What Do You Think is a Prove That You Following The Truth?
By moneylots87
@moneylots87 (521)
Indonesia
January 15, 2012 12:32pm CST
I don't want this discussion become a debates between other religions, so please be respectful.
I just want to know, ELSE THAN ur holy book, ur own religious teachings, doctrines, etc. What do you think is a prove that u are following The Truth?
*Please no offencing others belifs, be respectful*
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15 responses
@Gordano (795)
• United States
17 Jan 12
Hello moneylots87,
I'm a Muslim, and I do believe that God is one and the same, God is unchanged, and thus, His message to the humanity is the same, God sent prophets with guidance, they all came with one message and there teachings were the same, the first of God's prophets was Noah PBUH and the final Prophet is Muhammad PBUH, My proof that I follow the truth is the seven Laws of Noah, they are included in the Law or the Torah (the Book of Moses) and they are included in the Holy Qura'n, that is a proof that I follow the truth, even the Bible [Malachi 3:6] says that God is unchanged.
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@Graptopetalum (1807)
• Canada
22 Jan 12
I thought Adam was the first prophet in Islam.
Of course, it's yet another example of Muslim "heads I win, tails you loose" arguments to say Mohammad was the last prophet, so his word overrides anything earlier and anything later can't be true either.
@moneylots87 (521)
• Indonesia
18 Jan 12
@Gordano, Assalammualikum...
Alhamdulillah, yes u are right, God is UNCHANGED! None of His Laws or Rules will changed! Ameennn! :) *thumb up* :)
@Olleenz (3398)
• Indonesia
15 Jan 12
Everyone had their own reason why they belief/follow to particular religion. Some people not even understand why they follow their religion.
I belief my holy book source all of science. Just example; when scientist still find out why a lot of creature destroyed million years ago, my holy book already answer it (in their own word of course)
@Graptopetalum (1807)
• Canada
18 Jan 12
There are quiet a few passages in the Bible that describe things like nuclear weapons and a comet impact, possibly aircraft and computers. Zech 6:1-8 sounds a lot like a poetic description of 9/11.
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@moneylots87 (521)
• Indonesia
15 Jan 12
@Olleenz, i don't know what is your religion, but yes I am agree! That what u said about science in your holy book, can be a prove that your holy book is from God (not man made)
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@moneylots87 (521)
• Indonesia
15 Jan 12
@barehugs, Yes! I am agree with you in some point, even though I think for religion, we need to understand and learned it deeply, before we follow it and believe it with all our heart!... But yes, maybe the understanding for one person to the other person is different for religions.
@moneylots87 (521)
• Indonesia
18 Jan 12
@Graptopetalum, I read all your comments, included mature contents too, I studied Christianity and all ur doctrines for many years, and I am found the truth in Islam! I don't want to debate, because this is not the place! I just can say "Shall the True God filled your soul with peace not hates!"
@moneylots87 (521)
• Indonesia
18 Jan 12
@Graptopetalum, the fruit they bear on that contex u said, its means not literally! Lol! Its metaphore, it means what they produced, What our Prophet produced was changed Quraisy idolaters to worship The One God, God of Abraham! If u connect it wit terrorism n stuff its the fruits of extremism!
@maidangela7349 (1191)
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16 Jan 12
Nobody can prove that they know the truth about any religion because nobody knows or has ever known what the truth is. In the thousands of years of history regarding many different religions there never has been any real proof of any "god" that has the slightest interest in any single person
@maidangela7349 (1191)
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17 Jan 12
Well not quite. "Proof" must be absolute not down to what a person considers. However your god is whatever you consider him, her or it is. So your god is personal to you even if you claim to believe in a god presented by a church because it depends on how you personally interpreted their presentation
@moneylots87 (521)
• Indonesia
18 Jan 12
@maidangela7349, i think we are the proof that God existed! How can that we are here, created if there is no Creator? And what religions told what God is, always the same! He is The Creator of all! The Almighty! :)
Salam, peace...
@6precious102 (4043)
• United States
16 Jan 12
I believe God's Holy Spirit will speak to anyone who is sincerely seeking Him. However, I also believe that the enemy will also visit the one seeking a relationship with God. One needs a discerning spirit to recognize whether that still, small voice is God or the enemy. God does not lie. The enemy is the father of lies. What is the spirit telling you? Is it reasonable? If the spirit is tell you to do something that your conscience knows is wrong, you know it's not the true God speaking to you. To know whether or not you're following the true God, you must test the spirit.
