How do women feel about the secondary role they play in religion?
@PhillyDreamer (3039)
United States
July 11, 2012 9:42am CST
I am interested in learning how women feel about their role in their religion. I would like to hear the view points of women from different religious backgrounds and different faiths. I do not want to turn this into a battle of the sexes or religions. I really just want a better understanding of the role women play in the different religions of the world, and whether or not they feel they play an equal role in their religion.
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@samar54 (2454)
• Egypt
11 Jul 12
I think that Islam gave women rights had not given her any other religion , she has full rights ..ordered to respect her , treats her well and gave her the right to inheritance (it takes half of what the man) is the husband and children that treats her gently.
@PhillyDreamer (3039)
• United States
11 Jul 12
I don't think inheritance is a right. It is in fact something that is given, but I think the bigger point here is that women for centuries were not allow to own anything. A woman who's husband owned land would not be allowed to inherit that land, so it would go to the man who was supposed to be in charge of her. I think in ownership the world has come a long way, but the religious view on the right to inheritance is very intersting.
@PhillyDreamer (3039)
• United States
11 Jul 12
Samar, I have seen some Muslims in the U.S. take the position that the woman has to submit to her husband. Is this a common practice of Islam?
@Ixodoi (445)
• Israel
11 Jul 12
I;m a woman & a believer. To say I like that fact that woman are only secondary - no I don't.
However, there is a saying in my belief that it's best translation is "The bible was written in human language" - meaning - not everything that was written in there is exactly as G-d wanted (like animals killing), but G-d knows what human can and can't pace. So some thing was written as human were used to in that time rather than how it would have being better.
I believe this is also the reason women were secondary in the bible.
In the future time when G-d will be revealed again to us, things will change, it this area as well.
@PhillyDreamer (3039)
• United States
11 Jul 12
What faith do you follow? Tell me more how you feel women come secondary?
@Ixodoi (445)
• Israel
11 Jul 12
I'm a Jew. Women have less obligations and duties in our religions than men (some actually say it shows that G-d has higher respect to women. so they need less rules in order to be complete).
Also if you read the bible you read mostly about men, there are very few women characters in the bible (although almost of the women are very strong).
@PhillyDreamer (3039)
• United States
11 Jul 12
So would you prefer to have more rules to follow in your religion?
@peavey (16936)
• United States
11 Jul 12
As a Christian (Protestant) I've never had personally to deal with it. Some women feel "called" to become pastors or teachers, but I'm not sure how I feel about that. The Bible seems to teach that women are not to take the public rule over men in any way and I'm comfortable with that.
Men and women think differently and I don't care how much "women's lib" is thrown at it, we're two different kinds of humans. Women have their own powers that men don't have and vice versa.
@PhillyDreamer (3039)
• United States
11 Jul 12
Have your beliefs kept you from doing certain things you feel like you would be qualified to do?
@urbandekay (18278)
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11 Jul 12
I love your discussions, not just because they are interesting but also in part because you elucidate well, this time however, I need a little clarification. You seem to be assuming that women's role is not equal and in some denominations of most religions I might be inclined to agree; Islam, Orthodox Judaism and the Roman Church perhaps being prime examples but even here we run into a difficulty. A role might be lesser in worldly terms; status, etc. but greater in spiritual terms, how then should equivalence therein be measured?
all the best urban
@urbandekay (18278)
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11 Jul 12
" How would you say the role would be greater in spiritual terms?"
I am really saying that spiritual and worldly values are incommensurable; that a priest, lama, iman, pope etc. are worldly titles and of no spiritual significance. The woman that sits at the back of the Church each Sunday and talks to no one may play a more important role than the pope, the dali lama, ayatollah, etc. though in worldly terms her role is small.
So when you say the role of women in religion is secondary, I presume you mean in worldly terms and to the true believer this is totally unimportant and may even be a blessing.
all the best urban
@PhillyDreamer (3039)
• United States
11 Jul 12
Okay I understand. The worldy part is important to some people though. How is a woman who is a leader in her industry able to justify following a religion where she is not allowed to play and important role?
@PhillyDreamer (3039)
• United States
11 Jul 12
I'm looking for more information about other religions, the ones I do know of women seem to play a small part in. I want to know what they think of their roles, and if they do in fact feel they play a secondary role. How would you say the role would be greater in spiritual terms?
