Bi Polar Madness
@PhillyDreamer (3039)
United States
June 11, 2012 5:50am CST
For those of you who may not know me, I suffer from a mild form of bi-polar disorder. I'm on the border line between needing medication and not. The reason I mention this is, because most days are a struggle for me. The form of Bi-polar disorder I suffer from keeps me in a constant state of depression with the occasional manic moment in between. I have made serious changes in my life such as quitting my job to stay at home with my twins, putting myself on a strict sleep schedule, and trying to avoid any stressful situation. I have seem dramatic improvement with my mental health, but I can't help feeling that I'm running away from the world, just to be sane. I think about returning to work, but the thought of dealing with an aggravating boss is too unpleasant. I think about getting my finances in order, but bills feel like a stress I can't handle. The point of this discussion is whether or not I should put myself back on meds. I want my life back the way it was before I was consumed with depression, but I also feel like I'm just throwing myself back into the misery that messed my head up so bad in the first place.
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@psychoartist (756)
• United States
11 Jun 12
hi phillydreamer. my mother is bi-polar as well, and i suffer from depression...i have not had any bi-polar, there have been times i have wished i could be manic, but mostly i am just way down low, or steady! we both have to take medication to function, and it has been hard to realize that it is a condition we will never get over, we just have to carry it for the rest of our lives and carry on! it helps if you compare it to another illness, such as diabetes, where the sufferers have to take medicine and manage their condition in order to survive...it is a shame that there is still such stigma around mental/emotional illnesses because i think it makes people who have the illnesses embarrassed and want to hide, but what i have learned in my studies is that there is such a mind-body connection that mental illness can contribute to physical illness and vice-versa...such as you mentioned that you have to get enough sleep..and even proper nutrition helps...if you decide to go back on the medication you may not regret that decision...with working, and a young family, you need all the energy and clarity you can get, if you can find a medication that works for you it will be beneficial...peace and blessings to you and your family phillydreamer...and take care of yourself, you are worth it.
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@PhillyDreamer (3039)
• United States
11 Jun 12
Nutrition is probably the one area I fail at miserable. I would like to eat healthier, but to be honest I can't see denying myself the pleasure of good food to be healthier. I love to eat tasty things, and they have yet to invent good food that is also healthy. I should probably exercise more since I refuse to eat, but again the depression I feel most of the time makes it hard to exercise. I'll keep putting up a fight, and maybe I can discipline myself to improve in this area of my life as well.
@PhillyDreamer (3039)
• United States
12 Jun 12
I don't understand why most pharmaceuticals are cheaper outside of this country, but we are forced to pay such high prices.
@psychoartist (756)
• United States
12 Jun 12
i relate, i have a hard time maintaining proper nutrition and exercise as well...but i know that during the times in my life i have been doing well in that area, it has helped a lot...(now is not one of those times, unfortunately!) i understand about the cost of the medicine too...it is just outrageous and makes me feel worse thinking about it...
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@wolveren (1586)
• Cebu, Philippines
11 Jun 12
I know how you must feel. I have no experience with bipolars, but depression I have been through that a lot. But life is supposed to be all about moving forward and not backwards. You've been there you've done that. It's horrible, and we all know what a little guy's chances are against the world. You're not alone. But we've got to move forward and don't make the same mistakes we all made. If working for a boss isn't your thing, you have to find a way without it. Been there done that too, it took me a whole decade to get it right, and I'm still not out of the woods, but I don't stop. I just can't. Try moving forward and going out more. Perhaps you will find what you're looking for. I did too. I broke from my own hard headed shell, but I never went back to working for a boss again. At least I'm free to do what I love most. I'm still not out of debt yet, but with persistence, guts, humor yourself, do something crazy for the heck of it. The whole world is out there to explore. This may not work for everyone but you have to find your own bliss along the way, philly.
@wolveren (1586)
• Cebu, Philippines
11 Jun 12
Then use the very people you care for as inspiration. Get your inner strength from the people you love. The trials along the way will make it easier. Just remember the goal isn't always ultimate. The real reward is the journey itself. And that is what real success is all about.
@PhillyDreamer (3039)
• United States
11 Jun 12
That sounds so hollow right now, when the goal feels more important than the journey. Maybe as I progress further that will change.
@PhillyDreamer (3039)
• United States
11 Jun 12
That's a cold hard fact. I don't think I can be happy with other people in control of my destiny. I don't want a boss. It's just scary to know that if I don't have what it takes, so many people go down in the ship with me.
