Faith Without Facts Is Supersition
By MoonGypsy
@MoonGypsy (4606)
United States
April 29, 2012 3:21pm CST
do yo agree with this saying? i heard it just a few minutes ago. i rang too many bells. people who have fundemental beliefs about there religion base do not base their beliefs on facts. to me faith only comes about when you have the facts that your heart, mind, body, and soul can receive. i am not downing anyone's religion. i am just asking. if you are religious, share your beliefs and if they are based on fact or just blind faith. i don't go for anything that i can't get some facts to back up my belief.
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@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
30 Apr 12
Faith is the substance (material) of the unseen. If our faith is not based on what is real, what is true, and what is righteous it is not faith at all.
Many people do believe blindly, never questioning. I believe God wants us to seek out the truth. Faith is knowing that the truth can be found.
@MoonGypsy (4606)
• United States
30 Apr 12
i like how you say that faith holds us up until we have all the facts. you are so right. that is a better way for me to swallow the blind faith thing. it's like courting. faith is what attracts you and keeps you there long enough to learn. time, history, and facts is what keeps you there for good.
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
30 Apr 12
One more thought, we may not have all the facts but faith holds us up until we do.
@vandana7 (100617)
• India
30 Apr 12
I think it is a vicious cycle. Faith is followed by reasoning, and reasoning is followed by faith. We cant really see gravity, but we experience it - right?
I also think that everything in the universe has a perfect logical sequence including our actions and reactions. By the time we decipher it, a new puzzle is ready before us to decipher. We can either choose to ignore it or spend time trying to make sense out of it. We normally choose to ignore because we need our time for our day to day chores.
@MoonGypsy (4606)
• United States
30 Apr 12
very well put. i couldn't have said better myself. i like what you said about experiencing things without seeing it. no, i don't see gravity, but the evidence of it is there. i guess that's the best way i will describe "faith" to my kids. what a great idea. i also think living and learning are infinite for us, just not in this life time. THE CREATOR OF THE UNIVERSE does not have to learn, IT is life. the course is to get back to the source.
@vandana7 (100617)
• India
30 Apr 12
When software programs are written by different teams. and it is necessary to test the program written by one team without the module from other, a stub is used. Similarly, we use a stub mentally...till we get adequate time, acquire adequate knowledge and reasoning abilities to solve the puzzle at each stub.
@barehugs (8973)
• Canada
30 Apr 12
I used to be a believer, but there was not enough fact in the fiction!
For instance- God's Love is Famous. We are told to love God, and to forgive.
Colossians 3:13 Bear with each other and forgive whatever grievances you may have against one another. Forgive as the Lord forgave you. (NIV)
And then we are told-
So it will be at the end of the age; the angels shall come forth, and take out the wicked from among the righteous, and will cast them into the furnace of fire; there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
(Matthew 13:49-50)
@MoonGypsy (4606)
• United States
30 Apr 12
that is the part i can't get with myself. is god a mean, hateful, scary being? is god a being of love and understanding? how could he expects us to forgive if he ultimately can't forgive us. i know. i know. we had our chance, but that's more of a human thought. humans give chances the creator is not supposed to right?
@lady1993 (27224)
• Philippines
30 Apr 12
I think faith is believing in something that you cannot prove but you just know it in your heart that it is real or you feel it- well, that's just my definition.. You can't really prove anything about God unless you die.. so it's all up to the person
@MoonGypsy (4606)
• United States
30 Apr 12
i also think that it is up to the person. someone who doesn't believe in THE CREATOR OF THE UNIVERSE could say they have just as much proof of the opposite.
@iuliuxd (4453)
• Romania
30 Apr 12
That`s a silly saying.Once you know something it is no longer faith.If tomorrow Jesus will come again and you will accept the existence of God as a fact you can no longer say i believe in God just like you don`t say i believe i need air and water in order to survive.You know you need air and water in order to survive.
@MoonGypsy (4606)
• United States
30 Apr 12
i know that i need air and water to survive because it is evident. there is also scientific proof. i wouldn't suggest you test out the theory. lol. what i don't know is whether or not i need some holy savior to survive or be saved.
@AwesomeGuy250 (334)
• United States
30 Apr 12
I agree with this. People will go about their religion like it is fact. Yet they rarley question what they believe. As many religions say if you question such things, you'll goto Hell. I mean shouldn't that raise any red flags? People should at least think about it. Mark Twain said "Fath is believing what you know ain't so, and if Christ were here now there is one thing he would not be - a christian." I really agree with this quote. It makes a lot of sense. I think people should really stop and think for a few moments and look deeper into what is fact and what is not.
@MoonGypsy (4606)
• United States
30 Apr 12
lol. i like that alot because i don't believe that Christ was christrian. that was made up by groupies that probably didn't even know him. i also think that Christ would criticize christianity for all it's flaws. don't get me wrong, i think he would criticize a lot of religions for it's flaws. i don't believe any religion is really the full deal, though all of them are correct in some way.
@Bluedoll (16773)
• Canada
29 Apr 12
I understand what you are saying and though your thinking certainly does make sense to me I would say I can not agree with the phrase. The phrase does not make sense to me at all because faith is believing in the unseen, sometimes things that do not make sense by facts alone. This is what having faith actually is. (spiritually defined)
Superstition though it sometimes has a religious character is never in relation to a faith in God, so in this care it is impossible to have both. If a person has faith in God then they are not superstitious. The two things are completely different.
This phrase “faith without facts” really applies on how we define blind. Having faith does not necessary mean you are blind if you do not have facts or scientific proofs for example. We can have faith by obtaining spiritual truths such as a believe in God’s love and that is all that is required.
@MoonGypsy (4606)
• United States
30 Apr 12
i like your point of view. i do believe in THE ALL LOVING CREATOR OF THE UNIVERSE. i have faith that the being is there because of what is evident...in what we see. no human being knows how to create all of this, or even bigger the universe. obvious knowledge in that establishes enough fact for me that it's a real thing. "God's" (or who ever you refer to) love is good. i do know that, but i have no proof. so you are right on that note. faith is belief in things unseen.
@rashmimohan (46)
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29 Jan 13
I am religious. Few incidents lead to blind faith at times, but you cannot go with that always.I think facts also should go with your beliefs .