WHat are we going to do with juvenile delinquents?

Philippines
September 30, 2011 8:14am CST
These days many underage kids are already committing crimes, like stealing and doing drugs, some are even killing people already..But then our law here does not permit them to be held in prison for more than a few days since they are underage..So what do we need to do with these young delinquents, they seem to be fearless because the olice can't touch them.. I suggest we should put them in correctional so they can be helped before they get worse, but I don't think that is possible here since we need lots of budget.
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@ur4mae (217)
• Philippines
30 Sep 11
Our law (RA 9344) states that minors 15yrs old and below are exempt from criminal responsibility but that they should be subjected to an intervention program. In theory, I think this is good but what intervention programs are they talking about? Is the department of social services equipped enough for this kind of system? Before, minor offenders were put in a center or "prison" for minors where they undergo rehabilitation programs. Now, the police don't care to apprehend them anymore because they will just be off the hook anyway.
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• Philippines
1 Oct 11
Yeah, the "intervention programs" are quite vague..and i haven't even heard of them actually doing something to give these kids another thing to be busy about. I think it would be better to put them in prisons of their own so they'll be disciplined and they should teach them how to make livelihood too. Easier said than done though.
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• Philippines
1 Oct 11
Yeah, I guess in all cities they all have their own rehabilitation centers. This were especially built for minor offenders. As you have said those under 15 years old are not put in this centers but are placed under the care of Department of Social Services. The problems with this offenders is that knowing they will not be charged for the crime they have committed being minor, so they abused this law which protects them from being criminally liable for such acts. I think this law must be reviewed and our law making body must do something about it soon.
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@ur4mae (217)
• Philippines
1 Oct 11
I know for a fact that there are rehabilitation centers for minors (In my city anyway. I don't know about the others) and that before this law was enacted minor offenders were all placed there. Now, only minors above 15 years old are placed in the centers because 15yrs old and below do not have criminal responsibility anymore.
@rose1717 (190)
• United States
30 Sep 11
I'm going to be very frank, I think parents need to get off their butts and parent! My kids are still young, but I do have a teenager that I've notice doesn't act like a lot of the kids the same age as him at school. He is respectful and considerate of others, he hangs out with just a handfull of kids that are the same. Same with church friends. My husband and I take an interest in our children, we have family night together where we stay home and talk as a family and on Sunday night we go out as a family and go mini putting or bowling. We know where our kids are and what they are doing, we don't ignore them or tell them to leave us alone and go play. I have seen and heard parents do that and tell that to their kids so many times that it makes me sad for the kids.
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• Philippines
2 Oct 11
Yes, we may say that it's the parents fault too if their kids turned what they want their child not to be. Parents should teach their children good manners and the correct conduct while growing up. This growing up years is the time they learn what is right from wrong. Family bonding is also important, eating out, going to the park or movies where children can enjoy the company of their parents.
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• Singapore
1 Oct 11
Your kids are so fortunate.:) It's impt to spend time as a family and to take an interest in one's kids. When kids know that their parents care abt them, and if they grow up in a happy environment, they're unlikely to become delinquents.
@Keola12 (820)
• United States
1 Oct 11
Perhaps some kind of a boot camp would do some good, in that the kids would receive toughlove, straighten up, enable them to realize their mistakes and have them take responsibility for their actions by also doing community service. Through doing so, hopefully they'd turn their lives around and become law abiding citizens.
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• Philippines
1 Oct 11
Yes, that is a god suggestion... But no one seems to be ding anything about it. Maybe we don't have budget for it, but seriously, we need to do something about it son ,since these kids are our future and we need to discipline them before they fall way down and can't stand back up anymore...
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• United States
30 Sep 11
Im not sure where you live. I live in Florida the United States and here we have juvennile detention center where kids like that stay for a very long time. They can even be submitted to a prison cell for killing people. A 17 year old here where i live in Florida just killed his parents about two months back and his trial went through and now he is submitted to two life sentences of murder and he was not an adult but got those sentences because he killed people. I believe your juvenile center need to step it up where you live or they need to have them sent somewhere else that has a place for kids or teens.
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• Philippines
1 Oct 11
I live in the Philippines and sadly we have no correctional or prisons for young criminals.. Since our law states that minors aren't punished, maybe that's the reason why they abuse it and do more crimes, even syndicates use young kids to do their crimes since they aren't punished anyway..
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@emptydb (80)
30 Sep 11
This kind of law for minors is the reason why our vice-mayor is so angry about...minors have become abusive and they on the other side becomes the victim...human lawyers are caught in between, to protect the welfare of the child and to protect the victims of the crimes committed by these minors...disciplinary action is what our vice-mayor is doing, talking to these minors like a father to a child and as well as talking to their parents or guardians and giving them a talk and livelihood projects most specially for mothers for them to have more time to watch over their kids cause one of the reasons why these minors does these things is because of poverty...no money, no education and no education means more time on the street where most of these crimes is happening...
