Am I over-reacting or do I have good reason to want to change my child's school?
By pumpkinjam
@pumpkinjam (8770)
United Kingdom
June 23, 2011 5:31pm CST
I have been having problems with my kid's school. It started 3 years ago with me being called into school regarding my oldest son. I still don't really know what the actual reason was for it but, basically, the head teacher tried to pick out all sorts of "normal" things to use to accuse me of not looking after my child. These normal things included the fact that my son didn't wear a jumper to school (because he didn't want to), helped around the house and occasionally helps to make dinner (he was 9 at the time).
Then, I thought that was sorted until my younger son started at the school. Now, there are so many things I could say but the main things are:
My son has "additional needs" which the school knew before he started yet he has not had the help which the school told me they would make sure he had.
There were meetings set up to discuss my son's progress/targets/help in which I should have been included but wasn't even told about.
The head teacher was heard in a public place having what ought to have been a private conversation. She asked my older son "leading" questions about his home life and she was also really rude to me when I tried speaking to her and then was always unavailable to speak to after I complained to the school governors.
One of my younger son's problems is with "toileting" and, at one point, the head teacher at the school tried to accuse me of sending him to school in soiled trousers - she showed me the soiled trousers and they did not even belong to my son. Obviously no one wanted to know when I said that because I don't suppose anyone would imagine that anyone would do what she did.
That all happened last year. This year, my son has a teacher who seems really "flappy" and "flustery". I've been on school trips with the class and was glad I was there because if it wasn't for the parent volunteers, I wouldn't be surprised to see several children getting lost or being left behind (one of my older child's friends actually was left behind one on a school trip).
It also seems my son has been bullied. Last year, another boy was getting him into trouble. Fortunately that was sorted out with the other boy's mum. More recently, my son came home with his shoes full of mud and leaves. He told me that 3 boys told him to take his shoes off, they filled them with mud and they threw mud at him. He said he didn't tell a teacher because he couldn't see a teacher to tell.
Then, this week, they had a no uniform day at school. My son wore his football shirt. He came home with a hole in it. I asked how it happened and he told me someone had deliberately cut it with scissors (the cut was near his chest and could have hurt my son). Both myself and my OH spoke to his teacher about it several times. The teacher more or less accused my child of lying and of doing it to himself. I asked my son several times, he looked me in the eye and repeated the same information and the same name. As I said to his teacher, I could see no reason why he would insist that this had happened if it hadn't. Basically, the teacher was sticking up for the other kid. I have a feeling that the truth is my child is telling the truth but the teacher doesn't want to admit that she had no idea that a child was wandering around attacking people with scissors (a child who I know - because I have seen it with my own eyes - has been horrible to my son on several other occasions). The teacher asked the kid directly in front of me if she did do it. Of course she said no and the teacher seemed to automatically believe her. So, the teacher just asks some nasty little brat once whether she did something and believes her but my son says several times that this other kid did cut his shirt and the teacher still accuses him of lying.
I was going to call this discussion "Who should I believe?" but, while my son is no angel, I do believe him. I wonder whether the teacher would still be in denial had my child been physically hurt.
So, I know that's a lot of information and, believe me, that's only the tip of the ice-berg. I just want to know if these are good reasons for moving my child to another school. Would you try to resolve all of this with the school or look for another school?
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6 responses
@jazzsue58 (2666)
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24 Jun 11
Ah, the wonderful British education system, eh? I'd like to see the Ofsted report for this school. Either it's so glowingly brilliant the head is prepared to do anything to see the SATS resuls (or whatever they're called now) rise even higher, or so awfully low that ... basically, the same applies.
Short answer - contact the LEA for your area, and get him into a different school.
@pumpkinjam (8770)
• United Kingdom
24 Jun 11
I have seen the Ofsted reports. The most recent one from earlier this year and the previous one from a few years ago. Both were "satisfactory" and, it seems, nothing has changed. This is another problem I have (although just a minor side issue) my kids are extremely bright (in fact the words "gifted and talented" have been used by the head teacher about my 6 year old) and I have asked myself if it's really doing my child any good to be at a school that is only satisfactory. My oldest moves up to senior school in September anyway so that's good.
I think I will get in touch with the LEA.