@Graptopetalum (1807)
• Canada
18 Jan 12
How do you know your discerning spirit is reliable? How do you know your conscience is reliable?
@moneylots87 (521)
• Indonesia
18 Jan 12
@Graptopetalum, How do you know what you thought as a truth is The Truth??? How do you know what you think this is right is real the right thing??? Are you just live in your own world??? Think your interpretation of something as the real Truth??? Huh!
@moneylots87 (521)
• Indonesia
19 Jan 12
@GRAPTOPETANUS! HEY! I know your SOUL totally LOST! But u dont need to show it here on my peaceful discussion, by spreading hates, lies, harrashments, abuses, etc! U made me think Christianity (ur belief) is the religion which spreads hates, lies, violent words, etc! *thumb down*
@topffer (42156)
• France
15 Jan 12
As my catholic religion includes the "mysteries of faith" that we have to believe and that can't be explained, I will not try to prove that I am following the truth. The world today is divided in believers and non-believers. I think that whatever their religion is, all people believing in God have something in common, and the proof is that we have actually an active interfaith dialogue showing that each religion is opened to other religions : the times of religious intolerance are widely behind us.
@moneylots87 (521)
• Indonesia
15 Jan 12
@topffer, yes! I think no matter u are Hindu, Buddhist, Jewish, Muslem, Christian, Catholic, etc. In some point ur belif teaches the same thing with other religions. Yes i think its important for us to develope more religion tolerances.
@Olleenz (3398)
• Indonesia
18 Jan 12
@Graptopetalum : Please don't attack other people belief. In your case, the problem are not on Muslim holy book but from people itself. They only knew little about their book (religion) but assumed they already know everything. Some of them only belief some verses who suit with their act.
@moneylots87 (521)
• Indonesia
18 Jan 12
@ Graptopetalum! U are trully a HATER! READ ALL UR COMMENTS HERE! U SPREAD HATES IN MY PEACEFUL DISCUSSION! READ BY YOUR SELF!!!
@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
16 Jan 12
Like everything else in life , I know I'm on the right path when it Feels right. It isn't forced in Any way.
@moneylots87 (521)
• Indonesia
18 Jan 12
@sarahruthbeth22, Yes I a agree, there can't be a force to accept the truth! :)
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@carmelanirel (20942)
• United States
15 Jan 12
Like lotterylover said, hard question, but like you said, not impossible.
First of all I will answer as one who uses G♥d Holy Bible and no other book as my answer. That said, if one was to read this book, not as a western world modern mind-set, but a eastern world Hebrew culture and language, many truths are found and makes a lot more sense than most typical Christians believe. Don't get me wrong, there are many good Christians out there, but there are just as many really bad ones who for example: take the "grace" thing out of context as in being able to do what they want because after all, "He forgives our sins"
I am not saying "I know it all" I am saying that I am not satisfied with vague answers to my questions where His word is concerned and I am still learning. I also know that it says that the road is narrow, and though I hate to admit it, I sometimes wonder if I am on the right path. All I can do is to continue to look for the truth, and pray for my eyes and ears to be opened and for a humbleness for when I find that perhaps I am are the wrong path and the grace to change my ways back to Him.
@moneylots87 (521)
• Indonesia
15 Jan 12
@carmelanirel, I am agree with you! And you were right, I am sure most people had that thought "Am I on the right path?" so that we always humbly asking for God's guidance to guide us always in the true path! (I am not saying ur belif is wrong, but just asking us to be more open minded) :)
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@Pose123 (21635)
• Canada
15 Jan 12
Hi moneylots, All holy books hold some truth just as there is good in all religions. Although I was born and raised a Christian, I feel that there are many paths to God but I am a spiritual person who prefers to stay away from religion, as it often does more harm than good. Let our religion be a way of life, treat others the way we would want to be treated if we were in their place and that is religion enough for anyone. Blessings.
@moneylots87 (521)
• Indonesia
15 Jan 12
Hey, Pose123! :) I am really agree with you! I think all regions in this world hold truths in it, thats why God still let those beliefs to still be around here! And yes, I hate why nowdays religion became some kind of tools to harm people! :( It supposed to be blessings for others!...
@1hopefulman (45120)
• Canada
16 Jan 12
God is love! So if I am promoting love of God and love of neighbor by what I say and do than it can only be the right path
@1hopefulman (45120)
• Canada
18 Jan 12
Beautiful! Let us spread love and not hate and God can't help but love us.
