Why i dislike Mahatma Gandhi.
By shibham
@shibham (16977)
India
September 5, 2011 10:49am CST
Here are just 5 reasons why i dislike Mahatama Gandhi. If you can counter me with authenticate data, then i shall change my view considering your counters.
R.1.. he declared non co operation movement against British but after Chouri choura massacre he stopped his movement. why? where as more than 200 general cultivators were punished and more than 10 was hanged. why?
R.2.. he wished to help British on World war 1 by Indian force where as he knew that its a war of violence but how he dared to tell that he is a fighter without violence?
R.3.. when Jatindra nath Das died for hunger strike after 63 days on jail ( bhagat singh and others were his co prisoners) and Gandhi declared his sacrificed as " diabolical murder". why?
R.4.. Gandhi's verse after Bhagat Singh's death... " Bhagat Singh worship has done and is doing incalculable harm to the country. The result is goondaism and degradation whenever this made worship is being performed"
R.5.. In 1937, British introduced " communal division" among Hindu and Islam and Indian National Cogress was agree with it but it was a strategy by British. Gandhi easily accepted it but Subhash Bose requested them from Europe but all neglected even Gandhi and as a result we are divided into three parts India, Bangladesh and Pakistan. Actually Hindu-Muslim conflict was planned by British and Mahatma and his group fueled it.
I have more reasons to put here but limited space. Sorry friends.
Your comments please. Ready to accept your support and encounter.
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17 responses
@thanks1961 (7035)
• India
6 Sep 11
Few months back I read some lines written by the brother of the killer of Gandhi. We all are not witness of anything happened at that time and I don't have the faith in the history, because whatever is written in the history books are 'prepared', 'edited', and 'authorised' to publish. And it is not necessary that all that written in the history books are true and correct. Whatever is the FACT is fact and that ever come in front of the public. Now, it is the need of the time to 'protect' all and everything, everybody.
If you get some time, refer the writings/interviews published in the net about the killer of Gandhi or the associated articles. So that you can get still more clear pictures for what you want to rite or what you are going to establish. We need to accept that politics is politics and it has no boundaries in time or person. Politics is not just child play and the ordinary people can't get into it.
Thank-s
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@shibham (16977)
• India
6 Sep 11
Well, we were not the citizen at that time but here i am raising some points that history can be correct.
1. Manini chatterjee wrote a book on Chittagong revolution and she is the DIL of Kalpana Dutta who was a member of that revolution and was alive till she meets her DIL.
2. "Why i am an atheist"... a book written by Bhagat singh is enough to expose the truth.
3. "In search of freedom" this is a book with real facts.
4. more than 100s revolutionaries were alive after Independence and they shared their thoughts in many books. They all were transported to Celluler jail. So their informations cant be fake. I have read some of them.
and there are many more books which are not historical book but autobiography of some fighters.
Anyway, i respect your thought.
@thanks1961 (7035)
• India
7 Sep 11
From the child hood it was a nice story and I have imaginations on the story and have made a lots of dreams assuming all that are happened. But now, when considered it as a themetic story filled with a lots of fundamental life guidance, I think those who wish to be live like a good human being, the reading and teaching of these books are worth and beyond that I have not hope. In short, there are a lot of good resources we can adopt from it, especially in the fast moving days, if we stuck on it and adopt certain words and act accordingly, we may get purified mind. Which doesn't mean that nothing beyond that.
Thank-s
@sudiptacallingu (10879)
• India
12 Sep 11
Hi Shibam
I have no authenticated historical data but my dislike for Gandhi is as strong as yours. Many incidents in India’s struggle for independence show that Gandhi was scared of Muslims and he always tried to appease them… I searched the net and came across the news that while in South Africa, he was once beaten black and blue by some local Muslims for saying something against their religion…since then, he has always supported Muslims and tried to buy peace with them. Even when initially some Muslims were openly advocating their communal colours, Gandhi never opposed them publicly. I think this was one of the main reasons of Hindu-Muslim riots and Jinnah’s soaring ambitions. Even today, this legacy is being carried on. Hindus are expected to follow every norm and regulation while Muslims are exempt coz either they are a minority or it’s their ‘personal & religious issue’…such types of double-standard always fosters hatred and mistrust and divides the nation on communal lines.
