It's time to marry Or leave me!
@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
United States
31 responses
@mariahhh (1328)
• United Arab Emirates
5 Oct 11
It depends on the situation. There are many circumstances that a guy just doesn't want to get married and the girl will feel it. In a relationship, a guy should know how to make a girl feel secure. I have lots of friends who have been with their boyfriends for so long, but the guy still isn't mentioning anything about the future. It's hard for the girl to wait, especially if they wanted to marry before the age of thirty but the guy just doesn't care about age. So in my opinion, if I'm already around 31 and I have a boyfriend of 6 years and still doesn't want to talk about marriage, then I will give him an ultimatum. I want a guy who is serious about future, and is not afraid of commitments.
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@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
5 Oct 11
Is marriage the Only way to show commitment?If so two years is too long to wait. Me? I never will marry. I don't see marriage as the only way to commit. silly me , if a guy stays with me more than 3 years , he is already committed!But then again I never wanted marriage.
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@momof3kids (1894)
• Singapore
6 Oct 11
To me a marriage is important, beacuse I am not a big earner. If the husband leaves me, I want a claim on the property. I am not going to let him say, 'hey this is all mine and all your time in it doesnt mean a thing.' A marriage cert protects me that way.
It is different I guess when the woman is the big earner.
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@mariahhh (1328)
• United Arab Emirates
5 Oct 11
I guess the meaning of "commitment" depends on a person. If you don't want marriage, then being with him for three years is already a commitment. I guess it's important if both of you have the same belief about marriage. A woman who longed for marriage might feel that the guy is not serious with their relationship if he will not marry her after so many years.
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@allknowing (137603)
• India
5 Oct 11
That thinking would be the result of what has gone on between them during those 4 years. Four years is a long time to decide on their future.I don't know why men are so afraid to commit. If the purpose of friendship would be to marry and about which the guy knows, I would certainly leave him if he dilly dallies and puts off the 'd' day indefinitely.
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@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
5 Oct 11
Afraid may not be the word. I believe many don't have the need to marry. They can be with you forever but never marry. and just because he doesn't want to matty Does not mean he doesn't love you. But I agree with you . If a woman Needs to marry and the guy she is with will not marry her , she Has to move on. I feel so sorry for the woman who has seen the signs. The guy she is with isn't into marriage. He changes the subject whenever she mentions it. Or like in the show , makes it a big joke. But she stays and truly believes if she waits a little bit longer he will change his mind. But he doesn't.
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@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
5 Oct 11
I agree. I don't know what happened in the beginning with this couple. What I do know is that they have been together for 4 years. They live together. But did she express her feelings in the beginning? I am not sure.
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@allknowing (137603)
• India
5 Oct 11
Not having the need to marry must be mentioned right at the time the relationship develops at which time surely the woman must have made her intentions clear. I therefore feel in this case the woman has been taken for a ride if the man had no intentions to say 'I do'
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@chiyosan (30183)
• Philippines
5 Oct 11
i do not want to force someone to marry me. i mean if he wants to he will do that. he will ask me to marry him and there is no need for me to force him to do that... i mean i am sure its good to know that the relationship will go somewhere, leading to a family... but then i think its just not how we should want it to be. he might want out himself if you do force him.
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@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
5 Oct 11
You can't make people want to marry. Either they want to marry or they don't. And forcing a person to marry is a huge mistake. but having to wait to marry is just as huge.Everyone who wants to marry Should marry and the ones who don't , shouldn't!
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@momof3kids (1894)
• Singapore
5 Oct 11
Now that I know better I would definitely ask my daughters to set a time limit. If the guy doesnt want to commit then its time to move on.
I think most guys will change after they are married and I mean that they change not for the better. Or rather when they are dating you, they are not themselves and when they are married, they revered to their old selves.
So I think the first sign that they are family oriented is when they are willing to commit which to me is a good sign.
I would definitely leave the guy if he doesnt want to get married.
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@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
5 Oct 11
and I would leave a guy who needs to get married. Why? I truly believe marriage to me would make a nice guy evil. I would make sure of it! I am not baby oriented anyway. that change you talk about is Exactly what I would do. The guy would love the unmarried Sarah and mourn her demise once I say I do.I agree if a person Needs to marry , they have to see if the other person needs it too. And if they don't move on.