@peavey (16936)
• United States
11 Jun 12
That's a difficult decision to make and I can understand you not wanting to be on medication all the time.
I'm not an expert by any means, but it seems that stressing over things undone or that seem hard to do makes this kind of disorder harder to deal with. Do you have days when you feel more able to tackle bills and things? If so, maybe you could watch carefully and take advantage of those days or hours to do as much constructively as possible. Having something under control should give you more peace.
@peavey (16936)
• United States
11 Jun 12
I understand. I have tendencies of that type, too, but not as pronounced. I have days when I just can't deal with things. I'm lucky in that I usually don't have to do things on those days. I think that if you use your good days to deal with whatever you need to deal with, then you don't need to feel bad on the days you can't. Accepting our limitations relieves a lot of pressure on all of us.
@PhillyDreamer (3039)
• United States
11 Jun 12
I'll have to put your theory to the test. My best times are round 6am, after a good nights sleep. At that time I feel like I can do anything. Sadly the stores dont open up that early around here. LOL.
@PhillyDreamer (3039)
• United States
11 Jun 12
I have days where I feel like I can take on challenges, but then I have days when I don't even want to walk down the stairs.
@laken02 (3065)
• United States
12 Jun 12
i am bi polar as well, and i could not function with out the medication, i see a dr once a month and she give me meds to do me until then, i in the past tryed to go woth out the medication and it never was good for me i always ended up in a manic state and in the hospital, and back on the meds,, i would not stop taking my meds now for anything.. i have a part time job, and its works best for me, i could not handle a full time job.. do you have family that can watch the kids ? maybe you could do a part time job as well... ??? it would get you out of the house and give you some money as well.. i feel so much better getting out and going to work
even part time.. and my hubby is happy as well.. im helping with the bills, and we get along better now... having bi polar is not fun i know, i will pray for you as well.. take care.. lots of luck with what ever you choose..to do...
@PhillyDreamer (3039)
• United States
12 Jun 12
I don't really have reliable child cae, but I was thinking about a part time job. Before I do that I'm going to give my writing a chance to work for me.
@courtknee525 (3742)
• United States
11 Jun 12
I'm not sure if you see a psychiatrist, therapist, etc. but maybe you should and talk about that with him or her. You definitely don't want to feel like you're running away from the world and your problems and maybe with the right kind of help, you'd enjoy going back out and having a job. If you do see some sort of doctor, try and realize that the most effective way of re-entering the workforce and the world will require most likely a cognitive-behavioral therapy and some sort of medication to help with symptoms of depression, anxiety, etc. Take things slowly and one step at a time so you don't feel like you're overwhelming yourself with everything at once. If you want to get your finances straightened, try focusing on one bill at a time and once you have successfully taken care of it, reward yourself with a break or something you like to do and then tackle the next one.
I'm sure it won't be easy, but I'm sure you'd want to be strong and overcome things and instead of running from the world, you'd be able to stand tall and face whatever comes your way.
@PhillyDreamer (3039)
• United States
11 Jun 12
It's more than paying bills. It's my whole outlook on society. I don't like how this world runs. I hate that people work their entire lives for nothing, while some rich guy reaps all the benefits. I don't like how our politicians make laws they can't even follow themselves. Part of my depression stems from disatisfaction with he entire world.
@courtknee525 (3742)
• United States
11 Jun 12
If it's dissatisfaction, then I'd strongly suggest seeing a cognitive-behavioral psychologist about it because it's not going to be something you can do on your own. With cognitive-behavioral psychology, the psychologist works on your thoughts (in your case your dissatisfaction with the world) and through behavioral techniques and therapies, ditch your negative thoughts and replace them with a more positive outlook. I'm only a student now, but from what I've learned so far this seems like a good option for you because it'll be hard to do this on your own if you really want to get back into the world. Yes society does suck sometimes, but there's not a whole lot we can do but accept what we're given and make the best of it and live life to the fullest. It may seem like our country is bad, but there are far worse countries to live in that have it even worse than we think we do.
@PhillyDreamer (3039)
• United States
11 Jun 12
I did see a counselor for a while, and what we did was a lot of talking about how i needed to accept certain things. After a while of talking with him and being on my meds. I tried to function for a while, but the med started costing too much money so I stopped using them, and after a while everything started getting on my nerves again. The best I've ever felt is right now, but that's because I have eliminated almost ever stressful thing in my life. I know I can't survive like this, so I'm trying to earn income online. Hopefully I'll get better at this, so I can start taking charge of my life again, and settle all the things I have looming over my head.