Secondly, most of his movements were his personal experimentations with himself…in the absence of other leaders, he just successfully imposed them on the people. He had no control over Nehru’s ambition or any political vision or willpower to politically fight communalism. His image of a simple man in loincloth, caught on the fancy of India’s rural poor (who were more in number) than the educated urban population. Even today, we have this hypocrisy of saluting poverty when we surreptitiously covert wealth… I think this collective contradiction in the nation’s psyche because of Gandhi’s time.
His movements for the lower class people ‘harijan’ did not have any lasting impact on society even though he made the inmates of his ashram wash the soiled toilets themselves, to share the feelings of the harijans when they washed other people’s toilets. I believe projecting Aambedkar as the educated, socially acclaimed & respected harijan would have had much better impact for the improvement of these people.
Gandhi started the system of sycophancy which is the bane of India today. He could not tolerate anybody who went against his principles…hence he had no place for patriots like Netaji and Bhagat Singh. Initially Nehru supported him as he needed Gandhi’s mass appeal…at the opportune moment however, Nehru showed his true colours and Gandhi was left nursing his ego in Calcutta.
Lastly, his greatest failure must be in failing to prevent partition…instead of hauling him up for that, generations of Indians have grown up studying in the history books that we got our independence only because of Gandhi’s peaceful non-cooperation…absolute lie and a great injustice and insult to the thousands of brave martyrs who laid down their lives for their motherland.
History of independent India is based on a pack of lies of what only Gandhi and Nehru did for the nation…we’ve managed to obliterate almost everybody else! What else do you think happens to a nation whose foundation is on falsehood than the condition India is in today! And look at the Nehru family, old sins indeed have long shadows!
At least nowadays people ARE questioning Gandhi and Nehru’s character and contribution…I hope our children use the internet more and more to know the truth and resurrect the true patriots from their obscure graves.
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@shibham (16977)
• India
13 Sep 11
When i was a teen ager, i respect Gandhi as a god but later when i have read about Bhagat Singh, Chandrasekhar Azad, Ras behari Bose, Subhash Bose, Surya Sen... then i came to know that Gandhi had nothing role in Independent India rather he had a prominent role on Divide India. He always ran for fasting but in the meantime the govt was ruling over India with their fatal dictatorial. British never listened to Gnadhi but they were busy after the revolutionaries. Later some agreements were made by both parties and Gandhi was made fool by British all and every time. Just three points here...
1. Raolat law... Gnadhi helped British by Indiand on world war 1 thinking that they will be so kind later on but after world war British introduced Raolat law. You better know its effect.
2. Simon commission... where the hell Gandhi was when this commission came to India and most members of Hindustan Republican Association protested and even senior leader Lala Lajpat Rai were brutally beaten.
3 Gandhi- Irwin pact... a never forgotten strategy which killed many young revolutionaries.
I always wonder where as at that time Celluler Jail was the main jail for Bristish, then why Gandhi was not kept there for once in his life ( he was jailed more than 5 times in his life) why?
will told you the reason someday.
So, visions has changed and we new generation should enlighten in history and bring out our real heroes.
thanks again.
@Sreekala (34312)
• India
6 Sep 11
Hi Shibham,
I think I taught in school about his positive side only, like he sacrificed many things for us, he led non violence method to get freedom for India etc. Later I heard it from somebody, the killer of him argued and criticized much about Gandhi as he was the only reason to divide the country. I think I have to study more or I do more research on the same to give a clear opinion. Right now my history is so poor …
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@sudiptacallingu (10879)
• India
12 Sep 11
hi kala
History will not help you as all history books taught in schools teach the same adulatory lies about Gandhi and Nehru…right after independence, it has been a central education policy to indoctrinate the students so much that we forget about everybody else except Nehru and Gandhi
@sagnik42 (3592)
• India
6 Sep 11
I did not like Gandhi when I was a child. It was mainly because I was fond of war and Gandhi didn't really support that. I was a fan of Subhash Chandra Bose and is still my idol.
Since I have grown up I have heard a lot more about Gandhi. Sure Gandhi had his flaws, some big ones which tore the nation apart. But, that doesn't mean someone can take away the things which he accomplished.
No one before Gandhi could unite India like he did. The poor and the rural people were the backbone of this state and for the first time Gandhi was able to unite them as one. I do not think there was anyone who could have been more successful than Gandhi in uniting such a diversified country.
I can't remember of any struggle before Gandhi which got the backing of the more than 90% rural and poor people this country had.
