Obama Exports Jobs!
By ParaTed2k
@ParaTed2k (22940)
Sheboygan, Wisconsin
August 8, 2011 6:57am CST
Now that the space shuttle program has been retired, and there is no current vehicle for going to space, the Obama administration has opted to contract with Russia for our space travel needs.
In other words, Obama has exported all the space travel jobs to Russia.
Thanks a lot Obama!!
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14 responses
@GardenGerty (160626)
• United States
8 Aug 11
This has seemed to be an ongoing trend. He is against and down on some of the best things we do in the US. Will not even come to Kansas, and keeps trying to put corporate jets out of business, when that is a big part of the industry in Wichita,Ks. We are not amused. At all.
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
8 Aug 11
Did you notice he had no problem with people flying to his birthday bash in private jets?
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
8 Aug 11
If he gave a $hit about the American worker he would have sold off chunks of NASA to private businesses here who are more fiscally responsible and could get us into space cheaper. Instead he took the lazy way out and subcontracted to a country who just last week called us a parasite despite the fact that we sent them $68,000,000 in aid each year.
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
8 Aug 11
The shuttle program, which was scheduled for mandatory retirement in 2011, saw the final launch with Atlantis launching on July 8, 2011, in accord with the directives President George W. Bush issued on January 14, 2004 in his Vision for Space Exploration. http://www.nasa.gov/missions/solarsystem/bush_vision.html
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
8 Aug 11
Yawn, yes, the shuttle program's retirement was set by Prs. Bush. Happy now.
The fact that NASA and the US companies capable of taking on the mission were snubbed by Prs. Obama, is solely the decision of Prs. Obama.
The fact that no Prs. since the 70s has given any thought to a replacement for the shuttle is the fault of each of the presidents.
Happy now? :~D
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@Chiang_Mai_boy (3882)
• Thailand
9 Aug 11
"The fact that NASA and the US companies capable of taking on the mission were snubbed by Prs. Obama, is solely the decision of Prs. Obama."
I think Space X would be surprised and chagrined by your ignorance of the true facts.
@knoodleknight18 (917)
• United States
8 Aug 11
Yeah, it is what other big businesses have been doing. Had he contracted it with private industries who says they wouldn't have outsourced it. Investing billions in research to send people to the moon is nifty, but it's not really profitable. Complain that the country needs to be run like a business, but the first move that models big business in American and everyone flips out. Russia is the only other country and probably entity that has a space program. If it saves billions in tax dollars and we still get what we need what's the problem.
If you're so for capitalism, make a better space program and buy the contract from Russia.
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
8 Aug 11
Actually, there are companies in the US that are ready and willing to do it.
@knoodleknight18 (917)
• United States
9 Aug 11
Ok, Russia isn't the only other place with a space program. It was obviously and overstatement. But looking at your chart US is leading and Russia is the only country coming close to our space capabilities.
I'm all for keeping jobs in America but in this case I'm not so upset. After doing a little research, the NASA employees will be rehired by Russia. I can't find much detail, but if Russia is willing to share part of the cost of an 18 billion dollar project I'm all for it.
As far as the private sectors go. There is a limited amount of sub contracting and satellite related work. But as far as developing the capability of going to Mars I really don't see the private sector doing that. The cost is such only governments can really afford it. There isn't exactly much on the demand side for getting to mars, so who wants to invest 18 billion in a 10 year project that might not pay off with anything.
@estherlou (5015)
• United States
8 Aug 11
That's not the worst of it. The space shuttle system was the biggest buyer of the helium in Texas. Now, the government is thinking about selling all of our helium. That would mean,instead of using our own supply of helium, we would have to buy it to supply hospitals and other businesses that commonly use helium.
@estherlou (5015)
• United States
8 Aug 11
I have a friend who is 2nd in command at our helium plant here in Amarillo, Texas. It's not a done deal yet, but is the newest scuttlebut. The government is thinking of privatising our helium, which means whoever had control of it would be selling it back to us. Something to watch for. Hope the rumor mill is wrong this time.
