Death of a Caterpillar - insight to a child's thinking
By Amfyre
@Amfyre (512)
Canada
October 2, 2011 12:59am CST
It doesn't sound that important, its just a caterpillar. But to two five half year olders its very important.
Sara and Logan found a black caterpillar in the yard which they both brought into the house to show me with great fan fare. Sara my daughter shoves the caterpillar an inch from my nose so I could get a good view and I go crossed eyed trying to see it. I back up a bit to see what the earth the black blob is in my daughters hand and trying to decipher two children babbling at me at once.
I finally understand that they plan on keeping it in the empty fish tank (meant for a betta fish) and it's Logan turn to hold the caterpillar as the two scamper off looking for caterpillar items for the fish tank. They hope to keep it over winter and see what it will turn into come spring. I go back to what I was doing, happy that they are both amuzed and wondering what I will end up with in my home.
About 30 minutes later I hear Logan yell at someone I am not your friend and Sara coming running into the house straight to me, she wraps her arms around me and trembling says We showed Jesse (5 1/2 yr old) the caterpillar and it fell off Logan's hand and Jesse stomped on it. He said it had green insides.
Sara was very upset and in tears, she didn't understand how a kid could go and just stomp on a caterpillar. I rock her and console her and make things as right as a mom can and then after a blowing her nose Sara comes up with this conclusion as to why the caterpillar was squished by Jesse... she says maybe he's black in his heart, cuz his mom and dad don't love him right, so he's mean. His mom and dad never do stuff with him unless it's his birthday and then they only invite grown ups. He's always with the bad kids and his mom and dad don't care...
And what do you say to that? That's insight coming from a 5 1/2year old!
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4 responses
@LilyoftheThorns (12918)
• United States
2 Oct 11
I think your kids are absolutely right and very smart. A kid being cruel to ANY living creature, animal or insect, is extremely bad. I'm 22, soon to be 23 and I NEVER kill any kind of bug purposefully (and if I kill one on accident I feel bad). I even go out of my way to avoid stepping on ants! lol. Call ne crazy, but I just do not likr kiling things, ANYTHING.
I think a kid who knowlingly and happily kills anything really should be watched cloesly. As far as I'm concerned there is nothing stopping him from seeing what will happen if he throws a cat against a wall.
I really hope his parents start participating in his life more, and get him to fix his behavior. Maybe you could leave a little anonymous note telling them they're raising a sociopath! lol
@LilyoftheThorns (12918)
• United States
2 Oct 11
I just kind of had a second thought that's KIND OF off topic but also kind of relevant...lol.
What kind of pets have your kids? They seem like they would be really good with animals. Have they ever had a small mammal for a pet (mice, rats, hamsters, gerbils)?? I have 2 mice right now and I think for a child they would make the neatest little pet.
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@mamasaid (156)
• United States
7 Oct 11
Oh my gosh, your daughter has wisdom beyond her years. I had a similar incident with a caterpillar and my kids years ago, how ironic. My kids thought it was very bad but the preschool teacher said they were overreacting - I disagreed and told my kids they were on target. The boy who crushed the caterpillar turned out to do very disturbed things just a couple of years later. We went to a beach bonfire together and he was taking live sea critters and burning them in the fire, watching them writhe and laughing. All the other kids were mortified, not just mine. Needless to say, we stopped hanging around with these people - and I can't tell you the awful things that wound up happening in that family. It's good your children can identify this stuff, you've done a good job already.
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@LilyoftheThorns (12918)
• United States
10 Oct 11
Oh my gosh mama!!! That bonfire story is going to give me nightmares! How awful!! And what a horrible child, he's going to grow up to be a serial killer, just you watch! Did anyone stop him from throwing the sea animals into the fire? Oh my gosh..what a freak! I just can't believe it. How old was he when he did this??
@Suzieqmom (2755)
• United States
30 Apr 12
Cruelty to animals is one of the first signs that a child may have sociopathic tendencies. Your kids are right to stay away from this little boy, although perhaps if he is not too far gone they might serve to be good role models? Depends on whether you have any relationship with the other parents. If not, then it is better to err on the side of caution and keep your distance from him.
