The Tree of Life
By redhotpogo
@redhotpogo (4401)
United States
June 1, 2012 12:33am CST
In Genesis Adam and Eve were told by God that they could eat fruit from any tree in the Garden of Eden, except for the tree in the middle known as the "Tree of Knowledge". If they did they would die. They were tricked into eating the fruit from that tree by a serpent and so began mankind's curse.
There was another tree that God didn't want them to eat from after that happened called the "Tree of Life".
Genesis 3:22 And the Lord God said, “The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever.” 23 So the Lord God banished him from the Garden of Eden to work the ground from which he had been taken. 24 After he drove the man out, he placed on the east side of the Garden of Eden cherubim and a flaming sword flashing back and forth to guard the way to the tree of life.
I'm guessing that God never told them about the Tree of Life that had been there the whole time. My question is why hadn't they ate from it? They could have. He said not to touch the Tree of Knowledge. Was there something unappealing about that tree that they just didn't want to touch it? Or was this garden so big that they just never saw it?
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@CODYMAC (1356)
• San Diego, California
1 Jun 12
Hello, redhotpogo. Well, I know many people believe it was called "the tree of knowledge", but in reality it was called "the tree of the knowledge of good and evil".
He wanted them to eat from the tree of life. He told them that they could eat from it. "And YAHVAH Mighty One commanded Adam, saying, 'You may eat food from every tree in the garden, but from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you may not eat, because in the day you eat from it, you will surely die."
Anyway, to get back to your question...
They never ate from it because they were only in the garden for one day. He was formed on the seventh day, and he sinned the same day he was formed. The garden was a place of pleasure, and he was to protect it and work it.
Adam was formed innocent, but not immortal. He only knew truth, and didnt know either good or evil...what was appealing about the tree when Eve was tricked, was the want to have the ability to "know" both good and evil.
It was the ability to "know" the things GOD knows, that was what was really appealing.
I hope that this made some difference.
@bunnybon7 (50973)
• Holiday, Florida
2 Jun 12
codymac you are absolutely right. ive asked both my sons here and they say the same thing. it seems we ALWAYS want what we cant have! and thats the whole thing. Both my youngest and oldest sons here are practicly scholars in the Bible. they read it a lot. its why i love them so much for that. good men, like you.
@redhotpogo (4401)
• United States
1 Jun 12
I'm not really sure if it's called the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil. You are correct that is what a lot of Christians say, and that is what is taught, but think about it. What difference would eating that fruit do? Did they gain knowledge of good and evil after they ate it? No. They already had knowledge of good and evil. They already knew it was bad to eat the fruit.
How do you know they were only there for 1 day?
@barehugs (8973)
• Canada
1 Jun 12
What a bunch of crap! Not even in the same class as Stories from the Brother's Grimm. The Grimm Bros at least advertized their stories as fairy tales. There are many examples of Great Fairy Tales! The Three Little Pigs, for example. In this story the Big Bad Wolf comes at night and blows down the house of one of the 3 little pigs. This is recommended reading for preschoolers, but even at that age they don't take it for the truth!
@redhotpogo (4401)
• United States
2 Jun 12
If you don't believe the bible then why bother to comment on it?
@matersfish (6306)
• United States
2 Jun 12
Could be that folks who believe in the Bible are kicking down school doors to put their book before science books like they're doing some places here. Or maybe that folks are using their Bible to dictate how everyone else should live. But I'm not sure what's going on in Canada. I just know that there are plenty of reasons for people who don't believe in it to actually speak up on it. Why should someone be silent on it?
@JohnRok1 (2051)
•
2 Jun 12
Barehugs, you're a troll!
No, seriously, Matersfish, we creationists are only demanding that in education our belief should be taken seriously as a scientific theory and discussed as such alongside evolution. We didn't originate this idea: It was Laplace who said to Napoleon about creation, "I wasn't needing that hypothesis!".
@ladygator (3465)
• United States
2 Jun 12
I am not sure about it. But I think that reason that it didnt seem appealing is maybe because the serpent didnt pursued them to eat from it. He knew what would happen if they ate the from the tree of life. And the Tree of life would give them the knowledge not only to what many things, but also to what the devils motives were.
