The government is in a debt spin: who's responsible?
By CraftyCorner
@CraftyCorner (5600)
United States
July 31, 2011 9:29am CST
The government is in a debt spin: who's responsible? Do you hold the Democrats responsible for the inability to cut a budget and or lift the debt ceiling so the markets don't have fits? Or do you think its the Republicans or their extreme Tea faction? Or is it Obama who is trying to heard the whole lot of them like unruly cats high on catnip?
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I for one am tired of the lot of them. They are holding the Social Security checks of my parents, my Social Security Disability, the checks of our fighting men and women, and countless others, not to mention the functioning of our entire U.S. Government during a time of elective war hostage.
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Surely our enemies are watching this comedy of politics, slathering with possibility of opportunity to do us harm while we are self entangled.
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12 responses
@asyria51 (2861)
• United States
31 Jul 11
everyone is to blame. The banking institutions for giving high risk loans. people for living outside of their means, corporations that send jobs to other countries. the dems for spending too much, the gop for not being willing to reform taxes into a more fair system. The current president for not getting us out of a war the former president for getting us into a war we could not pay for.
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@CraftyCorner (5600)
• United States
31 Jul 11
The banks. Bank is a four letter word all right. They are largely responsible for encouraging people to live beyond their means by inflating housing far pass what the average American can afford.
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Even a dump apartment rental was demanding a upper middle class income to afford before the bubble burst. That or three or four jobs worked by a family leaving the kids to fend for themselves.
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Yes, there were some credit card high life living sorts out there, yet they were masking the reality.
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The reality was living in RV parks all over America, trying just to get by, living on Mac N Cheese, broke usually because of illness and under or uninsured. That's what ate up the credit cards. The lack of a health system in the United States of America.
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I'm sorry I'm not real coherent, I am really angry.
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@knoodleknight18 (917)
• United States
1 Aug 11
We're all to blame. It's the American way of life now. We aren't responsible and we don't accept compromises in our way of life even if we can't afford them both on a personal and national level. The government is basically run the same way big businesses are. They borrow a bunch of money, and invest it in hopes they'll get a bigger return, so they can pay back their debts and have something left over. The problem is this doesn't work on a large scale. If everyone borrows to invest, then everyone is either in the business of giving loans and no one is actually producing anything other than more loans. So, the whole country now has to run off the few people who are left producing any sort of good so that the profits can be used to pay off a loan which pays off a loan which pays off a loan. The government is basically the same way. If we spent more time producing and selling a product and less time trying to juggle money around in hopes we end up with more we'd all be better off.
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@CraftyCorner (5600)
• United States
1 Aug 11
Yea, I buy things that I need and that I use, not investment items. I'm saving cash for a new computer as my PC is showing its age. Despite the small denomination, $20 a month is still a fair chunk, provided Obama pays the SSD checks when he should. Then I buy a bare bones desktop, put it together, you get a better deal that way, and install a Linux OS.
@knoodleknight18 (917)
• United States
1 Aug 11
Yeah, you probably have a real job too. You know how they keep blaming high gas prices on market speculators. Those are the people who don't have real jobs but rape everyone else. Here's what you probably don't do, take out a $10,000 loan. Buy $10,000 worth of crude oil to help drive up the price, then try and sell it for $15,000 so you can pocket $3-4,000 after paying back the loan.
@globalwide (97)
• United States
1 Aug 11
I believe the ones responsible for the national debt of 14 trillion dollars+ are the ones who control our currency. The ones controlling our currency is the Federal Reserve which by now many have come to learn is not a federal agency but a private bank. The federal deficit is the interest that our government pays to the Federal Reserve on the money they borrow from them.
They pay this interest from the federal income tax they collect from American citizens. Every single dollar paid in taxes by the people of the United States goes to the owners of the Federal Reserve, nowhere else. It doesn't go to roads, or schools, or the military, nowhere but the owners of the Federal Reserve. They along with the IMF (International Monetary Fund) control the currencies of many nations and enslave citizens of all nations doing "business" with them just as we here in the US are enslaved to pay taxes, it's a complex long term plan by the illegal global bankers to bankrupt our country, just as they have already done to many other countries. It must end now.
If you have ever wanted to understand our monetary system then read the book "The Creature from Jekyll Island" by G. Edward Griffin this will enlighten anyone interested in knowing the truth. And for more information that you will not hear on mainstream media go to www.infowars.com
@CraftyCorner (5600)
• United States
4 Aug 11
There is a lot in Wall Street that makes it the worm in the Big Apple alright.
@elshaddai123 (3981)
• Kottayam, India
1 Aug 11
The way Americans lives they live on credit that easily spin you into more trouble
@CraftyCorner (5600)
• United States
1 Aug 11
The narcissism in this country is absolutely disgusting.
