Connect the Dots. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Downfall of America

But if you think about it, THAT fits in with Obama's illegal presidency, his socialist, anticolonialist 'dream' for America, and all the saavy (cleverly disguised as ineptitude) the last four years. It was set up for him, then they inserted him into this out of total obscurity as a junior do nothing senator, and his charisma carries it all through.

If this was a true socialist society, US citizens would not be allowed to criticize Obama, so you are just stating the same political rhetoric the GOP has been spewing since he took office. The downfall of this country involves every single citizen in it, and it will take the efforts of every citizen working together to rebuild it. From the greedy business men taking advantage of government bailouts to the unemployed layabouts who decided not to look for work. The problem is no one wants to accept their blame. I did my part, I over borrowed and when the bills got to overwhelming I gave up. I lost my house, my credits bad and I quit my job so I could stay at home to take care of my children. I do my best to not sponge off the system, and I make a little money with my writing. I plan to do more but with baby twins its hard until they are old enough to go to school. Maybe one day I'll write a book that becomes a best seller, then I can pay all my debts and help contribute more.

The not criticizing, he's working on that. You can now be arrested for shouting out at a gathering where the secret service is in attendence. Many other laws to numerous to mention. I don't 'spew' rhetoric. I've read the history of this mess, it goes back a long way. And it's not just Democrats that are at fault. You are correct, it is everyone's fault, for allowing themselves to become apathetic and greedy. Don't throw out capitalism for the greed of a few men who can tell YOU what to do with your life and the lives of your twins. The Constitution worked until the American people stopped being vigilant and elected superstars instead of statesmen who truly were Constitutionalists. I wish for you prosperity, and a best seller! YOU will make it. Only if we vote this man out of office in November, if he gets another four years, I'm not so sure.

Do you not find it strange that George Soros, who is a billionaire, is giving money to OWS (through his foundations) when what OWS is against is rich fat cats getting richer? Or isn't it weird that some of those rich fat cats are donating millions to Obama's war chest? When he's promised to 'make them pay their 'fair' share'? None of it makes sense. The downfall did begin a long time ago. I do agree. But the pace has definately increased in the last decade. Ben Franklin has been quoted as saying when asked what the constitutional convention had wrought; a Republic, if you can keep it, he answered. "We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge, or gallantry, would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." John Adams (The Works of John Adams, ed. C. F. Adams, Boston: Little, Brown Co., 1851, 4:31) "If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen." Samuel Adams "If ever time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin." Samuel Adams "Without morals a republic cannot subsist any length of time; they therefore who are decrying the Christian religion, whose morality is so sublime and pure (and) which insures to the good eternal happiness, are undermining the solid foundation of morals, the best security for the duration of free governments." Charles Carroll, signer of the Declaration of Independence "Every step we take towards making the State our Caretaker of our lives, by that much we move toward making the State our Master." Dwight D. Eisenhower THE PEOPLE lost the country when THE PEOPLE left off being moral. You do not have to be a practicing Christian to be a moral person. But when you actively destroy the morality of the Christian religion, you open the floodgates of human nature to do anything, to hate, to steal, to kill, to lie. There ARE those who will say, if there is no God, we can do as we like. The sad sad truth about human nature is without rules and the threat of punishment, it is capable of great evil. And that is just what we have in America today. We have taken the idea of keeping the government out of religion, that Jefferson taught, and taken it to mean that religion's morality should be kept out of government. You cannot have good government without morality.

Oh, I agree. But the people are spoiled and they don't like to be told no. They throw fits like spoiled children in wal mart when they can't have the $50 toy. Look at the riots in Europe. Even on here, you talk about the right's budget recommendations and you get people all riled up saying the right hates women and babies. And I've said over and over, MORALITY does not need RELIGION. I mentioned Christianity because it was the religion of the founding fathers and THEY said people must be moral to be able to keep the republic. You want so badly to insert that we do not need 'religion' you don't see that I am able to separate religion from morality.

Interesting bit of history. You ended your previous post talking about how we had taken religion out of government and that took all the morality out of it. That's my exact problem, I separate morality from religion, I don't think we need any religions morality to guide us as a country as long as we act in the best interest of everyone. Far different than enforcing the prejudices of a majority group. That aside, I do agree we are potentially headed into the biggest disaster ever seen in American history. I'll even agree that we are controlled by constant turmoil and living paycheck to paycheck, and that an elite few having power is never good. But what would be you're solution to all this? I can tell you mine. It's to stop borrowing from banks, and taking out loans, stop being an indentured servant. Buy you're own means of production, work for yourself or as part of a small local business, that's what I'm trying to do. If everyone did that we could beat this crisis. Just like the people who went through the depression did and stopped taking out loans and gambling on wall street, creating the most prosperous time frame known to man. But it takes a lot to give up you're nice car and put all you're money to paying off your house if you can even afford to buy one, it's hard not to have all these things we're expected to have. But if everyone starts to change, it will get easier and well all be better off.

I expect that from them.

You did notice that Francis Fox Pivens was leading the charge? Have you read the Cloward Pivens strategy? Overwhelm the system and bring it down was/is the plan.