you blame a wrong person, sir
By adhyz82
@adhyz82 (36249)
Indonesia
25 responses
@topffer (42156)
• France
31 Jan 12
If the mistake was not mine, I would try to prove it without involving somebody else. It is why it can also be a boss strategy. As an executive, I have several times blamed voluntarily the wrong person. It is difficult to fire somebody not doing correctly his job in my country, and it can be useless to blame him, but blaming a friend gives often good results on the diligence of the guilty one, who takes more care of his friends remarks -- "I don't want to be blamed at your place !" -- than of his boss remarks.
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@bounce58 (17387)
• Canada
16 Feb 12
I think that if you don't stand up for yourself, then people would always walk all over you. Even if it's your boss, you should still get your voice out and let him know that it isn't your fault. You may refrain from telling him who's fault it really is, but you should make it clear that it isn't yours.
I think he/she would even appreciate it that you stand up for yourself.
@henkiprananda (2729)
• Indonesia
31 Jan 12
i more agree with first response. even we do right thing, but remember, boss always right. just patience, if we still need that job. and remember, don't blame other for anything, be brave.
@henkiprananda (2729)
• Indonesia
31 Jan 12
well,that is life. you not do some mistake but your bos will angry you for other mistake. i always get it. but i never give up.
@MissPiggy (1748)
• Indonesia
31 Jan 12
First, I'm so glad to have my manager now. He always tries to be a fair leader. I prefer to call him "leader", not "boss". He always knows how to talk to his employees. To me, he's just perfect. Well, this "perfect" doesn't mean that he's always right. In fact, we can always tell him that he's wrong, but we must have the correct reason. Somehow, not all of my friends dare to tell him everything. While me, I usually say it right through to him. Whenever he's wrong, I'd tell him. But, I won't tell him in front of other staff. If he accuses me of doing something wrong in front if other staff (usually he does this in management meeting), I usually wait until I have the time alone with him, and give my argument. So far, he can always accept my argument. He's ever told one of my trusted friend that he likes talking to me because I'm smart. Heheheheh... (I got a big head) :D But he can also be cruel to me when I'm lazy. Lol. I don't blame him for that. :D
@MissPiggy (1748)
• Indonesia
31 Jan 12
Why are you speechless? And by the way, if you have a nice leader (or maybe boss), he would understand if you defend yourself. One note, as long as you're right, there's nothing wrong in defending ourselves.
And I'm Miss Piggy. Lol.
@JER616 (545)
• Philippines
31 Jan 12
Here are two of the unwritten rules in the workplace:
Rule 1: The boss is always right.
Rule 2: If the boss is not right, refer to rule 1.
@MissPiggy (1748)
• Indonesia
31 Jan 12
Lol. Those are silly. :D No one is right all the time. Even boss is also a human being. :D
@luntian_grace (1373)
• Philippines
1 Feb 12
i had been this predicament and it does hurt a lot. first off i gave my opinion that the project will doom to crush down the toilet... did they listen NO! i fought hard for them to listen... all they said was the boss is always right he is the boss in the first place. so there is nothing i can do but execute the orders...
and like what i warned them it did doomed and went down to the toilet...in the end they blame me for all of it. so i quit!
@luntian_grace (1373)
• Philippines
3 Feb 12
yeah it's really hard... they think your less of a person... i know that i am not... i know i am better than my boss... wiser and more intelligent... the thing is she just can't handle the facts that somebody is actually better that her...
but if somebody is better than me and give me scenario A and B... then i grab them. i know it will save all our butts in the end... but the team leader/ project manager can't... then point the finger to me after everything. i can't tell the big bosses for she is the one that makes the reports and not us. heart breaking! so i quite that job!
@purplealabaster (22091)
• United States
31 Jan 12
I guess that it would depend upon what I was being blamed for, whether or not I knew who the guilty party was, whether or not I could prove that I was innocent without implicating someone else, and how I felt about the guilty party. The answers to these questions would more or less determine how I would react. I would probably try to prove my innocence without implicating someone else if possible ... unless the other person really deserved to be in trouble, that is.
@adhyz82 (36249)
• Indonesia
31 Jan 12
the problem is if i convince or defending my position, of course i must attack somebody else for proving that iam clear and no guilty
thats the problem
i don`t want to attack someone even she or he (i dont know which person report me) attack me first time
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@purplealabaster (22091)
• United States
31 Jan 12
That is a difficult position to be put in. I can understand not wanting to implicate someone else, especially if you do not know whether or not they attacked you first. It would be much better if you could somehow manage to prove your innocence without having to attack someone else and implicate them as the guilty party.
