Philosophy, Science, and Religion on the internet.

United States
June 11, 2011 6:33pm CST
As an avid web-surfer it has came to my attention more than once that the topics of philosophy, science and religion go hand in hand. However, with the ever so popular craze of "trolling" people often take things to a degree where they should not and it offends and disrespects the beliefs of others. In order for me to be correct about this, I cannot only blame the trolls of the internet, but I must blame the (please excuse my terminology) Bible-thumpers. It is impossible to have an intelligent conversation with anyone if you're going to encroach on other's views or beliefs. In my opinion the most simple away I can put it is this: We are all human beings. No one should be trying to put themselves above someone. Whether you're Christian, Hindu, Muslim, Jewish, Atheist, Shaman, or Buddhist. You don't have to agree with someone else, accept what they think, or like how they view things, but you should tolerate them, which includes not being rude. This all being said, I rarely take what anyone on the internet says as truth or get offended by it. I would really like to enjoy a nice intelligent conversation for once. All I'm saying.
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@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
12 Jun 11
You are correct that some people are not careful to not offend. I think often times it is lack of genuine love for our fellow human beings. And often times it is pride and lack of humility. Not everyone is at the same place in their learning when it comes to spiritual things. In any interaction, it is both parties contributing. If a person is over zealous or lacks humility, the other person can do well to help them by not rejecting them out of hand. After all, we all have faults and we all mess up. Genuine love for our fellow man is necessary from both people in the interaction. I do think that many Christians get the idea in their head that since Christ said to go out into all the world and preach the Good News, that that is all they should do. They haven't learned humility. That is, putting themselves in the others shoes. Jesus fed the people, healed the people and took care of their physical and emotional needs and then preached the good news to them. Some Christians need to remember this. For at one time, they were unaware of the good news too and they are not better than those who do not know this good news. There is the factor that our scripture says Jesus is the way, the only way to God. Some people think that this means they can beat the unbeliever over the head with that knowledge and there by feel superior. That is not what Jesus taught, he taught love and humility. Not pride and arrogance. He said, not all who call me LORD will enter into the kingdom. When I see people put down Christians for the all to human faults and sometimes even blame it on God or Christ, it makes me wonder if they do this to all obnoxious people they encounter; even the atheist can be proud and arrogant in his unblief. But when the atheist critisizes a believer for what he himself does, it is a little hypocritical. Kind of like the Christian who says don't drink but does so in private. All hypocricy is wrong, coming from a Christian OR an atheist. Good discussion and very glad to meet someone who is open minded and fair.
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• United States
12 Jun 11
Very well said. I'm glad to come across someone who knows what they're talking about for once. I was brought up Catholic so I had most of the Bible beat into my head, figuratively that is.
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
12 Jun 11
I was brought up Catholic as well. My spiritual journey has taken me to many other places. I am finally at home in my beliefs as a result. I rejected much of Catholicism on the way. But the AWE of God's Almighty power that they taught me stuck with me. Thank you for the kind words.
@mantis36 (4219)
• Philippines
12 Jun 11
Philosophy: Tao (Yin, Yang) Balance to all Science: Science Religion: Roman Catholics these 3 are what i believing for....
• United States
13 Jun 11
That's quite interesting. I think philosophy and science go a bit more hand in hand than anything else. The early Philosophers were Scientists and vice versa.
@barehugs (8973)
• Canada
12 Jun 11
Its interesting you should say that! I gave up religion mostly because science and religion did not go hand in hand!(at least not in my Book!) I worked and worked at it and just couldn't get them to fit together, no way! I have nothing against Bible-Thumpers, in fact I wish them all well. Perhaps they have been able to fit religion and science together, and place them in their Hymn-book!
• United States
12 Jun 11
I don't exactly group them together myself, but on several forums, that's the way the appear. I gave up on religion when I saw that it caused more harm than it helped people. I love religion and I am very fond of people who can keep those views and live according to what they believe. I have had people tell me that I know nothing of religion, that I've learnt everything from science books and tv shows, and that I'm going to be damned for all eternity.
@bird123 (10643)
• United States
12 Jun 11
It's true. Everybody wants to rule the world. WHY do you want to place restrictions on the interactions of people? Control problems??? Sure there is often Drama with interaction, however that is where the learning lives. So often in life there are growing pains. They are worth the lessons learned. I want people to respond to any of my discussions freely. Come as you are. Everyone welcome. Freedom of speech.
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• United States
12 Jun 11
I understand what you're talking (or typing?) about. I understand that there is pain in life, it is inevitable. I welcome comments that are personal opinions, as long as they are well thought out and not intended to harm someone. Remember, not everyone has freedom of speech.
@babyEj (1522)
• Philippines
8 Jul 11
I don't think so. Philosophy, science and religion are entwined because these are huge aspects of life. We live because we believe. If you'll ask me what we believe, it depends on what person where you brought up here on earth. All things rooted in studies thus Philosophy, Science and religion play big roles. So it is not "trolling". It is a cycle of nature. Everything came from a simple origin.
• United States
8 Jul 11
I don't think you understood correctly, because that really doesn't apply to what I posted.
12 Jun 11
While I respect others' beliefs, I personally don't see how it is possible to be highly educated and still believe in religion, when there's so much proof that, for instance, the things in the bible aren't true. Also it'd mean I'd have to think dinosaurs were some sort of test from God and that wouldn't be cool :P
• United States
12 Jun 11
Ha. People who believe in the Bible also think the world is only 6000 years old. I'm sure that well educated people couldn't find that true. I love dinosaurs :D
@bestboy19 (5478)
• United States
18 Jun 11
Bountyhunter, what are these proofs that the things in the Bible aren't true? You may omit the age of the earth. I've already heard that one. Since you said, "Proofs," plural, I'd like to know what the others are and how it has been determined.
• United States
13 Jun 11
That was a joke! Simmer down. I'm sure there are some people out there who believe that it isn't really six thousand years old, but much older (even though I don't see how anyone could because it's been proven that the earth is much older than that).
@BeckyAnn (265)
• United States
8 Jul 11
Heh, I'm having trouble with religion, i.e., finding my faith, and I'll be quick to cite those bible-thumpers as part of the reason. Not the whole reason, mind you, I know some truly loving religious folk. Still, it seems like you can't go anywhere without somebody throwing their beliefs in your face--even if you believe in God, you're told you're not believing right. If you have to put down /other believers/, then there is something wrong with your dogma. I see the same thing when it comes to politics. It's philosophical trench warfare out there, regardless of what you discuss. The arts are relatively free of it, but I still see traces of aggravatingly rude flaming both on the internet and off. I have only ever held a single intelligent discussion about politics, and it ended in everyone agreeing that political and religious pundits sucked (in so few words), and everyone direly needs to get off their high horse and eat a slice of humble pie. (This was on a role-playing forum; one user was sixteen (and really sharp), the other was 20, and the other was me. We role-players have it figured out, it would seem.) In short, people: You will never change anyone's beliefs by badgering them, shoving your beliefs down their throat, scaring them, or being rude. It just makes you look like a...Jerk. Dogma is out. The world has gotten diverse. If you're really better than everyone else, BE better. Lead by example. Until then, you're no better than anyone else. In fact, you're usually worse. Sorry for the ramble, but I had to say it. Ta-ta, B.