@moneylots87 (521)
• Indonesia
18 Jan 12
@1hopefulman, Yes I am agree! :) Ameeennn! God is love (Ar Rahman = The Most Merciful or The Most Loving) Rahman is the root word of Rahmah, Rahmah (feminine) means LOVE in Arabic! :)
@deedee328 (1122)
• United States
16 Jan 12
If you take away the basis for my religious beliefs, then my guide for knowing that I am following the truth would be my heart and conscience. I think we are all born with a moral compass (the basic concept or gut feeling of right and wrong) and that our environment and upbringing influence that compass as we get older, IF we allow these factors to do so. I just think that if you are setting about to do something that gives you pause or doubt, then it is best not to do it. It would be wrong for you to do.
@moneylots87 (521)
• Indonesia
18 Jan 12
@Deedee328, I am agree with you! :) I think we are born with conscience, that tell us which one is good or bad! Think about people who born in remote place like Amazon tribe in the forest which until now live with no information about Cristianity, Islam, Judaism, etc. How do they live their life???
@BJmalone (52)
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17 Jan 12
The way I see it the proof is all around me. If you look through nature you see that everything is paired into opposites, and that they must pass through rest to exchange with each other. For example. there could not be pressure without a vacuum...and pressure cannot become a vacuum until l it has given all its pressure to become 0 before it can start to be a vacuum. vise verse. SO with every single action being pairable with its opposite ...exchanging through rest, means to me that all the power in the universe is rest and from it comes the illusion of motion which is the cycles "atoms" being recreated and riped back apart at the sped of light. We See creation the same way we watch a movie...frame after frame at the speed of light.
@Graptopetalum (1807)
• Canada
22 Jan 12
I don't think this really follows. Vacuum isn't the opposite of pressure, it's a lack of pressure. Not like positive and negative electrical charges, which are opposites of each other. Similarly, there's nothing known that has negative mass. You can't have negative heat, cold is just a small amount of heat (or no heat, if it's absolute zero).
@BJmalone (52)
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23 Jan 12
Honestly the fact that you can't see that a vacuum is the opposite of of pressure I find Shocking. It is very clear to me that you don't truly know what you are saying...no offense meant. "Negative" electricity is the potential for a certain "mass" to except or "PULL" electrons from a "mass" that has extra "electrons" or a "positive" which has so many electrons it gladly gets rid of them. See the pressure of positive which goes away to give the negative side electrons( electron flow "electricity") and at the same time the space that was in the negative side wanting to be filled has to go into the positive side...if there wasn't empty space to fill the hole in where the electron was then what replaces all those holes when the electrons leave. Yes you can have negative heat its called cold, and it is relativistic to how you look at it and you have to look at everything the same. Ask yourself this... if there was no such thing as a vacuum could pressure exist. If there was no such thing as dark would there be light? what is one if not having an opposite to compare it to? If you didn't have "absolute zero" then could something be hot? no it has to start somewhere. now once it is started if you give it heat (something with more "heat energy") it will give cold to the thing trying to heat it as it is colder then it. so for a second it makes the hot thing colder where it is touched until the heating object heats the other to an equilibrium then they would be the same temperature. If there was no such thing as cold there could never be a condition where heat could cool down...it would get hotter forever. The only way it can cool is to give heat to the air or something surrounding in and taking in the cold until equalized or trying for infinity. (NEGATIVE MASS IS EMPTY SPACE!!!) BTW ....if there was no space to be in could matter (mass) exist?
AND..my favorite, gravity. todays science says that all bodies pull towards all bodies, to me that means eventually the universe will be a singularity...but they say its expanding so how can a bunch of things pulling towards each other be expanding?
@_sketch_ (5742)
• United States
16 Jan 12
I'm nonreligious. I really do not know if I am following "the truth" or not, but uncertainty is definitely a good thing in my eyes. I am much more interested in seeking the truth than being right, so I am open to any idea that crosses my path. This is why I am not a fan of religion. It does not allow for flexibility. You believe what the religion says and that's the end of it. Many religions discourage against any questioning. I have been fought on this, but with the word "faith" being held in such high esteem, I really don't see how it's an argument.
As for proof supporting my beliefs, I'd say that my beliefs agree with science. I don't believe in anything that's supernatural. I believe in energy, and energy follows the rules of physics.
I guess I use a lot of deductive reasoning too. I read up on different religious and spiritual paths, and knocked out the ones with contradictions and violent traditions. I think that looking at other beliefs is very essential if you are one seeking the truth. So many people only learn about their own religion; don't care what anyone else has to say because they know that they are right. This type of thinking creates a bias that is virtually impenetrable, leaving no room for debate or any personal growth.