Is it impossible to change a person's perspective on things?
@PhillyDreamer (3039)
United States
June 2, 2012 4:29am CST
I have a really good friend, who has always discriminated against fat people. I use to have the biggest crush on her, but she rejected me time and time again, because I was always overweight. She would always say to me, that she would love to date me, if I dropped a few pounds, but because I thought this was so shallow I never tried. My friend has gained a lot of weight, almost a hundred pounds, and her self esteem has sunken so low, that she has stopped exercising all together. I was trying to encourage her to keep trying to lose the weight, because she is so unhappy, but part of me was saying to myself, "Why can't you just be happy the way you are?". I have always adored this woman despite the fact that she is super shallow, and I really wish i could get her to understand that she is beautiful no matter what she looks like. Is it impossible to change the way people look at things? Am i wasting my energy, hoping that one day she will see things the way I do? Why do people discriminate against over weight people so much?
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8 responses
@allknowing (137552)
• India
2 Jun 12
It has all got to do with society norms. Nonconformists have no qualms about accepting whatever they fancy disregarding what society approves or disapproves of. Most as you know follow society norms and to change their thinking is quite a task. Finally it is what she thinks that matters and not how you feel about her. She is fortunate really that she has someone who accepts her the way she is. You will have to have some patience and slowly get her to accept her 'fate'!
@allknowing (137552)
• India
2 Jun 12
That's the way to go. Society interferes in so many ways making life difficult. Liberating oneself from these norms is the best way to go about doing what makes us happy provided what we do, does not hurt others.
@PhillyDreamer (3039)
• United States
2 Jun 12
It has gotten to the point where I feel society needs to change. Too many things are wrong with the world today, for people to just go on accepting that the way we do things in society is okay.
@PhillyDreamer (3039)
• United States
2 Jun 12
I use to exercise and try to keep fit, but I realized that my body was never going to conform to society, so i just decided to accept myself as I was, and focus on doing things that made me happy. Once you get to a certain age, no matter how much exercise you do, you will never look the way you did when you were young.
@SIMPLYD (90721)
• Philippines
2 Jun 12
Now that she too has grown fat, perhaps her perception of fat people will change. She too will understand now how it is to be one.
And now is the time for you to show to her, that no matter how she appears, you still like her.
@PhillyDreamer (3039)
• United States
2 Jun 12
I do my best, but part of me thinks it's hopeless. The messed up part of it is, she is married to someone who insults her constantly about her weight.
@SIMPLYD (90721)
• Philippines
2 Jun 12
Oh that's sad for you Philly , because she's already married.
Maybe the husband is doing that so she could be motivated to trim down her weight.
@PhillyDreamer (3039)
• United States
3 Jun 12
No he pretty much does it to destroy her spirit. My friend has always been very spirited. She sets goals and she achieves them, she even spent some time at NASA doing an internship. Her husband has always envied her accomplishments and every chance he gets he likes to hit her while she's down.
@celticeagle (168126)
• Boise, Idaho
3 Jun 12
Maybe you both need to change your way of thinking. People discriminate usually because of their up bringing, people they hang around with, and the media. I wouldn't try to change her. I would try to be her friend and be happy with that. You said she is shallow and it is very hard to change a shallow person.
@PhillyDreamer (3039)
• United States
3 Jun 12
I'm not trying to change her thinking. I just wish she would do it on her own. There's a million things she could gain from the experience, but she can't see past her own vanity.
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@celticeagle (168126)
• Boise, Idaho
3 Jun 12
Then I would move on. Find someone that will and can love you. I doubt you will ever change her way of thinking.
@Mashnn (4501)
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2 Jun 12
We should always be careful on what we do and we should not perceive other people differently since they look different from ous or their imperfections. The reality is you can also find yourself faced with the same problem. I just hope that your friend will realize that now that she if facing the same problem. It is good that you are there for her despite the way she treated you.
@PhillyDreamer (3039)
• United States
2 Jun 12
I wouldn't say I'd do it for everyone, its just me an d her came to an understanding a long time ago.
@PhillyDreamer (3039)
• United States
2 Jun 12
Despite her shallowness, she has proven to be a great friend. I wouldn't trade her in for the world.
@Suebee (2013)
• Canada
3 Jun 12
My guess is that your friend does not like herself. You said that she discriminated against fat people. If she doesn't like fat people and she has gained 100 lbs, then she has become the very thing that she does not like. She needs to learn to love herself.