Gandhi as well as the Congress played a big role in the division of the country. But I am not sure it was so much as Gandhi's doing as much as some of the power loving politicians in the Congress at that time. Gandhi just didn't speak out.
Gandhi should be condemned for that, but in my opinion he deserves a lot of the respect he got. There is a reason why everybody listened to him and even people like Netaji, consulted him and took his advice. He had his differences from Gandhi, but he was held Gandhi in high regard.
To me Gandhi was the best politician I have ever heard of.
@Professor2010 (20162)
• India
6 Sep 11
Shibham beta
I respect him for his + side and dislike for the -ve side of his life..
It is he who is responsible for the riots etc..
Thanks for sharing in details
Best of luck.
Professor
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@abhijitkd (92)
• India
13 Sep 11
I also agree m. gandhi is responsible for terrorist attacks on Indians. this gandhi family is not done anything good for this country. they only do one thing best "drama" (nautanky).
@padu19 (1441)
• India
12 Sep 11
As we all know, it is not only Gandhi who fought for the nation. But for some reason, it was explicitly declared that Gandhi was the father of the nation. I would definitely blame Gandhi for having split India into 3 such nations for no reason. Had this not happened, we might not be facing such bomb blasts in delhi and mumbai. We would have been united!
@shibham (16977)
• India
12 Sep 11
What ever the communal riots are uprising day by days... Gandhi was the most responsible for it. After Noakhali massacre he immediately decided divide Indian according to religions but it's effect is still running and gandhi is no more to watch what we are suffering. So sad.
Thanks for the response.
@lovinangelsinstead21 (36850)
• Pamplona, Spain
6 Sep 11
Hiya shibs,
First of all being British the only thing I know about Gandhi is the Film they made about him the last one that is starring Ben Kingsley I think it was.
Actually I have not been able to see tis Film the whole way through either so what he did wrong or right I cannot judge.
Having read all of this I would agree with "thesids" what he last posted on him somewhere halfway down the page at the moment.
I don´t think that I can say he was good or bad as you all know about him and I don´t I admit that for me he was somebody as I saw him in the Film the bits I saw at least.
What I can tell you is that when we were at School say age seven upwards we had Indian Children and Pakistani Children in our Class and we never fought with each other although we did not mix outside the School as such we did mix in the Class and I think that is very important most of all.
We never felt any dislike towards each other.
How can I describe it? We just all got on well together.
I had a lot of Friends who were from India and Pakistan mainly the Girls oddly enough there were not many Boys at that time either.
One like Pravin Patel super intelligent in everything I can think of surely went to University many years afterwards.
I used to share my toast with Gadshu in the Mornings in the Cloakroom where we used to take refuge from the extreme cold in Winter.
I used to make that Toast myself and put an extra piece in for just in case.
What I am trying to say is being completely ignorant about him or what he might have done me and Gadshu never talked or knew anything like that we just shared the toast and just talked Girl things that´s it really.
When you are Children you don´t know about Politics and its implications in the World.
This is an oddball response I now know that bapu means Father from what I can read here I did not know about that before.
I am still seeing Gandhi as I did in the Film but now not so much as I know a bit more about him be it good or bad I know a bit more.xxx
@thesids (22180)
• Bhubaneswar, India
5 Sep 11
Hi Mamu
Well, so finally it is out now...
I never have appreciated Gandhi or his hypocracy... He was highly egoistic, and the worst enemy of India. The Corruption, the illiteracy, the Indo-Pak relations, the communal divide are all his doings and it is his faults that we are still repaying and generations to come will continue...
Jai Congress and Jai Gandhi... that thing has ruined and blindfolded many who will never see the negatives. I might be severely negged on this but being a student of Indian Politics and History, I know where the faults were. They did everything only to satisfy themselves and make such situations that people would only know about them... from educational curriculum to media - everything has been manipulated to suite them and also favor them
@shibham (16977)
• India
6 Sep 11
Hi mamu... For you an another information i wish to add here. When Chouri choura massacre took place and at first British shoot at civil Indians, then they became angry and finally burnt the police station and Gandhi cancelled his non co operation movement but in Noakhali, more than 5000 Hindus were killed by Islam and he just visited the site. And took an another wrong decision of partition. He were able to make the situation under control but he did not wish.
Thanks everyone for responses.
