Wrong replay to get rid of Dhoni.....
By keenan_savio
@keenan_savio (416)
India
June 30, 2011 9:55am CST
They say lightning may not strike twice but for Indian captain MS Dhoni it sure did. He has got out twice and that too when the bowler has bowled a no ball. Wow so did no one notice it?
Well if you take into consideration the first test dismissal where Bishoo cut the back crease it sure has to go down to umpireing error. Things like this happen and you get on with things like this.
Now take into consideration what has happened in the second test match. Edwards has overstepped the crease line Dhoni has struck the ball straight to the fielder and the catch is taken and then the umpire signals a no ball. Since the umpire was not to sure he checked with his colleague upstairs and after checking tv replays it showed that edwards has bowled a logal delivery. What nobody know was the delivery that was being checked was the previous delivery which was a legal delivery. The delivery which Dhoni got out to was actually a no ball. What a shocker.
Who was in control of the replays? Who will take the blame for this? Even with technologhy can we rely on it if it is in the wrong hands? So many unanswered questions. My friends what are your views on this..
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3 responses
@venkit (2955)
• India
2 Jul 11
The umpiring has been very poor , specially in test matches..
this is not the way that we expect the match to progress in an international match.
Even though the technology is there, its not being used properly.
surely the ground umpire may not be able to check all the delivery from bowler and refer to 3rd umpire.
but the third umpire can check every delivery and if he finds some problem then he should report it to the ground umpire, why thats not happening?
Also commentators should also be able to report the error to 3rd umpire or ground umpire in a live chat.
we should use the technology effectively.
@keenan_savio (416)
• India
2 Jul 11
It does go to show hoow technology can be handled wrongly or when its with the wrong person at the right time. If not all deliverys the third umpire can at least check the deliverys when a batsemn it declared out. In that case even though the ground umpire may have failed to see the noball, the third umpire can correct the decision and recall the batsmen. Things like this need to be introduced and it can help improve the game. Lets see if DRS can make a differnece to the game.
@ram_cv (16513)
• India
30 Jun 11
I think the no ball rule for the side foot is really difficult for the on field umpire to call. This is where I would expect ICC to use some common sense and allow the third umpire to call up the on field umpire and tell him that he has made a mistake. Forget anything else, these basic things can be done with technology, but ICC just turns a blind eye to this!!
Cheers!
Ram
@keenan_savio (416)
• India
30 Jun 11
I certainly agree with you that technologh can be used and the ICC has just turned a blind eye on this issue. The very fact that India has been at the receiving end of this not only in this series but also many othee times in the past, its high time that the BCCI with its power and money do something useful for the game. A through study on this will be needed and the ICC along with other cricket board will need to do something really quickly...
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@ram_cv (16513)
• India
1 Jul 11
Anyhow now there seems to be some agreement between ICC and BCCI. With Hot Spot now introduced into the UDRS and the removal of Hawk eye, BCCI is almost on board with UDRS. I would expect that from the next series onwards India will also have UDRS.
Cheers!
Ram
@moksha09 (467)
• India
2 Jul 11
Hi Keenan,
These two Dhoni dismissals and the media coverage that followed convey a few things.The best of technology in the hand of the wrong people or incompetent people can cause havoc. And what do you do if it is done deliberately? Is it not a disturbing thought??
India was not totally unjustified in resisting the Umpire Decision Review System.You know, the technology is available and there are countries like UK, Aus and NZ in the forefront trying to push it through with the most honorable intentions. We believe that but it would be naive to believe that the technology would be used fairly at all times.It is well understood that poor cricket boards would find it extremely difficult to implement this advanced technology in their first class cricket.So the richer countries are the medium through which the technology providing corporate companies would be trying to lobby with the ICC to quickly brow beat what ever opposition there may be, and exert influence to have this accepted and implemented. For them it is a golden business opportunity.
The BCCI is in a position of strength and would like to see that our interests are not compromised to accommodate the financial aspirations of those member countries and their technologists.
There is also the danger of deliberate misuse of technology to manipulate results. If you think that is not possible just recall the introduction of neutral umpires , it was an Asian captain Imran Khan who suggested it and got it implemented and not the senior ICC member countries like Aus and UK.
India has wisely stalled the push and clamor for UDRS and has accepted the UDRS with modifications so that fair reviews of umpire decisions are made. Why be in a rush to accept concepts put forward by advanced countries? Take your time and understand all implications before you accept. BCCI has done well indeed. UK , Aus and NZ may resent this but the new order is here to stay and India will not be pushed and the other countries should quickly line up behind India and support to neutralize whatever thoughts the Australians and English cricket boards may have, of reclaiming their unquestioned domination of the game of cricket in the past.
Chris Broad says it was an 'honest' mistake. Maybe yes but a mistake needs to be penalized.Like you penalize players for misdemeanors on and off the field of play. Frankly Broad has made too many lopsided decisions and on fails to see why he is match referee still.The dislike of Asian domination is clear for all to see but the Asians need to unite and do good for the game of cricket in Asia and the world.
Dhoni is indeed showing that he means business and did not allow the on field umpire to intimidate and browbeat him.I mean Darryl Harper's removal for the remainder of the test series. Harper's media response confirms the mutual animosity that exists and as an umpire you can ill afford such tendencies.So he had to go.
@keenan_savio (416)
• India
2 Jul 11
Hello Moksha09
You have certainly made a lot of good facts and it was good on Indias side to wait and review the system fully rather than giving into technologhy that has been developed by rich countries. The BCCI being the richest board in the world took the correct decision to wait and review before giving in their views and making the correct decision.
Also talking about umpire Darryl Harper, he has commented about the fact that the Indians keep complaining and over appealing but never did he mention that he made four wrong decisions in the same innings. Moreover he goes on to even say that "Errors in internation cricket matched were as comman as Indians eating beef burgers". It may not go to well for a community that does not eat beef. It could even go on to be a racist remark. I'm sure the dust is not going to settle on this issue an time soon..