You know how hard it is to change your own perspective, so think of how hard it is to change someone else's! I wouldn't say that you are wasting your time exactly, but she isn't going to change her way of thinking until she is ready to. It's like getting someone to quit smoking. It just ain't gonna happen unless they want it to happen.
As for discriminating against overweight people, well, it's just something that some people do. Personally, I don't...my own husband is overweight (I am not) and even his doctor has told him that he has to lose weight. I know it's not going to happen until he decides he wants to lose weight so I don't say anything at all to him about it. However I do wish he would exercise more just for health reasons, as we all know being overweight contributes to a multitude of health problems. Some people see overweight people as being lazy or lacking in self respect hence the discrimination. We all know that that is not necessarily the case but those are labels that society in general has attached to "fat" people.
@PhillyDreamer (3039)
• United States
3 Jun 12
Suebee I know she will change if she wants to, its just sad to see someone beat themselves up like that. While there are health problems associated with being overweight, there are health problems in every other lifestyle as well. People who are obsessed with losing weight go so far as to pump chemicals in their system, starve themselves, and do other things to their body which i think go against God and nature. I will not punish myself or abuse myself so i can look a certain way. I have found a way to maintain the weight that i am, by my normal routine and it works for me. Sometimes I'll push myself to be a bit more active so I can enjoy my time with my kids, but other than that i don't feel the need to spend my life in a gym.
@Suebee (2013)
• Canada
3 Jun 12
Oh PhillyDreamer, I'm not suggesting that all overweight people should push themselves to lose weight or spend their lives in a gym, especially if they're comfortable with their weight. And sure, there are health risks associated with just about everything these days.
I think with your friend the key is that she never liked overweight people, therefore she doesn't like herself now that she has become one. True one should not beat themselves up over a thing like their weight but in her case she probably realizes that she felt better about herself when she was smaller. People in general need to learn to accept and love themselves the way they are. A lot of us humans have difficulty doing that. Unfortunately society and the media have been dictating what they think people should look like and people think that they have to try to attain a certain look to be considered attractive.
@mercvict (127)
• India
3 Jun 12
If you try, you can change her but try to tell in a very loving and understandable way. Some people are stubborn and think they are always right. Friend, I suggest you to reduce weight as overweight can cause lot of health problems at a later stage and you have to spend a lot of money in the hospital.
@chiyosan (30183)
• Philippines
2 Jun 12
It is possible, but with lots of effort. It took years before we could even get my mom not to eat a full course meal. We always worry about her because she too is overweight... It took her own will and when she feels that sshe is too heavy to walk longer hours in the mall, she realized she has to do something about it, and that is when we told her what she can do to lose some weight gradually... now she even volunteered to use the thread mill and walk a few minutes each day. I think people when it comes to things - we always have our reasons, and our ideas are fixed on one thing - one idea- and our mind is shut on other things and options... sometimes we would even formulate our own reasons and stick to it as if our life depends on it and we become hard headed... right?
I think maybe what you can do is to offer her company, like you might also want to do the change about yourself too, when people see that others have embraced new things and accept to change, they see an inspiration... and with this you would not even need to like force her to diet, etc... you get the benefit to be with her at the same time as well... =)
@PhillyDreamer (3039)
• United States
2 Jun 12
I've tried exercising with her before. I really can't keep up. She jogged circles around me. I won't punish myself any more. LOl
@JHkerriokey (105)
• United States
2 Jun 12
To change how someone thinks prove the execption! She's fat now. Ok but what was it she hated fat people for to begin with?
I am of a hefty nature and I would swear people think I am lazy. Until they watch me work.
Of course my brother is bigger than I and far lazier. Not the point, the point is what does she hate fat people for? Is she those things? Prove to her she's not!
I personally don't know what she could have against fat people other than consumption issues and lazy.
In this situation the man she is married to seems to be the complete problem. Being a victim of verbal abuse once the attacker is removed things can and will get better.
@PhillyDreamer (3039)
• United States
2 Jun 12
I warned her not to marry the guy. He was a jerk from the beginning. I think her problem stems from some form of low self esteem. I can't say this entirely true, because my friend is one of those ultra ambitious people who is always looking to make her life better, but it's the only thing i can think of. I think inside she feels ugly and she is constantly pushing herself to fit some image she has in her mind. It's really endearing in a way, because no matter what I say she is her own person, but it pains me to see her beat herself up so much.