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@momof3kids (1894)
• Singapore
6 Oct 11
Yes I think it should be clear early in the relationaship what both parties want, just like what the person above me and you have said. Carrying on without respecting each other's wishes could only end up in heartbreak and wasted time.
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@flapiz (23151)
• United Kingdom
5 Oct 11
Well I think I don't care how long I have to wait for a proposal, as long as my boyfriend could guarantee to me that he has a plan to marry me in the future. I mean why rush, right? But if my boyfriend will say that he has no intention of marrying me even in the future, then I think there's no use for that relationship to still exist.
I don't need a rushed proposal, but I do need one before I die, right? Hehehe.
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@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
5 Oct 11
If that's what you want. Me? I never want a proposal. I just want my guy.
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@rdmcollamat (176)
• Philippines
5 Oct 11
Well, it depends. If we're both ready and he doesn't show any signs of wanting to marry me, then to hell with him. I'm not wasting any time on him.
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@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
5 Oct 11
Go out and find a guy who Wants to marry you . It is a huge mistake to force a guy to marry you.
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@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
7 Oct 11
I will never marry because it changes Everything! Once I say I do , I will do a 180! Gone would be the nice Sarah and B!tch Sarah would take her place!
Just remember , you can have love, respect, commitment , and even children Without marriage!Follow your bliss!
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@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
6 Oct 11
First time? What happened the second time?
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@cerebellum (3863)
• United States
7 Oct 11
After dating for awhile I kind of said that to my ex. I asked him in a sly way what would happen in the future. I didn't think we could date forever. It turned out I probably shouldn't have asked and should have left him. It would have saved me from going through a divorce anyway.
@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
7 Oct 11
So he married you but Never Really , truly wanted to be married? I'm so sorry.
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@ashbelle (49)
• Philippines
5 Oct 11
I am with my boyfriend for more than 4 years now and he has been asking me about marriage early on our relationship. I was young back then and really felt that I am not ready yet. On our first year, I felt ready to commit but my boyfriend seem to think that I still don't want to get married yet. So, I waited for him to ask me again. Waiting is very difficult. I waited 3 years for him to ask me again and I didn't want to pressure him. However, I decided to finally ask him (nicely) about marriage(before I got tired of waiting). So, when we got to talking about it, it became easier and now we're planning more about it. So, if your boyfriend is not asking you yet, try initiating it. Or try giving him hints that you ALREADY want to settle down. Sometimes, all they need is a little push.
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@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
5 Oct 11
Me? Marry? Never! I just saw this scene on t.v. and thought I would ask. See if my guy asked me to marry him in our first year , there wouldn't have been a second. I told him in the beginning I will never marry. so if he Needs to marry lets break up Right now. but he stayed. I believe if you are comfortable with your love , you can ask anything. So why wait fore him or try to make any hints. Just ask straight away.
@macayadann (1235)
• Philippines
6 Oct 11
We are just opposing the christian belief that the couple should be bonded in the matrimony or sacrament of marriage. But with gathered facts,not all ended happily. They just left their partner irregardless of their sincere exchange of vows facing the altar believing that God is there witnessing. Therefore, we can not give irrational thinking why your boyfriend or girlfriend does not want to be tied up.Both of you can wait,even for a longer time for as long as you enjoy the company of one another. The fear of losing one another makes it stronger to hold tightly and securely the relationship they have and marriage is not even the assurance for that matter. As you stay with one another,you will learn what you are getting into. The maturity comes in to finalize the concrete decision that they are ready to hold the responsibility of the last phase in life which is Parenting or Family life.
@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
6 Oct 11
But you can do all this and not get married.You can meet , enjoy each other and live together and even have kids if you want them and Not get married.
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@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
6 Oct 11
But if G-d is at the center , and you are just staying together out of fear, how do you remain happy? If I feared G-d So much that I Had to marry I would be miserable and knowing me I would resent not only G-d but everything and everyone! I guess don't get how G-d wants me to be miserable?
@macayadann (1235)
• Philippines
6 Oct 11
Just test yourself in distance first and analyze if both of you can still patch up the situation, however, if you believe that there is no more solution then let time passes between you and just see and wait if you are really meant to stay together or not.