Thank you. x
@pumpkinjam (8770)
• United Kingdom
24 Jun 11
They are still called SATs. I'm waiting for my older son's results. He's aimed for 100% :)
@pumpkinjam (8770)
• United Kingdom
24 Mar 12
I'd forgotten about this discussion. I thought I would mention that my son did really well in his SATs. I can't remember exactly how much he got but, for at least one, he got the highest score in the class. I think his lowest result was 79%.
@GemmaR (8517)
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24 Jun 11
It seems like there is a lot of bad blood between your son and his school, so I believe that maybe starting a new school could be very beneficial for your son, as it allows him a new start and the ability to completely start over and make new friends where the teachers and current intake won't know him and therefore won't judge him on who he's been in the past or on whatever has happened. It's all up to your son though. If he is almost 12, then surely he will be starting secondary school soon? So maybe it's worth not up rooting him until then.
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@pumpkinjam (8770)
• United Kingdom
25 Jun 11
Sorry, seems I have made myself unclear. I have an 11 year old who will be going to secondary school so he's only got a few weeks left where he is. This discussion is about my younger son who is only 6.
@dorypanda (1601)
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24 Jun 11
That is unbelievable, especially with the teachers knowing your sons problems, a child with that kind of problem, I believe isn't very good at lying because if I remember rightly everything is 'black or white' to them.
If you get no joy from speaking with anyone at the school, could you perhaps talk to that childs Mum? If not, is there someone who would happily speak to the person for you?
Yes, I think you should remove your child from that school and send him to one where his needs will be met. If he's elsewhere then the other school will benefit from his intelligence and they 'should' receive money for him too.
@pumpkinjam (8770)
• United Kingdom
24 Jun 11
I am not sure if the teacher is even aware of my son's problems. You are right, children with autism tend to see things as "black and white" and many have no concept of lying. I also happen to know that the child in question has lied before. I wouldn't be comfortable speaking to the child's mum though. The school he is at would be receiving extra money for him if they had bothered doing the things they were supposed to do.
I think you are right, he will be better off elsewhere.
@scammerwear (1433)
• Singapore
24 Jun 11
The school in question does not seen to be staffed correctly, or have the right mind set and directive needed for proper education, if you have the means, it would be wise to relocate your child to another school, if he wants too of course. Logging an official complain with and overseeing body, like an education board would be good too, even if your child is no longer there. Other kids would benefit from it.
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@pumpkinjam (8770)
• United Kingdom
24 Jun 11
That depends what you mean by "staffed correctly". There are the correct number of staff in proportion to the number of children (which I assume is what you meant) but I don't believe that it is staffed by competent people. I must point out that SOME of the staff there are fine. My older child's teacher has been really good and some of the support staff are great but certain teachers, etc. just don't seem to be cut out for the job they're doing.
I will find out how I can make a complaint (usually it's through school governors but I've tried that before and I felt that was a waste of time). I'll have to go above them. Something should be done. The school is getting worse and nothing seems to be getting done about it. Personally, I think getting rid of the head would be a good start but, while other people might say that others are to blame, I say "a fish rots from the head down".
You are right of course that other kids would benefit if I made a complaint. I had been selfish and not really thought about that but it would - I hope - make a difference and help stop other kids going through the same things.
@alharra (507)
• United States
4 Jul 11
I would move the kids immediately. Sounds to me like the teachers and school admin are either too overwhelmed, have no control, have no idea how to handle your son or just don't care. Whatever the reasons your kids are not receiving the help and education they are entitled to. Find a better placement immediately.
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@PointlessQuestions (15397)
• United States
24 Jun 11
Hi Pumpkinjam. I don't think you are over reacting at all. I think I would take a law suit out on the teacher for negligence. She must not be doing her job to not know what her students are doing. I mean this isn't just one occurrence. I would be making some noise about this and I'd ask your child if he wants to change schools. Have you tried home schooling? Kids can be so mean and so can teachers
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@pumpkinjam (8770)
• United Kingdom
24 Jun 11
I am very tempted by a law suit. Although I don't think I would do that. I realise that teachers can't always see everything.
I have thought about home schooling but it's not so common here in Britain as in America. I'm not sure I could do it. There are plenty of other schools in the area so I will ask my son if he wants to change schools.