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• Philippines
1 Oct 11
Yes, I agree with you. Since they have nothing else to do and their parents may not have time to discipline them since the may be working, they get influenced by other people... It would be nice if there would be a law that would discipline them.
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@lady1993 (27224)
• Philippines
19 Oct 11
Yeah, I have noticed that to and the people can't really detain them for more than a few days since there is a law protecting them. Maybe they should change this law so they could be punished too since now they are abusing it... They should just be put in separate jails or made to do community service.
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• Philippines
23 Mar 21
Until now law is not changed, and kids just continue crimes bec htey are no punished
• Philippines
1 Oct 11
It is our job as parents and concern citizens to help the younger generation to avoid falling into the wrong crowd. Here in the Philippines the family is closely knitted and the parents are mostly concern about guiding their children to be better citizens except in some cases when the parents are too poor and have plenty of children that with all the tasks that they need to do they cannot give the attention that most younger people are craving for.
• Philippines
3 Oct 11
Number one problem in our country is poverty. Another factor is most poor parents have more mouths to feed than those parents who can really afford to support the needs of their children. The living environment and the bad influences where the children where brought up also adds to the misfortunes of these young children. It is the obligation of the parents to provide all the needs of their children but because some parents can not do so because of their standing in life some children were forced to do bad things.
@huilichan8 (1378)
• Singapore
30 Sep 11
I used to follow up with young delinquents (I was a volunteer.) and to my surprise, they were not as bad as one might think. Usually, delinquents come from broken families where they might hv been neglected or abused. So, it's actually understandable why they turn out to be delinquents. I think the best way to help them is by genuinely loving them and showing them that we adults care abt them. But of course, it wld not help if only a few adults do that. The families of the delinquents need to do their part. Society as a whole has to play its part too. Putting delinquents in a correctional institution might not be gd for them. In my country, a lot of the delinquents who are ordered to be placed in such institutions become more defiant and they end up in prison. So, it's a waste of the country's resources, incl. monetary resources. That's why I am against putting delinquents in any correctional institution.
• Philippines
1 Oct 11
Yes, we do know that the parents have a big part in shaping their children's good character and values while growing up. The community and the government itself must take part too in shaping them to become a good member of the society. But sometimes because of poverty and the places where these kids have grown with can affect the judgement of this minors too. Yes, we can not say that all of them are bad. Some are victims of circumstances who are compelled to do so because there is no other option for them. So I guess your suggestion is right the parents,community and the government should work hand in hand in educating these minor offenders and help them become a productive member of our society.
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@rose1717 (190)
• United States
30 Sep 11
I agree with you to why the kids are the way they are and the best way to help them is to love them and show them that the do matter.
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• Singapore
1 Oct 11
Yup, it's impt to let kids know they do matter.:)
• Philippines
1 Oct 11
Juvenile delinquency isn't really the problem here, because in fact it is just an effect, so it would only mean one thing... It also has a cause.. Even before, it has been an enormous question that they have been looking for an answer up until now. But it would come out as zero resolution. Notwithstanding it could only be reduced instead, avoided and finally be cured. Let's start where they came from. Their homes.Their parents as their guide and in absence of these, that's where the problem starts. Parental negligence is one root cause. Government is just secondary contributor triggered by poverty and environment. And it would be a nightmare that is still creeping up to present days...
• Philippines
4 Oct 11
I guess it is now my friend. Because of poverty many minor offenders are increasing and they are getting bolder and bolder. And I think these juvenile offenders are beating the law because our laws I guess lacks muscles. I think too that these minors are using this law to their advantage by committing crimes. They knew they will not be held liable because they are underage. The best thing our law makers could do is to review these laws covering juvenile delinquents.
@Ag1220 (12)
• United States
30 Sep 11
There's just no way to fix this problem. Personally I think it's because what works for one juvenile delinquent isn't always the same as what works for another
• Philippines
1 Oct 11
Yeah, I think the only way to solve this problem is to solve the problem of poverty first.. but that is also hard to do.. Fighting poverty is very hard since lots of people just get richer and richer, while other get poorer and poorer, some of the rich only take and don't give..
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@mdog56 (23)
• United States
1 Oct 11
This is an extremely important topic and one I am personally interested in. There is no easy solution in dealing with crime, especially with delinquencies. There is no question that our juvenile court could use some renovations, however I feel they are getting the job done as best they can. If you are implying that we ought to subject children to equivalent charges as their adult counterparts, then i would disagree because it is important for society to allow the young to learn from their mistakes and "bounce back" from them in order to become model citizens.
• Philippines
4 Oct 11
No, I am not agreeing to the thought that juvenile delinquents should be put behind bars same as their adult counterparts.I guess not like in other countries where juvenile offenders are also put in prison separated of course from other adult offenders. In our country if the offender is underage, our law stipulates that they can not be held liable for the crime until they reached the age of maturity which is 21. So they are put under the custody of social services for rehabilitation.