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@WakeUpKitty (8694)
• Netherlands
5 Oct 11
No time limit for a proposal but I had a time limit for the relationship.
A relationship has to be good. The intention is to grew old together. You need to be close for that, share, respect eachtother, be able to develop yourself, grow.
If this all is not happening (even worse does) you should ask yourself what is important to you in your life. Struggling and feeling unhappy for the rest of your life? Always compromising or worser always giving in and forgetting about what you want, what you need, what you are looking for?
If there is love, real love you have to feel it every day, it has to be proven too, over and over again. Those who say that the fact you are together says enough about loving eachother are not knowing what they are talking about.
For some people it's important to get married, to others it's important to get children. If the one you are staying with is not sharing the same opinion, is not able to give what you need, you are wasting your time.
I once had a boyfriend, the first thing he said to me was: I don't want to get married and I don't want children. I told him that is fine and I left.
Why should I stay and give up on what I want? And yes ofcourse I can get pregnant and say it was an accident and hope he will like the kid as soon as it's born, but that is not my style.
Only birds of a feather stick together.
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@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
5 Oct 11
I'm the female version of your boyfriend. I say it uo front , No Marriage and no kids. thankfully my guy said Ok! I agree, if you just had the baby with this guy , he would feel trapped and resent you And the Baby . And he would leave. If not physically but emotionally. I wish there were more people like you. I know there are more people waiting for a person to change and then they can be happy. Not realizing that theor partner will never change because they are Happy.What I disagree with is thei proving your love thing. if you Have to prove it, how real is it Really. I mean if my guy said that I had to marry him to prove how much I love him , I would walk away because it is obvious he doesn't love me at all. He is just trying to bully me and Bullies can't love. So I would walk away. true love I have found Has to be expressed freely and Often.It comes naturally and not as a order from the state! It does happen daily! That is far different from Having to prove it.
@evanfred0219 (209)
• Philippines
5 Oct 11
if you really love someone, you need to be patient. marrying is not a race that we put a time trial to a relationship where it should progress into marriage. to build your own family requires a serious preparation because problems may arise if your both not prepared financially, emotionally, mentally, and spiritually.
@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
5 Oct 11
Agreed! I know I will Never marry and I told my guy the moment he said I love you . If he Needed marriage that was the time to go , but he didn't!
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@sid556 (30959)
• United States
5 Oct 11
Ultimatums and love don't go together in my opinion. To marriage is or should be a decision that you both come to when and if the time is right. I guess if I felt the need to give such an ultimatum then I would hope it would tell me something about my own feelings. I really am struggling with finding the words to describe my thoughts on this. Love is love and marriage does not prove more committment. You can have deep and lasting love and committment with or without the marriage contract. It all depends on the people involved.
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@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
6 Oct 11
My feelings exactly. You said it all and very well! I prefer love Over marriage. But it seems many think you can't have one Without the other. It is like they assume the guy doesn't love them if he doesn't want to marry.I always thought the complete opposite. I believe for me I can have either love Or Marriage.
@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
9 Oct 11
They just Need to be married More than being in love.
@sid556 (30959)
• United States
6 Oct 11
Yes, if you need a piece of paper to prove that you love each other and are committed then you may want to step back and re-examine your relationship. If you are so willing to walk away from someone that you say you love enough to spend your life with all for the lack of a piece of paper then you really really need to look at your own heart.
@aerous (13434)
• Philippines
6 Oct 11
I think if the promise is not being fulfill and the leave for many years. It's time to decide the future if you really love the guy and continue assure of the time to marry you...
Leave the proposal if nothing happen to said promise. It will make you hurt if you continue...
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@umabharti (3972)
• India
6 Oct 11
There are some conditions,it should not be too long to drag any relationship,should get married as early as possible or if they have some problems try to solve them as soon as possible and get married.Yes there is a time to marry or leave.As every individual has some selfish ness or there is certain time also to get married,if that time goes off then there will not be any wish to marry .
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@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
6 Oct 11
Sop for me , from age 0-13 was the time for me to marry because since age 13 I didn't want to marry. I think a couple should talk about what they Really want sooner than later. Now if one says point blank they do not want to marry and the other thinks they can change their mind, they will stay.Sadly, they may be wasting their time.
