And You Wonder Why I Hate Living In The UK?
By Janey1966
@Janey1966 (24170)
Carlisle, England
October 10, 2011 9:53am CST
I feel so sorry for parents these days. Despite CCTV watching our every move (we're the most watched nation on the planet, apparently) Mums and Dads can't take pics of their own kids without some JOBSWORTH descending on them, spouting off about Child Protection and Terrorism, for God's sake.
The latest incident I have read about (and I'm incensed about it) was from a shopping centre in Glasgow, Scotland. Funnily enough, when I was waiting for my train in Preston a few weeks ago, a Scottish lady actually praised this shopping centre to the hilt, saying if I was ever in Glasgow, I MUST visit it.
I won't be visiting it now. I feel so sorry for the guy in this clip (it may not load, in that case just read the article). Please watch/read it and tell me what you think.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-15236758
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8 responses
@marguicha (223107)
• Chile
11 Oct 11
The UK is not the only country that is looking under the grass for terrorists. Many big countries do the same and it depends on the intelligence of the person in charge what is done.
My daughter will not go to the US anymore even though she has an "american family" that had her for one year in a scholarship. We visited each other until once , at the airport in Boston, she had to take off the diapers of her 3 year old son (it was Winter, to make it worse)while my granddaughter, then 13, cried and said she was never coming again to this country of savages. Thanks be given that she said it in Spanish. If not, she might have been put to jail for saying the truth.
She has never gone back in 8 years. I´d like to take my gradchildren to Disney, but I doubt that I will be able to.
There is a thin limit between taking care of freedom and licentiousness. I think that this belongs to the second
@marguicha (223107)
• Chile
11 Oct 11
The pity of it is that all around the world, the US is judged not by the lots of nice people that live there, but by a bunch of hotheads that turn a lovely country into a battlefield. And I´m not talking about the possible terrorists, which are smart and trained and can do what they want anyway
@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
11 Oct 11
I remember my visits to the US very well. It was bad enough being an adult, having all those security checks but a CHILD? Well, that's a different matter and I can well understand why people are upset enough about it to keep their kids away from the US. I can't see it being any different in the UK, to be honest but there you go. Signs of the times we're living in and it's not nice is it?
@rose1717 (190)
• United States
11 Oct 11
It is sad that I live in the US and totally agree with you. We will probably never get to go to Disney either because we will not be flying and subject our children to go through that. My son is old enough that he would get the full pat down and I will not have him subjeced to it. We cannot drive because we are a couple days away and my young daughter gets car sick.
@changjiangzhibin89 (16762)
• China
11 Oct 11
It is unconceivable that Dad was thought to be illegal owing to tooking photographs of his own four-year-old daughter in a shopping centre even they confiscated his mobile phone.I think they were sort of in a state of extreme nervousness.Nowaday.It seems that anti-terrorism is an overriding task.
@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
11 Oct 11
It's all very sad. When the IRA were bombing this country we had NOTHING like this going on and it saddens me that we copy everything the Americans do..and they have only had ONE taste of a terrorism act, not half a dozen like we have. Why couldn't we advise them about how to deal with terrorism instead of being brainwashed into paranoia? My answer would be to just live our lives as normal and don't get paranoid over the slightest thing. This is what the terrorists want and they don't bomb now because they don't have to. We're scared enough without any of that going on.
They must be having a right laugh at our expense.
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@changjiangzhibin89 (16762)
• China
12 Oct 11
You are right.they ape the Americans at every step,sometimes go even farther than them,as a result,people are all in a constant state of anxiety.
@urbandekay (18278)
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11 Oct 11
Strictly speaking this is nothing new, it has always been illegal to take photos without permission in a private space and shopping centres are private places. If you look around in shopping centres you may see notices to that effect. I saw one in Watford Harlequin yesterday
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@marguicha (223107)
• Chile
11 Oct 11
Why would a mall be a private place? If it were, it could not let costumers come in before they show an ID or a special invitation. I don´t open my house to strangers; but of course I live in a private house.
@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
11 Oct 11
The thing is this law (or whatever it's supposed to be) is flawed because there were conflicting views on this, depending on who you spoke to. The mall itself gave out a statement saying this is used "with discretion for families." In other words, if it's obvious a man is taking a photo of his own kid, then they SHOULD be left alone.
I find it quite sad that this is how we all live our lives now and it doesn't stop abuse, does it? Makes it go further underground, which doesn't help anybody.
@stephcjh (38473)
• United States
10 Oct 11
That is something else. I don't blame you for feeling that way.
@rajaiv0810 (1012)
• Philippines
11 Oct 11
So what if you are a tourist does that mean you cannot take souvenir photos? If you are new to certain place you would love to take photos whether it's a plain view shot or with people. Well I wouldn't be surprised then if tourists will be escorted by the police for interview.
@Vrilya (128)
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11 Oct 11
The police can't stop you taking photos or videos in any public place and have to invoke the terrorism act 2000 (ammended) under certain constraints (ie a well defined area is declared off limits to cameras for a set time period). The shopping mall is a different matter though, it is private property and the people who run it are acting within their legal rights to impose a no photography policy.
@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
11 Oct 11
"With discretion shown for families." No discretion with this particular family, which is what the father was complaining about.
@thedailyclick (3017)
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10 Oct 11
I’ve just read through the article and on one hand if there is a clearly signposted “no Photography” policy then fair do’s the security guard was just doing his job, and you can’t blame him, he doesn’t make the rules. But seriously that is one stupid rule and another case of things going too far in this country.
Ironically just looking through the Braehead website there is neither any mention on there of a no photography policy and I presume the photo they have off the eating area is full of paid models and not customers they took a sneaky photo of!
@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
10 Oct 11
LOL! Braehead have also said that they use this "no photography" policy with discretion when it comes to families, which begs the question..why wasn't that discretion used with this guy?
Is it any wonder why people become recluses and stay at home with their kids upstairs on their computers? They daren't go out!
@bounce58 (17387)
• Canada
14 Oct 11
The industry that I work in, is fond of complications. It makes mountains out of mole hills. We make too many specifications, restrictions, and qualifications, that we can't do anything without breaking one of our 'documents'.
Somehow I feel like this incident is like my industry. That people make everything too complicated, that the simple joy of taking a picture of your own kid requires a lot of qualifications.