@matersfish (6306)
• United States
11 Jul 12
Yeah. Odd that.
My favorite part is how religious people and some sects want to be a little progressive, going against the "word," and ultimately decreeing that, okay, maybe we can stray a little from the path. We can bend divinity until it makes sense for us. And we can still say that we're the only righteous ones in existence and everyone else is wrong.
Yeah. Nothing I'm going to rant about.
Very strange, this stuff, and the folks explaining it away just tangle it up and convince none but themselves -- which is ironic considering. But that's another topic.
@PhillyDreamer (3039)
• United States
11 Jul 12
I'm very interested in people's logic behind it all. In what way do you think people go against the word?
@PhillyDreamer (3039)
• United States
16 Jul 12
Is there a certain scripture you a referring to about a woman having to marry her rapist. I know you learn these things through your own lessons and experience, but perhaps you can point me to an article or book where I can learn more about these things.
@Zhizho (1350)
• Indonesia
11 Jul 12
First, I tell you that I am not good enough in english, so hope I did not make mistake to interpret or analyze your topic. In my faith, Man and woman have equal position. Position i mean here, Man and woman have right and obligation in their respective roles. All human same in God eyes, one thing that make different is their piety of God. Because all human will asked about their responsibility. But Man should be a good leader for his family. and best man who able to treat his wife well. So does her wife, best wife who able take care her houshold and respect to her husband. hope my thought will not make missunderstand about this discussion. have enjoy mylot :)
@Zhizho (1350)
• Indonesia
12 Jul 12
I am a moslem. I think, it does not matter. There is no ban in my religion for woman work and be leader As long as woman able to setting her time to do her obligation. Surely, we have priority in life. She will not considered to be living in sin as long as she did goodness.
@PhillyDreamer (3039)
• United States
11 Jul 12
What religion do you follow? If a woman desired to go out into the work force and become a leader in her industry, would she be considered to be living in sin?
@PhillyDreamer (3039)
• United States
16 Jul 12
This sounds reasonable. What if her husband decided that she should not be allowed to do anything, not even work? What happens to a woman like this if the husband was to pass away, and she was forced to be on her own?
@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
12 Jul 12
Hi! Have you had a Cheeseteak recently? I did! I hope you did too!
Ok back on subject. In my faith I was taught it this way. Women are Already closer to G-d so that is why men Need to go to temple more than women. In an Orthodox Temple , Women are on the second floor while men sit on the lower level. But reform Jews have Female Rabbis. To each his own!
@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
16 Jul 12
And it is Orthodox Judaism, not some fly by night sect that started in the 60's!
@PhillyDreamer (3039)
• United States
16 Jul 12
Wow, I find that so interesting. Women being in need of less order than the men. Sounds like a feminist movement, but this is a religion.
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@salonga (27775)
• Philippines
12 Jul 12
Well I just as I willingly and happily obey God's commandment that I should submit to their husband I am also happy and willing to take secondary role if you call that so. I am willingly obedient to the rule of our church that women are not allowed to preach in the pulpit. It is not about religion but it is a matter of obedience to God. I don't mind if that means playing a secondary role. I don't really aspire to be above anyone in the church. God is always the first and the primary of all. My primary interest is to serve Him the best way I could. We are not allowed to preach in the pulpit but we are allowed to do the wonderful works for God such as teaching the ladies, the young people and the children. We also can sing for the Lord, witness to the lost, beautify the church, and many more. I am not interested in usurping the lead role of the men for anyway although they take the lead role we the women get so much respect and love.
My policy is to glorify God in all the things I do. I avoid taking the glory for myself because I know all that I am and I all that I have are only by His grace so even if I do get the meanest role ever, it does not matter to me because I am serving a great God. Even if I am relegated to the background and nobody notices me at all it does not really matter because what matters most to me is the fact that God loves me and I am special to Him.
@PhillyDreamer (3039)
• United States
16 Jul 12
I can see things better, when you put it in that light. What about when religion puts you in a role of sub-serviance to a tyrant? Let's say a woman had an abusive husband who beat on her and really did not give her the respect. What's the religious view on a situation like this?