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@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
9 Oct 11
I meant So for me. I decided at age 7 Never to have kids and by 13 Never to marry. So when you said there was a time to marry, My time was 0-13!Back then I saw the way to " maintain a marital relationship" was for the wife to do Exactlyr what her husband said. To be ruled over. So at first I thought it would be easier to marry someone I could hate without thinking about it but when the ones I thought of were already daed, I said Why marry? I want love not marriage!
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@umabharti (3972)
• India
6 Oct 11
"Sop for me" what is the full form for Sop ? i could not understand that.
Why u say its 0 - 13 years at that period of age no one is that much developed to think for this love and marriage,is it not too early.
Atleast there should be a ability to understand what it is,and how to maintain a marital relationship.
First should earn ,should stand on oneself and then look for bearing those relations ,if not those relations will end up very soon.
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@FarahJane1011 (180)
• Philippines
6 Oct 11
I guess, there's always a time for everything. A time to flirt, to play, and a time to take all things seriously such as marriage. Marriage is not an ordinary thing where you can always return your husband/wife and go back to your usual single life when you are done with it. Marriage is not that easy. It takes all preparation and courage to enter into that complicated yet blissful life.
If I were to ask, i will surely leave a guy and move on with my life after waiting for how many years. You know, our time on earth is limited, so why waste for nothing? Unless, it is really worth to wait. But if your plans does not match with your partner, better think wisely and move on to the next chapter.
@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
9 Oct 11
I love my guy and he loves me . That is all I ever wanted. As for changing for love , I wouldn't . because then my guy wouldn't love me. he loves me as is. If I start changing now , he will stop loving me.
@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
6 Oct 11
" complicated yet blissful life"? Wow! I'm on the other side. I prefer a simple and fulfilling life! I agree with your last sentence. As soon as you find that your plans differ it is time to leave. But sadly many believe he/she will change Because they love them. Wrong! You either want to marry or not.
@FarahJane1011 (180)
• Philippines
7 Oct 11
Yes, complicated yet blissful life. It is indeed true for some married couple, like me. I would say its complicated for reasons only married can tell plus the fact that I am no longer thinking for myself only but for my family also. I would also say its blissful in the sense that I am perfectly happy and contented with my life being a wife and a mother to my child. I always feel like I'm in heaven every time am with them. No words can exactly describe how blessed I am.;-) Well, i guess it all depends on a person's perspective also. If you choose the other side and if you are happy with it, then be it. Every person has different views and different outlook in life, as long as one is happy with their chosen path, then be it. ;-)
As to "change because of love", hmmnnn... I think it all depends.... It depends on how willing you are to do everything for the sake of love. ;-)
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@littlemissy (200)
• Canada
21 Oct 11
I think it all depends on the situation more than anything. And it depends on the two people involved. Sometimes getting married isn't good. My mom and dad didn't get married till I was 1 year old. They lived together for 8 years before they got married and after they got married they broke up within 4 years.
My mom always said it was because she grew up once I was born and he didn't. So after they got married she wanted it all to be family things and he was still into going to the bar after work with the guys and not come home for dinner. I guess before they got married it didn't matter to her because she was the same way but after they got married she didn't want the party life anymore and wanted the family life.
She also says that maybe if they hadn't gotten married and just continued to live together than maybe, a big maybe, they would still be together because maybe she wouldn't have grown up so much and would still liked to party with him.
littlemissy signing off for now,
talk to you later my new friend
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@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
21 Oct 11
In this case , married or no , it wouldn't have lasted. She wanted the family life and he did not. It Has Nothing to do with being grown up. It is all about what you want out of life. I'm so sorry. I hope you are close with both parents.
@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
22 Oct 11
That's all that matters. You love them and they love you. They don't have to love each other! I hope one of those days with dad is his birthday and the other is father's Day! Ok enough prying. I'm so happy things worked out.
@littlemissy (200)
• Canada
22 Oct 11
sarahruthbeth22 I am very close to my parents. I now live with my mom, we share an apartment suite in a house together. I am also close to my dad. I lived with him from when I was 18 till I was 23. Before that I lived with my mom but she moved to another city and I didn't want to move at the time so I moved in with my dad after my mom sold the house. I now moved to the same city as my mom so I only get to see my dad a few times a year but I talk to him on the phone or by email at least twice a month.
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