@ladygator (3465)
• United States
3 Jun 12
Okay, so then thats it. You answered your own question. Cool.
@redhotpogo (4401)
• United States
2 Jun 12
But they were only told they can't eat from the TOK. So they wouldn't need to be tempted to eat from the TOL.
@redhotpogo (4401)
• United States
7 Jun 12
So you're saying it's basically subliminal. If God hadn't have told them you can't eat this, then they wouldn't have ate it?
@matersfish (6306)
• United States
1 Jun 12
Why were these things on trees in the first place? God coulda just put it anywhere, did anything, etc. Plus he already knew they were gonna be tricked into eating the apple, because he supposedly knows all. So this stuff just gets confusing for me.
There's a Tree of Life movie I've been wanting to see though.
@redhotpogo (4401)
• United States
1 Jun 12
I don't really know. I have wondered that myself too. Could be some kind of test, but I don't know for sure.
@matersfish (6306)
• United States
2 Jun 12
Well, I won't go into a 3,000 word rant about these things. But I have always found it quite odd that the supposedly most divine and perfect and infallible thing one could ever imagine is so easily confused and interpreted in a million different ways. One might assume that perfection would be perfectly understood without having to interpret it sideways to fit a square peg into a circle. One might expect perfection to act perfectly instead of fumbling around.
I just hope the apple actually tasted good. I've had some really bad ones before.
@visavis (5934)
• Philippines
1 Jun 12
Hi there,
This is a good discussion but before I put my points. Are you really know these verses or just read it for the sake of discussion....
Anyway here is my idea about your question: Yes your partly correct about the tree of knowledge and tree of life both are not really appealing or just like a normal tree. Unlike the other tree that they eat - it was very decieving in the eays, beautiful and look like tasty to eat...
@redhotpogo (4401)
• United States
2 Jun 12
Yes. I agree with that. We need God to Live.
Don't worry. A lot of people don't think I'm Christian. I don't know how many times I've been saved. People just look at me and assume I'm evil I guess. They work so hard to convert me and I feel so bad for the effort they put in that I can't say no. I just let them go ahead and save me. lol. I always question things in the bible. It doesn't mean I don't believe these things. I just think it's good to question everything to get a better understanding of it.
@redhotpogo (4401)
• United States
1 Jun 12
What do you mean do I know these verses? I know them as they are in my bible and I am a Christian, but as to the true meaning of it all I do not.
Yeah. That would be my guess about not being appealing. What better way to keep people from eating it then to make people not want to eat it in the first place.
@visavis (5934)
• Philippines
1 Jun 12
Oh really your a Christian... sorry i thought your not...
Anyway, if you compare it in real life people always eating the forbiden tree which represent material things that push us away from God. We should need God in our life to become part of the Tree of Life
@JohnRok1 (2051)
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2 Jun 12
The Tree of Life reappears in Revelation, which makes it clear that it is picture of Christ Himself. If we eat of Christ, we keep eating of Him. Similarly, to eat and live for ever, Adam and Eve would expect to keep eating of the Tree of Life; though, as Matthew Henry points out, that tree did not, of itself, have the power to give life, but their being allowed to continue eating of it might have given them the idea that God would be obligated to keep them alive.
Eating of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil was a "sacrament" of rebellion. It was saying to God, "We are going to know good and know evil, thoroughly knowing both"; it wasn't just knowing the difference, but knowing both by participation.
Luther (and Matthew Henry follows him) suggested that Genesis 3:22 was spoken in mockery. I think Luther's right, because God didn't know evil in the way his creatures now did (Indeed, it was only when He was made sin for us that He fully came to know evil). Further support comes from the observation that God doesn't finish His sentence with words, as you would expect, but with a wordless, metaphorical kick up the backside, throwing man out of the garden. "You think you can defeat my sentence by going and eating from the Tree of Life? You can forget that one," (I'm putting words into His mouth - He didn't say that, of course) Wham! OUT!!!
@jirexpress (155)
• United States
2 Jun 12
I must say since GOD knows the begining and end of everything it wasnt a suprise to HIM what happened in the garden, it was all according to HIS PLAN
@sukumar794 (5040)
• Thiruvananthapuram, India
1 Jun 12
Perhaps knowledge had little relevance in the primitive era. Hunger and shelter were the needs of the humans.In their craving for the fruit which appeared quite delicious man must have failed to seek the TREE of knowledge.
