Time to Put an End to This 'Fair Share' Cr@p

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/ This website lists ALL the orginizations, individuals, and ideologies of the LEFTIST take over of America. Obama IS a dictator, and he intends to stay OUR dictator. If he's reelected, say good bye to USofA's Constitutional Republic.

Sue Just what makes you say that these rants are misinformed.

A constitutional Republic, however, that still allows you to go on these ill-informed rants!

Keep at it, then! PM me your facebook ID, if you don't mind?

I am on facebook and twitter as well as a discussion group besides myLot and a web browser for an online newspaper. It is sometimes more than I can keep up with. But I take that as encouragment and thank you very much for it.

Sorry I missed your response. Wasn't ignoring you, I agree very strongly with your response!

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/guideDesc.asp?catid=115&type=issue It is classic Marxist rhetoric. Read up on it at this website. Very well researched and NOT prone to sensationalism.

I don't know. Been listening to it for three years now and still cannot wrap my head around it. I always told my kids, and now tell my grandkids, LIFE IS NOT FAIR. And when they got to about five years old, they were told, we don't get to sit on our butts everyone has to work. I am told my sons are some of the hardest working men their bosses have seen. EVEN though one is unemployed, he is out everyday, mowing, helping old folks, working on people's homes, cars, yards etc. AS WELL as doing his work searches. There is no free ride, and life is not fair. To many people feel otherwise.

I want to know-just when it became a bad thing to be successful? And I'd like a link to that info please. Not opinion mind you, I want it backed up with some solid proof. And what are capital gains? Return on investment right? People take THEIR money and invest it in someone's venture and for doing so, get a return. I'd like to know why THAT is bad as well.

Here, this isn't quite as bad as the top 10% having 90% but it's not much better, on the up side it's pretty comprehensive study. Scrolling down and looking at some graphs you can easily see that 37% of taxes is a much smaller number than they're percentage of wealth. Everyone should at least skim this, it really puts things into perspective. http://www2.ucsc.edu/whorulesamerica/power/wealth.html

thanks. yes, I see the point. But I still don't agree with it. There is just NO justification for advocating TAKING other people's stuff. Or for the class 'envy' being propagated to make it easier. Private Property is one of the BASIC HUMAN RIGHTS in my opinion. And NO GOVERNMENT should have the right to take from one person to give to another. WE decide, not the 'ruling elite' that our government has become. We've fought one time against a government that felt they had the right to tax us against OUR WILL.

What I did that was new was to prove: that the existence of classes is only bound up with particular, historic phases in the development of production; that the class struggle necessarily leads to the dictatorship of the proletariat; that this dictatorship itself only constitutes the transition to the abolition of all classes and to a classless society. Karl Marx The political expression of altruism is collectivism or statism, which holds that man’s life and work belong to the state—to society, to the group, the gang, the race, the nation—and that the state may dispose of him in any way it pleases for the sake of whatever it deems to be its own tribal, collective good. A statist system—whether of a communist, fascist, Nazi, socialist or “welfare” type—is based on the . . . government’s unlimited power, which means: on the rule of brute force. The differences among statist systems are only a matter of time and degree; the principle is the same. Under statism, the government is not a policeman, but a legalized criminal that holds the power to use physical force in any manner and for any purpose it pleases against legally disarmed, defenseless victims. Nothing can ever justify so monstrously evil a theory. Nothing can justify the horror, the brutality, the plunder, the destruction, the starvation, the slave-labor camps, the torture chambers, the wholesale slaughter of statist dictatorships. Ayn Rand There you have the two differing mind sets. Satism: the theory or practice of concentrating economic and political power in the state, resulting in a weak position for the individual or community with respect to the government. individual liberty: the liberty of an individual to exercise freely those rights generally accepted as being outside of governmental control. The problem with statism is it is a system that supposes the state will be benevolent. James Madison said: All men having power ought to be mistrusted. And: Liberty may be endangered by the abuse of liberty, but also by the abuse of power. And: If men were angels, no government would be necessary. What Marxist don't take into consideration is man's nature. Nietzsche's doctrine of 'the will to power' is a psychological presupposition that humans are always attempting to inflict their wills upon others. Every action toward another individual stems from a deep-down desire to bring that person under one's power in one way or another. The Bible says it this way: the heart of man is desperately wicked, who can know it. It is with the INDIVIDUAL that God deals with in changeing hearts, or this 'will to power' that Nietzshe speaks of. You cannot 'legislate' morality. So why did God give the ten commandments then? If the nature of man is wicked, and you cannot make a man be good against his will, why bother with laws? Like Madison says, if men were angels (sinless) there would be no need of government. Government is instituted to enforce laws, laws that set the standard for behavior. Government is an agent of God to enforce laws on rebellious mankind. Government does NOT change hearts. It enforces laws against bad behavior. And we all know that government does not always operate in a fair way. How can it, it is composed of men with natures 'that will to power'. The answer is to give the governing of man to each man himself. That is the WE THE PEOPLE, but as our founders noted, if men are not religious and moral, they would not be able to govern themselves. That is why we are seeing what we are seeing. Nature abhors a vacuum. So, if individuals will not govern themselves, the state will govern them. Accountability demands law enforcement. If it does not come from the individual himself, it must come from the state, the collective. There is no UTOPIA possible while on this earth. The 'state' will gather to itself the POWER to rule men. And the less men rule themselves, the more power they give to the state to do so. Marxism never works along side individual liberty because men are wicked and strive for power. Concentrate that power in a few, and there is no individual liberty. What I said all that for is this; we are seeing in the minds and hearts of some Americans is the desire to make things fair. To relieve suffering of people they know, and of society in general. THAT is not a bad thing in and of itself. What is BAD is the STATE taking advantage of this to gather power to itself at the expense of individual liberty.

I was going to tell you welcome to myLot. I wrote that myself btw. You won't be very welcome on mylot with that kind of approach to people, if you start accusing people of plagerism before you even know them.

All of that sounds like it was lifted directly from Ayn Rand. You should be using quotation marks if you are using her thouughts or ideas.