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
8 Aug 11
Oh, I thought you meant he was making it so we'd have to buy helium from other countries. If all he's doing is privatizing it, I have no problem with that.
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
8 Aug 11
So Obama is outsourcing helium instead of using our resources here in the US?
Democrats have surrendered their claim on "buy American first".. it's just a lie from the pathetic excuse for a party.
@Chiang_Mai_boy (3882)
• Thailand
9 Aug 11
You need to do a bit more research before you vent. The President's policy is and should be to shift the possibly profitable business of low orbit space flight to the private sector and get the government out of what should be private business.
Are you advocating a socialist policy of government domination and usurpation of the private sector?
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
9 Aug 11
How is Obama paying the Russian government moving to the "private sector".
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
9 Aug 11
Don't fall so much for your hate for me that you ignore the point.
@Chiang_Mai_boy (3882)
• Thailand
9 Aug 11
The Russian involvement is an interim measure while the private sector in the United States gears up to take this business. Don't fall so much in love with your hate that you are blind to the facts. There is much that Obama can be criticized for but this policy is positive for the country and the American business community.
@dont_pick_your_nose (2279)
• Australia
9 Aug 11
That's sad to hear. I think that the Russian's have always been further advanced than the Americans in space travel so this might not be such a bad thing. And i don't think it would mean that all the rocket scientist and engineers would have lost their jobs and were more likely to have been transfered to where the services could be appreciated.
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
9 Aug 11
What other country ever landed on the moon, or had a reusable space vehicle?
NONE!
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
9 Aug 11
Dude, you're stuck in the 70's. We've been way ahead of the Russians for decades when it comes to space exploration. As Ted pointed out, they haven't even landed on the moon.
If you think those rocket scientists would be fine, perhaps you should look at what happened to rocket scientists in Russia when their economy crumbled. Many of them went from government work to creating the worst computer viruses on the planet. Some make millions infecting computers with their handywork. They've learned that it is the most lucrative way to use their skill in a bad economy. Others sold secrets to other countries. These are powerful people who will find ways to earn money if their chosen profession ceases to exist. An unemployed rocket scientist is a dangerous thing.
@BalthasarTheRat (656)
• United States
9 Aug 11
Well the Russians (Soviets) had a Space Shuttle as well but I don't think it worked out so well.
{Just fact checking you}
@kenzie45230 (3560)
• United States
8 Aug 11
No surprise. Take the one thing that made us stand out for years and give it away rather than having the private sector give it a shot. Obama wants America to fail.
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@andy77e (5156)
• United States
8 Aug 11
I'm not entirely opposed to this. If Russia can get what we need done, for a fraction of the cost, can you really be opposed to saving us billions of dollars?
I am not.
Now granted, I'm assuming they can do it as well as we could, and that may not be the case.
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
8 Aug 11
It's a national embarrassment, as is that lump of pus Obama. He needs to be excised like the cancerous tumor he is.
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
8 Aug 11
If he's too big a coward to run a space oriented NASA, then that is what the private sector is for.
He's doing exactly what the companies that have exported jobs does, but of course, his worshipers will support him because they are as vile and diseased as he is.
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@BalthasarTheRat (656)
• United States
9 Aug 11
Obama was damned if he did and damned if he didn't. It was either run up LOTS of government spending to keep the space program or take the lowest bid to save billions. Either way a HATER is going to attack him. And let's not forget this plan has been in place all the way back to Clinton (the dismantling our own space program part), so blaming all this on Obama is a stretch.
Now what America has done wrong is assume Russia can do a better job than an American owned company even if it had to start from scratch a couple years ago to be ready for this contract. We knew this was coming and yet did not promote the growth of a private sector space program. Shame shame. But again, not all Obama's fault.
Free enterprise ensures some of our jobs go overseas. Our job as active citizens is to buy American where possible and promote American business. Toward this end, I fear you are right that Obama has not done enough, but you can't lay all of this on him.
Everyone who has ever said the Federal government is too big is also to blame here.
Scarey, huh?