaps my percentages will be off but don't we sort of see the same hand pick people routinely and though we love and care for so many others we perhaps do not see them for a year or longer.
So same theory, that although so many care and love us offline they do not take the time to see if we are doing okay as often as perhaps we make ourselves available to be seen, and vice verse.
@ravisivan (14079)
• India
9 Jun 11
nice ! dancing girl has come immediately with response.
I have already recollected the guidance given by you. I will go with this:
" that although so many care and love us offline they do not take the time to see if we are doing okay as often as perhaps we make ourselves available to be seen, and vice verse."
have a nice day.
@mysdianait (66009)
• Italy
9 Jun 11
Gosh I skipped this at first as I thought it was going to be complicated but now that I have read to the end, I see your point.
It would seem that the same faces/usernames appear over and over again but, we only see those who are participating in the discussions. Possibly only a small minority are actively participating regularly in thm but that does not mean that the majority are nowhere to be seen.
I created a task 24 hours ago and I have seen many users complete it that I have never ever seen taking part in the discussions. Therefore I agree that many are missing but they are contributing to myLot, just in another way and not where we can see them
@ravisivan (14079)
• India
9 Jun 11
what was the task. Is it an easy one or complicated one. thanks for posting mysdianait - one of my teachers in My Lot. Others are there -- hwg,vp,cth etc have a nice day
@mysdianait (66009)
• Italy
9 Jun 11
'Easy' and 'complicated' are both opinionable
Hi CT! Yup seems there are quite a handful too
@RamRes (1723)
• Argentina
15 Jun 11
It's funny to look at the examples, but the sad an unfair truth is that the principle is true, there are very few people with a lot of wealth and millions are hungry and can't feed their children. I also noted the discussion creation percentage, but I don't find anything bad with that. While 20% of members start most discussions, the other 80% gives most responses too, it's just a matter of who likes what, some prefer starting discussions, other like responding.
A few other examples of the law I can think of on the fly:
"80% of computer users use 20% of their computer capabilities"
"80% of men do only 20% of the homekeeping chores"
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@ravisivan (14079)
• India
15 Jun 11
RamRes: After reading your posting I thought it must have been told by a woman. Als ! you are a boy of 26 years. How come u are complaining men do less work. interesting. I said 80% of the discussions (starting and posting) is done by 20% of members. have a good day.
@ravisivan (14079)
• India
15 Jun 11
How is Argentiana? How is the price of gas? How are the living conditions?
@visavis (5934)
• Philippines
10 Jun 11
Your discussion is good and bit deeper... Anyway it is true here in mylot as other mylotter says.. but the big question is where we can start and where they are... those populations are just roaming around do nothing... Am I right.. What do you think the best way to solve... see you around
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@ravisivan (14079)
• India
10 Jun 11
visavis ! How are you ! You are one of my regular supporters. Whatever we say only a few will contribute. that is life and that is world. have a good day.
@way2vision (613)
• Canada
10 Jun 11
In united states alone, 1% are wealthy and 99% are poor or live in the so called middle class and lower class. Below lower class is just bad pure hunger and dyng people. The 80:20 you are referring to, the 20% includes the middle class. Of the 20% probably probably less than 1/10 of 1 percent is rich.
Here's the shocker, that 1/10 of 1% that is considered rich of the rich, probably holds 99% of the wealth in the world. World is unfair, people are unfair. It's I would believe to be human nature just to be naturally greedy and need for power.
Anyways i'm not sure if i answered your questions Ha ha. But the world is not a fair place. So when you can help those that need your help.
Cheers.
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@mrfdg1972 (3237)
• Philippines
10 Jun 11
I have read that 80/20 rule somewhere...thanks for reminding.
@mrfdg1972 (3237)
• Philippines
11 Jun 11
the 80/20 rule quite applies to almost everything. Have a Nice Day too
@ravisivan (14079)
• India
10 Jun 11
you might have studied in economics or in management subjects. Interesting. Have a good day.
