What do you think of the OCCUPY movement?
By CraftyCorner
@CraftyCorner (5600)
United States
January 6, 2012 12:38am CST
By now everyone (with the possible exception of two penguin watchers in the North Pole) knows about the OCCUPY movement.
In general, it is not one but several groups of people protesting elements of society deemed unjust. They claim that it is the "99% against the 1%", or the poor and middle to upper middle class, even some who we would consider wealthy against the super-rich.
The super-rich of the financial sector are blamed for creating the crash of 2008 with dodgy deals on rubbish paper.
What do you think of the OCCUPY movement?
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7 responses
@sid556 (30960)
• United States
6 Jan 12
Hi there CraftyCorner,
Well, I'm not sure that ALL of them even know just what it is they are supporting although I've talked to some and I do agree with a lot of their thoughts. I think that 99% vs.1% is a bit extreme because truthfully there is a huge chunk of people that don't work at all that are pretty protected by our government and they are considered poor. I also know some wealthy people that got that way and are that way through honest hard work...why should they be penalized? I do agree that the tax loopholes need to be closes for the large corps and that the big donations to the politicians needs to stop. There is a lot of corruption in both our government and the big corporations that needs to be stopped. Their method of handling it though is stupid. They are targeting the wrong places and people. They have no organization. They need spokespeople and a plan. I stopped listening to them a while back. They may have a good message but their method sucks.
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@CraftyCorner (5600)
• United States
8 Jan 12
I believe that the OCCUPY movement did a good thing by causing discussions like this to happen.
The non-working poor are usually people who are unable to work due to physical, or medical conditions and should be protected or else they would die in the street. I am one of the disabled, on SSD, due to physical and 'mental' (autism caused issues) that would make work impossible.
The productive rich are not the targets I don't believe of this legislation. Most of them wouldn't mind higher taxes, and they do in fact tax themselves via philanthropy. Bill Gate's is world renown. It is the parasites who work and live in the Wall Street and banking culture. The parasites produce nothing but consume everything.
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@flowerchilde (12529)
• United States
6 Jan 12
I tend to blame government more than business or even the super rich for our declining productivity and jobs.. and think government is playing the blame card as a red herring.. I know there is imbalance, but isn't it government that lets laws be skirted in payment for favors and benefits from lobbyists? So still, addressing government to me makes more sense. If we are too down on productivity, where will jobs come from? Do away with lobbying!! is the answer but gov certainly doesn't want us to think about thAt!
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@CraftyCorner (5600)
• United States
8 Jan 12
Government, at least today's, is owned by lobbyists. Dollars can buy large numbers of such. Many politicians are owned by corporations because it takes so much money to get into office in the first place.
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@drknlvly6781 (6246)
• United States
6 Jan 12
I think that this group is bringing a lot of attention to the unscrupulous practices of both government and the super rich, the actions that have gotten the United States in the state we are now. However, I think that something more will need to be done for this attention to affect actual change. Not saying that the Occupy movement isn't doing enough, but their efforts thus far don't seem to be making any waves where they need to be made. The occupy movement will need to make some sort of grand gesture that deeply affects that very same one percent into making change.
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@CraftyCorner (5600)
• United States
8 Jan 12
The OCCUPY is bigger than it looks. It is global. The crowds in the USA are for the most part peaceful in real life. In cyberspace its another ballgame. The fireworks are epic, you just have to know where to look and be in the right circles. The parasites are in the proper place and are getting blasted. All kinds of uncomfortable information is getting pried loose. Who is doing that?
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@drknlvly6781 (6246)
• United States
8 Jan 12
Well, I didn't know that it was a global movement, but my assessment still stands for me. Until that movement gets a more focused agenda, all the info they uncover may go for naught. But I guess only time will tell if their movement will actually bring positive change as is, or if they will rework their focus to become more defined.
@bellis716 (4799)
• United States
8 Jan 12
I think that the country would be better served if those people would clean up the sites they've been occupying, vacate it, return home, clean up and get a j ob. Then, they could work in a dignified manner to change the laws they feel wrong. Mainly, I disagree with the "occupy"movement because we do not want socialism in the USA.
By the way, I don't believe that there are any penguins at the north pole. They are native to the south pole region.
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@CraftyCorner (5600)
• United States
8 Jan 12
I find your argument offensive although it is your right to state it.
There are few if any jobs in the United States that offer a living wage.
The medical care system is wrong in America due to the fact there is none.
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@drknlvly6781 (6246)
• United States
8 Jan 12
Many don't want socialism, but I agree with Crafty with your argument being offensive. Many of the occupy movement are out there because they CANNOT FIND OR GET A JOB...that is one of the campaighns the Occupy movement has. If they could simply clean up and get a job, they wouldn't be out there protesting in the first place.
Come on, these aren't the stereotypical "hippies" that you are making them out to be. They aren't protesting that jobs are "harshing their mellow"; they're protesting that Government big wheels have made it all but impossible to make an honest living!
@hiphopkid (38)
• Canada
6 Jan 12
I think it is a genius movement because of the fact that they have no leader. If the government or upper class want to shut them down, there is no one person to go after. I also find it funny how the media tries to avoid the subject in north america as you can see in the Time Magazine covers http://www.time.com/time/magazine/0,9263,7601111205,00.html
It is the start of what I think will be a greater movement after people start realizing that the US dollar is worthless. Some people are finally realizing what "money" really is. They are also outraged by how the rich keep getting richer and how the poor keep getting poorer and I am with them because I do not seem to be getting richer.
@mohkanari (1957)
• India
6 Jan 12
I think similar problems and non political movements in action are occurring in many nations. I am in India and here some politicians joining with big corporate lobbies brought huge corruptions during past few years swallowing huge government revenue. A non political movement lead by a " Gandhian" Anna Hazare is fighting against it and achieved some successes, where political parties failed to do anything against such open corruptions. Similar leadership is essential for fight with effects against such big rooted social exploitations. I think absence of able leadership would be a big minus point to OCCUPY movement to attain progress.
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@CraftyCorner (5600)
• United States
8 Jan 12
There are numerous leaders doing numerous things. One group is called Anonymous or Anons. They pry embarrassing info free from dark corners of cyberspace out to air in full public view.
The problem is if you aren't familiar with Anonymous, you wouldn't know where to look for all the scandal. Reporters on the other hand know just what to do when something hot, juicy, and filthy drops in their laps.
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@cripfemme (7698)
• United States
6 Jan 12
I am part of the Occupy Movement. I've done Occupy Wall Street officially in NYC with a group of disabled protestors. I've also done Occupy Northampton and Occupy Springfield (occupies near me). I don't believe the banks are responsible for all of our country's financial difficulties, but a lot of them. Some needs to hold people accountable. Occupy is doing or at least trying to do that.
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