@sagnik42 (3592)
• India
9 Sep 11
Because anand, like in every other case, history forgets great sacrifices. People do not remember revolutionaries like Binoy, Badal, Dinesh, Khudiram, Surya Sen, Chittaranjan Das. The list is endless. That is just from the Eastern side of the country. Some of us who are living in this part, know about them but most of the other parts of the country are ignorant. Probably, the same way we do not know about many other revolutionaries in other parts of the country and know only a handful on whom movies have been made.
That is sad but that is reality.
@shibham (16977)
• India
6 Sep 11
Hi anand...
okay friend. But do you know Masterda Surya Sen. He was the prominent revolutionary and i think more than Bhagat Singh. His tooth were broken by hammer, Nails were pulled out, all the joints were broken before he was hanged. This case is less renown in History. I salute all those revolutionaries.
@viji... hope you will start it very soon and will help you if you need.
thanks.
@ajysharma (60)
• India
6 Sep 11
hi friend mahatma gandhi is wrong somewhere but he is not wrong for every momet .
i think you are right
@Saieshwar (6)
• India
5 Sep 11
i have a point to tell to you,gandhi started non cooperation moment and has seen the result from british as chori chora massacre,so he do not want to kill more people and stopped the moment.
And the situation at that time made him to take decisions on ur remaining reasons,the main reason is that milatary is killing people who have revolted against them,if gandhi has made any contraversial statements at that time then people would get excited and would revolt against milatary which will result in hanging or killing of people.
And about pak issue,i support you,gandhi made a mistake there.
But gandhi made many good things than bad things and got independence for india. For atleast that i respect gandhi,not only me but many british officials also respected and liked gandhi in his time.
@sagnik42 (3592)
• India
7 Sep 11
@thesids,
And one thing you mentioned here which I strongly believe as well, is that British would not have been so kind to let go of our nation unless they were weakened by WW II. But in that case, neither Gandhi, nor Subhash Bose, nor Bhagat Singh, nor any other person for that matter could have brought us freedom in 47 or say 50 years after that.
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@thesids (22180)
• Bhubaneswar, India
6 Sep 11
Unfortunately non-Cooperation was called off not because Indians were killed in Chowri Chowra but because British were killed. And Gandhi knew that if this continues, British would use force and that would weaken "his" Image and Stand.
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@thesids (22180)
• Bhubaneswar, India
6 Sep 11
But gandhi made many good things than bad things
Please cite a few for the discussions sake
got independence for india
The British were economically weaker after WWII and were not in any position to rule such a great empire. So they left - If they had good economy, I doubt India would have got its Independence in 1947.
Again, Gandhi was not the only guy running bersek for Independent India... There were 100s of other leaders (who never get a mention in Indian Books) who were fighting for the Independent India
@ganeshcritic (1)
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26 Dec 11
After the assasination of general dyer, bhagat (singh)was arrested.exactly at that time gandhi irwin pact was to be signed. he got a chance to release 192 non congress men. the first name suggested was bhagat's. gandhi neglected his name. and he requested the british to hang him faster as people should not recognize his mistake - intended mistake. bhagat was hanged because of gandhi.
@jennybianca (12912)
• Australia
6 Sep 11
I am a bit confused by your discussion, simply because I am not knowledgeable about these issues. I have no idea Gandhi was considered in a negative light.
I think wherever the British were involved, there was always duplicity and confusion. I knew about partition, and the British role in dividing a nation, one of their common tactics.
@shibham (16977)
• India
6 Sep 11
From the starting of colonialism .... two countries were in leading role. Britain and Portugal. They had established their imperialism in many countries. I never blame British for the partition, it was their way to survive but i blame Gandhi and brigade for their foolishness.
Thanks for your views.
@bhabycatch013 (9150)
• Philippines
5 Sep 11
hi shiby,
I still like your lady topic
When you will make it continue?
happy mylotting
@warrior007 (570)
• India
6 Sep 11
yes you are right and that is why i also dislike him,he is really a selfish and coward person.
i have read many novels of Chandra Sekhar Azad,Bhagat Singh,Ram Prasad Bismil,also of Bhim Rao Ambedkar,and he never helped these great soldiers and instead of helping them he always became trouble for them,after all after independence he was not giving permission to place Ashok Chakra in place of his charkha and by this you can understand how selfish he was.
this is really a nice discussion and shows the truth of coward person
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