@hanuma34 (819)
• India
10 Jun 11
All statements are true. Well I could say in case of wealth it could be even 90:10 if we consider India alone. Coming to other areas the principle of work is accurately predicted by you. Well, if more people work the unemployment figures jump up, isn't it.. In case of my lot discussions, responses I find there are enough of them making rounds. If more members enter the fray the quality standards may drop and members may not find time to look into all. If it is 80:20 here it seems quite OK for me. The procession goes on.
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@ravisivan (14079)
• India
10 Jun 11
IN fact a few others have also said that it can be 90 : 10. You are happy with 80 /20 here. have a good day.
@umabharti (3972)
• India
9 Jun 11
unless mylot site owners show up the percentage of active people in starting and discussing here we can not say anything ., however i agree to your point as now in India many govt employees are with VRS and lot of burden to the people who work in the govt sectors. Private sectors too have this phenomenon .,however who do not work are taken off some day out.
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@ravisivan (14079)
• India
9 Jun 11
thank u. I raised this discussion after seeing one or two amongst us posting a list of discussions -- I appreciate these people--. U got the msg. and u gave a correct response also.
@ravisivan (14079)
• India
9 Jun 11
yes. CTH -- It reveals the bad and good effect of this situation in an economy and in any forum. have a nice day.
@StephanieAnnC (4274)
• United States
18 Jun 11
I agree!
I do see the same people on here creating the discussions and participating, but that's how it is in the real world! I do see the whole 80:20 percentile thing in my work at well. It is actually quite aggravating! Especially when you're the 20% of people working your butt of!
@ravisivan (14079)
• India
18 Jun 11
the interesting aspect is every worker says so,. Nobody says he is in the 80% who are not working. it is ok. it is fine,
@mythociate (21432)
• Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
9 Jun 11
Is a building steadier if the bottom is wider than the top? If so, then the 80:20 Principle sounds sturdier; the ones who do the least have the most to lose.
@ravisivan (14079)
• India
9 Jun 11
Excellent way of interpreting. I like it. thanks have a good day.
@amitgune (877)
• India
10 Jun 11
Absolutely correct. It works in many phases of life. In sales we use the same concept too. We say that 80% of the sales are made to 20% of the clients. You are correct when you say that it applies to other facts of life. It surely does. I know a lot of them.
@ravisivan (14079)
• India
10 Jun 11
thanks Amit ! I am sure u will be seeing this in your business also. You are happy with Indian team's performance in WI. have a good day.
@pro_ojha (600)
• India
10 Jun 11
Hi ravi
I am totly agree with your world. 20% of people capture 80% of wealth. But they have a tolls to do so. I am also dreaming to become the part of 20% that kind of people. But I dont have pawerful tolls.I am trying hard to achived. If you have some idea please share with us
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@ravisivan (14079)
• India
10 Jun 11
You will get the powerful tools from mylotters. I am also like you only trying to make pennies instead of dollars.
I do not know what is ur qualification. However improve knowledge relating to your field, try to master it, know the ins and outs of the game. Then u will succeed.
Thanks for posting ur comments. where are you living in India? I am basically from chennai but for the time being with my children in USA. have a good day.
@chipesterkhan (2925)
• Philippines
10 Jun 11
when i entered the world of management, i was fortunate enough to be mentored by someone who had a rudimentary knowledge of the 80 20 rule.
this rubbed off on me because i idolized him.
through the years, just through listening completely to people, i was able to help resolve issues (with their help of course)
80 20 should be practiced by everyone
@ravisivan (14079)
• India
10 Jun 11
Good thanks for the response. In fact in management it is said 80% of the time we are engaged in one type of job/work and balance 20% of time only we spend for other things. It applies to me nowadays,. yes 80% mylot and 20% only other works. have a good day.
@ravisivan (14079)
• India
10 Jun 11
It is not that I have done some research as told by vijayprakash. this is a concept taught in management schools. Hope u are enjoying use of ur laptop. have a good day.
@neelonline123 (19)
• India
10 Jun 11
One of the basic things of 80:20 rule is 80% of our results we get is from 20% of quality effort we put into it.So we can use it any way but this was the main concept of 80:20 rule.If we base our life on it we will definitely soar.
@ravisivan (14079)
• India
10 Jun 11
Welcome to Mylot. You are from Bangalore. How is the weather now. I hope it has improved--or is it like Chennai only.
have a good day.