Hopefully now that it is spring your kids can find a new caterpillar friend!
@Amfyre (512)
• Canada
9 Oct 11
YOU Said Mama
Kids who go and purposely hurt little creatures/animals often turn out to be extremely disfunctional, maybe even lives can be taken as they grow older. The kids have chosen not to associate with the boy on thier own accord. Mine had a good talk to me about why she doesn't want to have mean friends. It often amazes me how children know in thier hearts what is right and wrong and from parents all they need is love and guidance!
@rajaiv0810 (1012)
• Philippines
2 Oct 11
There was one time when a caterpillar fell off from the tree and me my 2 children saw it. I was on panic as I am not very fond of wormy things I stepped on the caterpillar. My children accused me of killing the caterpillar. Then my daughter said mom there will be no more butterflies anymore because you killed the caterpillar. Then my son cried and my daughter just consoled his brother and she said maybe next time there will be another caterpillar and we will tell mom not to kill it so there will be more butterflies.
I felt so ashamed with what I have done. Of course I didn't mean to offend them and it made me realize that children as young as they are know how to care. I appreciated my children even more because of that. Sometimes as adults we tend to forget the importance of little things, such as the importance of a caterpillar.
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@Amfyre (512)
• Canada
3 Oct 11
Isn't the guilt horrible! Nothing like a child to put their innocent prospective onto us and we feel so terrible. I put ant spray down around the edge of the door and I was interigated about whether it would kill other things. I also hate spiders with a passion and they make my skin crawl, natural fear of those ugly 8 legged things. To appease my child I now round up the nasty spiders in a dust pan and dump them outdoors, all for the love of small child. Personally I rather squish'em!!!
@marie2052 (3691)
• United States
2 Oct 11
Yes children are impressionable at that age.
And as your daughter thought parents that do not take time to teach nature etc., The little boy probably had not had the learning that it would in time turn into a beautiful butterfly.
I had 5 children so I had everything from fish to tadpoles, hundreds of catapillers, even to snakes and spiders.
My youngest when he was 4 years old he come running in the house after being at the pond and is dragging 2 bull frogs with him.
he had one in each hand and was holding each under their front arms and their long legs dangling as he rushed in.
All I can hear is MOM MOM can I keep it?
So getting him to understand they needed to live in the pond and why etc, my son was not having ANY of it. So he breaks me down and I tell him to put them in the bathtub.
he stopped and thought a minute, and said Why the bathtub? We have a swimming pool and I could swim with them.
I explain with the chorination and other chemicals no they could not survive in the pool.
So finally got him to put them in the bathtub with a little water.
While he runs back to the pond to find MORE FROGS, my husband showed up from work
I had my mind on dinner and did not the bathtub.
All of a sudden I hear What the heck are these?
Thats when it jogged my memory Frogs in the bathtub!
Went and got the frogs put them in a bucket for my son, and returned to dinner.
My son played with the frogs all evening on the deck.
Poor frogs.
The next day was Saturday and I had to work leaving children with father.
We all know how that goes. Dad asleep on the couch.
Kids doing their thing.
So in the afternoon before I got home, my girls brought some friends over and asked if they could go swimming.
My husband come out to check chemicals in the pool and finds BOTH bullfrogs at the bottom of the water.
My youngest son did not want them to jump out of the bucket so he put them in the pool overnight.
Needless to say and talking with my son beforehand, he really wanted those froggies to swim in the pool.
@Amfyre (512)
• Canada
3 Oct 11
Ugh I can't believe you mentioned bull frogs, I actually remember draging one home to ask my mother if I could keep it, those ugly bumpy things can weight up 7+ pounds. I remember struggling with it to bring it home. I don't remember my mom's reaction but I doubt it was overly thrilling. I do remember her walking me back to the creek and explaining to me that this was it home and it had everything in it that the frog needed. Actually maybe it was a toad not a frog... it was more on the brown side of color, anyways it's still hard to watch a child's face pained with grief over a small creature whether it's a guinea pig or a caterpillar!