@2wicelot (2945)
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5 Aug 11
It seem there is a lot of blame to go around all of them but I think the main problem is the politicians. They don't seem to want to do the right thing for its sake rather they want to ensure they score some political points as well. Probably because they and their families are not directly affected by the worsen econmic situation they can afford to play politics with the whole thing.
@CraftyCorner (5600)
• United States
5 Aug 11
I also suspect darker motivations but cannot put words to what I suspect.
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@pepperpopper (376)
• Philippines
1 Aug 11
Every country has their own debt. I think the one responsible for this are those manufacturers who put too much profit for their products. My country is worse, corrupt politicians spreads everywhere. I blame those corrupt politicians who uses people's money for their own pleasure. Millions are being lost from the government's fund because of these selfish people. They should be hang on tree.
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@speakeasy (4171)
• United States
31 Jul 11
Who is responsible for this mess? We are.
We believed their lies and we put them in office and we are continuing to let them get away with playing political games instead of settling down and doing what is best for the country.
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@CraftyCorner (5600)
• United States
31 Jul 11
I beg to differ. Not all of us voted for all of them. Please also note there's been a history of voter fraud in this country of late.
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Also, we have a limited choice as to who to vote for. In order to run for high office, a candidate must have a large amount of cash in his or her "war chest". That means courting those who have lots of cash to donate. It has been that way for a long time. That means fund raiser dinners at a thousand dollars a plate. You and I can't go to those. Bankers can.
@barehugs (8973)
• Canada
31 Jul 11
Americans have finally come up short after electing rich greedy dishonest politicians to represent them. Now those same greedy Representives are selling the American people down the road, because they won't pay their fair share, and they are bribed by their rich greedy friends in high places. No matter what happens this time, it isn't over, and it won't be over, until honesty and integrity returns to America.
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@CraftyCorner (5600)
• United States
1 Aug 11
Voting machines voted those people in. Americans I'm not so sure. The machines that count the votes and the ballets so often miscount that there is suspicion of hanky panky going on, and sometimes, absentee ballets go missing all together.
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A reprint of a very old article.
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http://www.commondreams.org/views/121400-108.htm
@stealthy (8181)
• United States
1 Aug 11
Our government has been overspending for decades both by the Democrats and Republicans but mostly by liberals. When I was a kid a long time ago my Dad complained about them starting up the Social Security system; saying it would go bankrupt eventually and he was right. If I ran my personal finances the way the politicians run our government's finances, I would be living on the streets now. I have been unemployed for over 20 years(divorced and totally on my own for over 15 years) but because I saved and didn't over spend when I was working, not only have I continued to live fairly well and bought a house, but I have been able to continue to save. But the politicians just spend and spend because it isn't their money, it is ours and they just want power and to get re-elected.
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@naija4real (1291)
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31 Jul 11
The latest news just released from the newsmedida shows the two parties that is democrat and republican have reached an agreements in most areas. and they are now trying to open up the govt business.
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@CraftyCorner (5600)
• United States
1 Aug 11
I hope that is true. Dear God I hope that's true and the bus doesn't stall over no caterpillar sized speed bumps.
@Jacruz25 (1124)
• Philippines
1 Aug 11
According to what I read, the US economy is growing slowly even though exports are high. They say that the problem is the american people because still there are many unemployed and most people in the united states are afraid to buy something which means there's not much business going on and many companies tend to limit their employees because of low earning. Actually there's no one to be blame. I'm not an american abut somehow i'm interested reading news especially economics..
@CraftyCorner (5600)
• United States
1 Aug 11
Once bit, the American has become very shy. There has also sprouted a swap culture here, "I'll swap you a strawberry jam for a pear jelly...".
@francesca5 (1344)
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31 Jul 11
This is a very interesting issue, but i feel a bit naughty commenting so quickly when I don't even live in the US.
However, in the newspapers I read the tea party gets the blame.
though i actually blame our chancellor of the exchequer here in the uk, as he made the decision to try and cut the structural deficit completely over four years, which was very quickly, and i think he just encouraged your right wing american politicians to do the same.
while now here in the uk growth is stalling, and we are looking like our economy is going to be like the japanese and have a long period of low growth high inflation stagflation.
this sort of brinkmanship is really no way to run a country. though i was reading the new york times this morning, and in a strange way you might get a better compromise on how to solve the problems of your economy out of this in the end, than we have got, where a coalition that never put its economic programme to the election has done something that will probably end up being a disaster.
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@CraftyCorner (5600)
• United States
31 Jul 11
The UK has the added problem of a power shortage too. Both nations, the UK and the US, seem to have leaders that seem to have leaders who run around like chickens with a bad case of fleas.