@redhotpogo (4401)
• United States
1 Jun 12
No. They found the Tree of Knowledge. It was the Tree of Life that they didn't find.
@redhotpogo (4401)
• United States
1 Jun 12
Yes. My name is Abel and I've been living on the Earth as a zombie.
No. They said it in the bible. The TOK they ate from when they were tricked by the snake. It was in the middle of the garden.
@jdyrj777 (6528)
• United States
6 Jun 12
Maybe the did eat from it. But the effects of it (life) changed after they ate from the tree they were not supposed to eat from. Adam lived to be 930 years old. Gen.5:5. Because they were also told if they ate from the tree of knowledge they would die. Gen.3:3.
@redhotpogo (4401)
• United States
7 Jun 12
Nah, they hadn't eatin from it, because had said that they must be kept from eating it or they would be like them and live forever. That phrase in the scripture lets you know that they had not touched it yet.
@blessing2u (496)
• Philippines
1 Jun 12
I am a novice about the bible but I think that it has a lot of meaning and interpretation. It is just a willful disobedience on the part of the created Adam and Eve. Instead of obeying what God had said, they chose to eat what has been forbidden. I think that the tree of life is also there all the time but it was not told them. Even if they had been there much, they would have not eaten that fruit because nobody will tempt them to do so. It is easy to eat something that has been told us not to eat than to eat what has not been said. Anyway, blessings to you.
@redhotpogo (4401)
• United States
1 Jun 12
It's true. I've heard that the devil hates mankind, and of course he would want them to eat the Tree of Knowledge and die instead of the Tree of Life and live forever.
@bunnybon7 (50973)
• Holiday, Florida
2 Jun 12
yes they could. plus the snake had legs! and got them taken away by God
@redhotpogo (4401)
• United States
1 Jun 12
Well maybe, but they did do very well to not touch it until they were tricked. I think the first sign something was up would be a talking snake, but I wasn't there. Maybe they could talk to animals back then.
@Bhurishrava (696)
• India
2 Jun 12
That story is only a myth for which could be a hidden meaning. To think that it really happened is absurd.
@jirexpress (155)
• United States
2 Jun 12
Well many choose some of the Bible then some all or none, its all True but its up to you to try to prove it wrong. HIS WORD live and is able to lead you to all of the Truth
@veganbliss (3895)
• Adelaide, Australia
1 Jun 12
Yeah, there's plenty of questions that keep popping up when we take a literalist view of these stories, isn't there?
Here's my take on the situation:
Have you ever been to a tropical climate on holidays for a couple of weeks when you've spent most of your life or grew up in a temperate or colder climate? Or maybe you're already in the tropics & can relate to this. When you're there & everything's perfect, you really don't feel like doing a darn thing! So if there was a fruit tree close & handy with some pretty ordinary fruit on it, you'd just be happy with that, over going for a five minute stroll to the other side of the garden & getting the really good stuff! I figure they just did what Huckleberry Finn felt like in Mark Twain's classic & just did whichever came handiest at the time.
The church also has a take on all the "what if's". If they just ate from the tree of knowledge, then they'd live forever, wouldn't bother with having children or doing anything we'd regard as "exciting" at all... end result": we'd be buggered! If they ate from the tree of life after the tree of knowledge, then they'd live forever in their misery & as a result, we'd be even more buggered today. Same thing, more or less, if it were the other way around. And if they did nothing at all, they'd still have it eating away at their collective conciousnesses & today we'd just be in agony.
@redhotpogo (4401)
• United States
1 Jun 12
True. And if they didn't eat it someone else would have. I'm guessing the snake ate some and that how he got so smart.
@veganbliss (3895)
• Adelaide, Australia
2 Jun 12
Ah! That's another good point. So many possibilities & those two covered it in such a short space of time! I wonder what each of us would have done? I reckon if it were me, I would have cut down both trees with tools I didn't have & build on some prime real estate there! Imagine how much the land alone would have been worth today!
@redhotpogo (4401)
• United States
2 Jun 12
lol. I don't know if destroying it would be a good idea either, but it would definitely need to be kept away from everyone.