Should A Woman Be Allowed To Become The Pope

I don't know if it is true or not and clearly the Catholic church would seek to cover it up but I understand there are a number of accounts of the events in existence. I would think that there is a much evidence to support the story as there is for many of the stories in the bible. Also why would anyone make up such a story

I don`t think that has to do anything with history it`s a legend invented by some people.But it`s not surprising to see that we take what serves our beliefs as truth even if there isn`t any single evidence to support it.

I was hoping to learn a little history in this discussion. Things have come a long way since the 9th century like the whole women's rights movement, maybe it's time to open it up for discussion again.

But essentially I referring to the head of the Roman Catholic church, although I did not know that's what Pope meant.

The catholic church wants to keep the mass in accordance with its historical model -- the last supper of the Christ surrounded by his apostles -- : the priest is not only a function, he represents the Christ in his human identity as a man. For the catholic church it is a good theological reason to not admit women to be priests. It is the same reason for the Pope : he represents the Christ, so he has to be a man because the Christ was a man. In fact any catholic man can become Pope, not only a member of the clergy. What you call "backwards thinking" is a dogma for Catholic and Orthodox churches, and you don't discuss a dogma. I don't think that it is a shame when a religion wants to keep its traditions. The catholic church is not sexist as I read in a response here : catholic women are well represented in theological institutes, the International theological commission, Roman congregations, episcopal councils, etc.

I think change is inevitable, and it happens when people question traditions. The reasons you have just given may be sound t you, but they look a bit flimsy to me, and i speak as someone who was baptized in a Catholic church and a man.

It's a shame to see such backwards thinking. Think of some of the scandal the church has seen lately, perhaps its time the church join the new millenium

I doubt equality of both sexes is part of the tenet of this religion and many others, most of the woman followers in religion nowsaday don't really like to challenge the rule and policy of male dominated leadership, they often being brainwashed and readily accept the establishment's doctrine that it is the God's law that women can't hold the highest office in the establishment as it is, they have to be obedience and dress in certain way to please the establishment's leadership; they often being told not to protest against God's rule. So long as those women are happy with the rule, and don't feel its discriminatory nature, don't want to voice out their own opinion, i guess backward thinking is going to stay much more longer than you can imagine among many religion orders not just in Catholicism.

It does seem very sexist, but will the church be stuck in this sort of backward thinking forever? Are there no women who will voice there opinion for change. Women have the right to become Presidents and World Leader, but in this one aspect of life where there is no equality, which could be considered the most important aspect of life to some people where are the women to raise there voice?

It sounds so wrong, but I guess if there is going to be change it has to come from the desire for it.

Brilliant my friend. You see, we already had such religious demise in the ancient past. We are just reliving everything all over again. Great societies have been recorded to exist. Ancient Greek cities, the Ancient Summerians, the Mayan societies, the Great Roman Empire and the over debated existence of Atlantis. All these societies share similarities to our own. They had religious beliefs, they had governing bodies, commerce and industry. Which means they weren't short of what we have today, but somewhere along the line they were just wiped out or vanished or have been subdued or the people may have revolted and have been scattered to pursue life elsewhere. All the same they had government and religion that didn't work and thus the grasp of control failed. So I'm hoping that we as an intelligent species learn from the past that religion really never works. Religion from time and time again is only used for control. It does nothing but leave us with questions which they do not want answered. Of course that is pretty obvious why. We have seen greek faith that have been left to become mythology. heheh. So if the human race evolves well enough beyond our mundane intelligence we will see the fall of the greatest religion we know of today. I won't even say what they are as I do not share their belief. Unless of course we are duped into another form of faith - I can assure you that they are working on that now just in case people come to a realization, rather the blinding true revelation of mind slavery and we revolt. hehe. Perhaps those in religious power will have to take drastic measures to ensure that in the future a new religion will have to be derived from the old. Perhaps a new promise will be concocted for the continuing saga of mind control. hehe. As for being stubborn, it is none of our fault as we have been misled from day 1. For purposes of research, I actually made religion to a tool to influence a lot of people in my small turf. I proved to myself I can use religion no matter how much I twist it as long as people had faith in me they will follow like mice. Don't worry I didn't rip them off or anything, I just made up some quotes which didn't even exist in the Bible and they all said... Amen. Now do you see how a more powerful individual or a group can manipulate the masses at will.

That is so wrong. LOL. You need to stop manipulating people. Even if they have the mentality of hamsters running on the wheel, it isn't fair for you to dangle food in front of them to see how fast they run. No more human guinea pigs. You will use mice like evWolveren.eryone else

I see your point. I guess people are entitled to be stubborn. I foresee one day when Catholicism and other religions will be seen the same way we see Mythology.

Very clever twist of words. I could see that as a newspaper headline if a woman actually became Pope.I know the Catholic church will not allow women to reach priesthood, and if they can't reach that level there is no hope of a woman Pope, but shouldn't there be some equality in religion.

I may not be able to force them, but I can sure brow beat them LOL. It's not point to force them to change. It's my point to make people question what they are believing in.

I believe a woman would offer a different view point for sure, perhaps do things to make religion more equal between both sexes.

no, I don't, but it is a tradition, I did not like what I saw in the Catholic church, so I left, I know a lot of woman that are very good priests around here, I have a lot of friends, but I don't think that we have to change the church for what we believe, or we believe in the church or his teachings or not. I chose leave the Church and I am happy this way, but if I could change the religion, it would be different.

Now did you agree with these teaching? You have seen women lead countries, and successful businesses,what makes you think they would not be able to lead the church. Maybe centuries ago when women were looked upon as less than human and weren't allowed to read and write, they wouldn't have made effective leaders, but now women have an equal say in all matters accept religion. How long before women stop practicing these religions?

You hit the nail right on the head. The religion didn't work with your personal beliefs in God, so you chose to follow your own path. Imagine if everyone did this, would there even be such thing as a Catholic anymore.

I would be most interested to see how a woman's perspective would change the church. It would be a good experiment even for just a day.