What's Wrong w/ Newbies?

This is not something that is confined only to new users. I was reading a topic yesterday and there were several responses unrelated to the topic but addressed only the title and they were not posted by new users but by Lotters with a high user rating therefore it is absolutely not something which we should accuse new users of doing. What upsets me even more is when an older Lotter 'scolds' a new user for not reading the topic but then when an older Lotter does exactly the same thing in a later response, nothing is said and they receive a comment with no mention of their mistake. Totally unfair in my opinion and not the way to go as everyone is welcome - even the new users who make mistakes in their early times here.

I think this is a very good discussion. It makes sense and I do see this happening where I am reading something and reading the item thinking what in the world are they talking about?? It tends to be very hard to understand at all. But I guess I didnt notice that they were newbies. I will pay attention to this and recommend it myself as well.

hi bannybanzie yes I get really amused and exasperated too when I get responses that are so far out they make no sense. I use teaser titles to draw in people but I do not expect them to respond to the title as that is what the discussion is for to be read and respond to. if they are so lazy they cannot do that I suggest a multivitamin tablet and a nap then mylot. I have told a few please reread my discussion as your response shows you have not the foggiest idea of what its about.I always read all the discussion even if I speed read it so I know what its about and how I can answer it sensibly myself.I suggest people take time when they are not tired and be courteous enough to read all the discussion. For example if I were discussing the best things to use to clean windows with and the person thought I was talking about taking care of eyeglasses their response is not going to thrill me at all. so go beyond titles and read the discussion. thats what its there for.

It is a common problem to most people here whether be it newbie or veteran. Well I believe no one here would want to spend so much time reading very long posts as most would like to post as much as they can especially if their time is limited. But I think it really pays to read first and better yet in order not to be lost better just comment on short posts.

Hello Bannybanzie, I don't think only newbies do that i have seen many old MYLOTTERS also not reading the full discussion and responding which is something out of the scope of discussion. We cannot always paste this label to newbies only. May we people assume that discussion is all about what is there in the subject & become lazy in reading the whole discussion but that's not fair. Sometimes i feel the subject is not very clear & does not co realate with what the discussion is saying.

I think there are a lot of others that are not newbies that do that kind of thing. So spare those newbies of such an observation! Haha! And yes, I agree with you, It really is very annoying to read responses that are out of topic or is wayward out of context. It gets in you nerves. We can't really do anything about that because it is the responsibility of the responder. All we can do is to notify him that his response is irrelevant or out of topic. This will also provide a signal for the other readers to see that the response is not appropriate with the discussion. Commenting on the response is a straight way to straighten things up.

Just as the saying goes, don't judge a book by it's cover, holds a lot of truth because just because it's titled this, it could end up meaning something else such as from oranges to apples or even oranges to onions. Not only that, the person reading the discussion just might learn something new!

i read some of the responses and i agree with some of them that it's not only the newbies that response to some discussions without reading the entire discussion giving their comments base on the title. i was even trapped with that the situation long time ago and it was really embarrassing. but i learned from that mistake and promise not to do the same again.

yes not to mention that the newbies seem to post not only one line on their title but a one line post that dont let you realise what the heck they are talking about. just this morning i saw one with no responses at all and tried to ask them what their discussion was about in hopes they could see it wasnt a discussion at all. i mean they said something about a 16 lbs. baby and that was it! no explanation , nothing.

hello Banny, Usually newbies replies and started topic with one line or two liner. And even start few topic/s at a time without commenting back to their previous topic/s and start again another set of topic. Yes,set of topic,because I've seen newbies stars 2-3 or even more topic in a day. I always welcome newbies and acknowledge them and thank them when they come to response to my topic even with one line. that's fine with me,I know everyone will learn on the process. I just hope they will find time to read the guidelines before asking why their topic or responses are deleted. Nice observation here and have a great weekend

Sometimes topics run into hundreds of words and honestly not many go through them resulting in giving odd responses. I did ask viewers opinion about this a long time ago but instead I was totally misunderstood and one particular user in fact thought that I was wanting short responses and put up a counter topic and all hell broke loose. If the topics are kept short and the heading relates to the topic that would give the desired results. Many here are fighting for time and this thing about putting a different heading which has nothing to do with the topic according to me makes no sense.

I would think they only concern with responding to as many discussions as possible to get more bucks in their accounts... hey this happen with old members too.... I am not the exception...

Hi Banny! Nothing is wrong with them. This issue will have no end. It is not just the newbies but the old members too. For me myself, I will read at least one time the whole topic because the questions the starter may asked sometimes more than one question. Sometimes I even read the whole discussions. If i can't understand the topic at first reading I will read for the second and more till I get the point. It is easy to spot and detect if they really read your post or not. Sometimes they just answer with a very short and simple comments or they just talk about things that has nothing to do with the topic at all. I wonder if they ever now how the discussion and the earning part works??? I think Banny, you should warn them to read the whole post whenever you think the don't read the whole topic.

I have encountered responses to my discussions that is in this area. I often relegate my time here in mylot in replying to discussion (I read the whole discussion first and I try to digest it) instead of posting discussion since there are many times that I experiences incidences where I post a discussion but the responses I get are sometimes light years away from the topic. I cannot help but sigh becuase I put an effort in putting up a discussion (being descriptive and detailed as much as I can) and there are people here who don't bother to respond to the whole content or the essence of the post. Then again, I was like that when I was a newbie but I have learned so much since then. Let's just hope that some people, newbies and oldies, will have the patience to read long lines, digest the topic and respond with enthusiasm.

Yes I have seen this even with a lot of the discussions that I start on here, and it can be awkward. I know it can take time to read thru the discussions, and many times the answers from some of the others responding back here, but you can learn a lot when doing so, and usually make it to where your answer fits the discussion more as well. What little time it takes to read the rest of the discussion also gives you a chance to get to know them more as a person too.

Nice message Bannybanz. Actually this also served as a reminder. You're right, most respondents usually based their respoonse through the titles. And yes, if someone did understand the message itself, the essence of replies would be useless. Actually for me, how could someone express his views and opinion without understanding the message content? So nice for this message. For me, it is not the purpose of incurring income in posting or responding but the effect of responses to the situations posted here is more of significance. thanks for posting such message as this. Happy mylotting.

Yes that is partially something to do with newbies. That is really mostly though just a failing of the human brain or at least the brains of some people. Some people have sort att...what was I talking about again? No seriously, there are just going to be a lot of people who skim your topics at best. That is really one of the reasons why I make it clear enough in the topic title and in the first couple of sentences. Which does seem to really work well in theory a lot of the time. Still I really do see some curious responses. I just go with it a lot of the time. Of course this is a reason why I try to keep my topic initial posts as short as possible. Again, this is really something that works out a lot better in theory than it does in practice. I try to help people as much as I can but I'll be lying if it worked all of the time and I did not get some curious responses.

Maybe because there are some who are more concerned about points and not seriously interacting with the writer.I think when we respond, we are opening gates for interconnection.For as we have observed, the writer oftenly say thank you and say something about the response. So people are actually chatting while earning.So how can a conversation start when two people are talking about two different things?

I experience that before someone reply to my post which is not so really relevant i mean he didn't read the whole entry and he just replied base on the title that i put it,maybe they just don't know what to say about the topic or they are in hurry so they could respond on other discussion.

It is essential that you read the whole discussion. If possible a couple of times. Although some debates are a bit extensive and to read well you need to pay attention. If you don't know the topic, then better do not comment anything and look for another discussion where you can make a contribution.