@ASHUDEEP (1774)
• India
31 Jan 12
hi friend first of all i will not say anything to boss at present time and not admit my mistake and then try to gather evidences to prove that behind this mistake their is not my hand and then i hopes that boss know the truth and boss will say sorry because he make wrong blame on me.
@starsailover (7829)
• Mexico
5 Feb 12
Hi adhyz: We are talking about my boss so it's better not to discuss to much with him/ her. I would try to make him/ her noticed that he/ she is about to make a big mistake but if he/ she is feeling too angry to hear me I let it pass and later when we could be in a more peaceful situation I would try to explain my boss what has really happened.
ALVARO
@megamatt (14292)
• United States
1 Feb 12
Yeah that is frustrating, but that is just something that is going to happen a lot. There are just some bosses who are going to find the most convenient scapegoat right out there. Even if what they are blaming you for was their idea in the first place. That is just one of those rules of some work places. If something goes right, then obviously it was because of great leadership skills. If something goes wrong, it is your fault.
Funnily enough, bosses will have their favorites, but often time they will put the blame on anyone but themselves. When what happened can boil down to the absolute poorest leadership skills imaginable. There are just going to be a lot of times where you just have to sit back and take it, even if you know it is their fault, their dumb idea, but obviously it would be unwise to say that.
@atleya (946)
• Indonesia
15 Feb 12
For me, "NO". I can not accept if I do not make mistake but someone, including my boss blame me. That's not fair, I think. We should clarify the truth matter. However., if really I made mistake, so I will ask for apology. I will admit my fault. That's my attitude.
@adhyz82 (36249)
• Indonesia
15 Feb 12
thats my attitude too
if i make mistake for my boss, i will ask apology
sometimes there are another power who want to make you down in the office and in the eyes of our boss
and the boss only hear one voice and never ask our comments..what a pity if you are in under that situation
@lekhya (819)
• India
1 Feb 12
I feel there is no use in discussing...because "a boss is always a boss",he will never agree with u,EVEN IF HE KNOWS THAT "U ARE RIGHT".He wont.Most of them are egoistic and can never hurt their ego.Trying to defend your self,is a mere waste of time.Its better to be silent and prove yourself when you get the opportunity.Someday or the other he will get to know the reality.
@Heixyin (175)
• Malaysia
5 Feb 12
That would depend on my mood actually. Though, that would be stupid. The right thing would be explaining the truth to the boss. Well, for me, there are times that I would just let it slip by. I'll just show a bored or poker face when being scold by him. Indirectly pissing him off. Cruel ain't I? Digging my own grave in a way. Sometimes I'd feel that it's not worth it telling him, a waste of time and energy, I'd say. Haha! So yea, that's me. Consider employing me if you meet me next time xD
@airasheila (5454)
• Philippines
1 Feb 12
hi there adhyz82,
wow, its kind a bulls-eye to me when i have read your topic. that i remember before my situation on my previous company. that my boss always yelling on me although i am not the reason why a mistake was committed. hence, i guess, it is a part of my job, to be an absorber of a bad situation. thus, during those times, i am not doing anything except after office hours, i just look at the sky and praying, that God will talk to my boss and tell him, not to do it again to me.
@IntrovertShy (2780)
• Marikina, Philippines
1 Feb 12
The world is very unfair but we have to accept it no matter what happen. Okay... this is what I learn from my trainor. The boss always accuse our trainor during his days, he just stay calm and he did not have any against with his boss even if he did not do anything wrong -- he would speak in a nice way so that the boss would understand him. Be obedient and even if the boss would not believe you, at the end -- the boss would say sorry to you because they realize that they commit a mistake and they feel guilty about it.
This is the experience of our trainor when I was still taking a course in 'hotel restaurant management' -- based on his experience, the boss put him in the higher rank postion because of what he did from the past.
I think that is the ultimate secret.
@erricgunawan (611)
• Indonesia
1 Feb 12
Step 1. Try to defend ourselves. Of course give a good and strong argument. Just to make sure that we are right.
Step 2. If the boss willing to understand, case closed. (Usually people would say 'no', so straight on Step 3).
Step 3. How much you can endure such kind of boss? If you can, then stay. If not, then find another workplace. That's it. :)
I've once had a big argue with my boss and my HR Manager.
In the end, i stood on my argument. And I left.
And i'm happy with my current workplace now. :)
@microengineer (587)
• Indonesia
1 Feb 12
Classic question. I ve been into quarrel with my boss several time regarding to the topic you mentioned above. For me, i will look at the situation when to be frank or just accept the angriness. We need to have strategy in dealing with this topic.