@Lorden (348)
• South Africa
12 Jun 12
I haven't read the entirety of the responses, but from what you originally wrote anyway you didn't mention any diet changes.
If I eat a certain way (sugary foods and drinks), I also fall into deep, deep depression within minutes.
The aim though is not to NOT eat bad, but to eat very, very good. It will change your mood drastically.
Also, stay away from the media and watch only what you know is feel-good. Definitely don't read any politics columns.
Don't stay on the internet for more than an hour or three a day. I still have no clue how this works, but it definitely promotes depression.
DO take walks outside and breathe in fresh air.
Not that I'm the expert other than what works for me, but from personal experience depression is caused by politics, bad diet, not sleeping at least 9 hours a night, and sitting still in front of a computer.
I wouldn't recommend you grab at chemicals and pills before any of the aforementioned is fixed, unless you need them for survival. Which is rarely the case.
And if you want to work, find a job that you'll find more of a game you enjoy to do, instead of a stressfull burden.
@PhillyDreamer (3039)
• United States
12 Jun 12
These are good tips, and a lot of them would help me greatly. The computer is hard, because I'm writing articles to make money right now, everything else is doable. I just need to incorporate it into my routine.
@cher913 (25782)
• Canada
11 Jun 12
i have fibro and i am so tired all the time. i wake up tired and go to bed tired and drag myself through my day. it sucks having stuff wrong with you. oh how i envy people that wake up after have a great night's rest, feel energetic and peppy and ready for their day.
hang in there philly!
@PhillyDreamer (3039)
• United States
12 Jun 12
I wish I was like the normal people too. I realize how screwed up my thought process is when I see people handle things all the time that seem so hard for me.
@maximax8 (31046)
• United Kingdom
11 Jun 12
It is a shame that most days are a struggle for you. You didn't want to feel in a constant state of depression and so you sensibly made some serious life changes. Well done trying to avoid any stressful situation. You need to feel calm and try to find moments to be happy. You are suffering from a mild form of bi-polar disorder. I think that you will feel better if you get your finances more in order. You could carry on without the medication or try it to see if it improves your feelings all that much. Good luck.
@SomeCowgirl (32191)
• United States
12 Jun 12
To be quite honest I don't believe in medicine for that. I feel like if you were to get back on the medication it would take your body a bit to get used to it again and the side effects / mood swings could be worse before you get used to it. Also what worked for you before may not work for you again. You may need more, or less, and well you know the process.
Do you take any kind of medication at all? I say look into B-Complex Vitamins. These Vitamins are supposed to be good for helping with moods and the such and may help you a little bit.
I just don't believe in medicine, and especially not to stabilize moods.
@hotsummer (13837)
• Philippines
11 Jun 12
I am not familiar with bi polar although I have been hearing about it for quite sometime. I don't know if people with bi polar do get depressed because it's the effect of being a bi polar and if they experience mood swings for no reason. I'm depressed most of the time when I was growing up and even until now. . That's because I had problem having friends . I always had been shy and not confident and afraid to get rejected so that's why I had problem to have friends but when I do have friends it feels like heaven. Sadly friends do come and go and so my depression. I hope that you would b able somehow make your life a bit easier and less stressful.
@PhillyDreamer (3039)
• United States
12 Jun 12
These mental disorders are hard to diagnose, because people have emotions all the time. Clinical depression is when you are always feeling down or negative even during times you should feel happy. Bi Polar is bouts of depression mixed in with extreme bouts of happiness or energy. I'll give you an example, I had a boss that used to yell at me all the time and after a while this yelling would make me so angry I could lift up a washer machine and throw it on the back of a truck. Normally I would need help with a job like that but my extreme anger triggered my strength. Usually this is defined as a manic moment, but there are other forms of it too, like when someone goes shopping and starts buying everything in site without regards to a budget.
@lafredricktaylor (256)
• United States
11 Jun 12
I understand Philly..i havent been diagnosed with bipolar but i sure feel like i have. Most say i have anger management problems. But i need to try some of those techniques because i have depression issues also. so i hope all is well with you.
@PhillyDreamer (3039)
• United States
11 Jun 12
Anger was my biggest problem. I used to have violent outburst of anger, and one day I hurt someone to the point I could have went to jail if they had reported it. I was lucky they didn't, but from that day forward I swore I would not raise my hands in anger again. I still have extreme anger issues, but I try to walk away from situations, before they turn me violent.