What you have feeling about Islam?
By Devilova
@Devilova (5392)
Indonesia
September 6, 2012 12:01am CST
After watch so much news, whether in newspapers and or Television.
What is your opinion about Islam?
The honost from the deepest of your heart.
As a Muslim, I want to know what others opinion about my Religion.
Cause maybe what you have saw and heared are totally different or wrong from the facts.
Give me your opinion.
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26 responses
@ajk111 (2495)
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7 Sep 12
The hysteria from the last decade has been immense. Forget Islam, muslim is the current hate figure!
but who can blame people? Muslim this, muslim that, anything that goes wrong and you can bet there is a muslim behind it!
personally, i work with 2 muslims and they are funny, great people. so are two other white christians but i work with an idiot of a christian who is negative and vengeful so should i hate him? of course not!
You can not judge an entire creed on a small minority....but the press sure make it hard!
@Graptopetalum (1807)
• Canada
12 Sep 12
ajk111, you should judge a religion by its scriptures not those who claim to follow it. Look at the Koran, particularly 5:33, to see how peaceful Islam really is.
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@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
7 Sep 12
I think Islam is another path to G-d/Allah. It isn't mine but it is just as good as my religion. All I really know is that for 30 days you fast for Ramadan. And like my Passover ,It falls on different dates because of the calendar is set by the moon?Something else we have in common is the practice of having a holy man bless the meat we buy and eat. That is all I know...for now.
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@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
7 Sep 12
This means a Jew who keeps Kosher could invite a Muslim home for a meal! I love that idea. We have more in common!
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@urbandekay (18278)
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6 Sep 12
The first thing to say is that I know many Muslims, my neighbours are from Iran and the vast majority of Muslims are peace-loving people.
However, the question is not about Muslims but about Islam and my impression of that has changed, during my interaction here.
I had initially, perhaps rather naively, assumed that Islam and Christianity were compatible, indeed a Muslim scholar once commented that Islam correctly interpreted would be very similar to Christianity.
However, Islam today is not interpreted in this manner by some. In some quarters Islam has become radicalised, which is a mistake and a misinterpretation. But there are fanatics and extremists anywhere. What is perhaps more worrying is that reasonable Muslims are insufficiently vocal in condemning such radical Muslims
all the best urban
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@jazel_juan (15746)
• Philippines
7 Sep 12
there are radicals everywhere, not just in the Islam..even in our religion the Catholics. The things is, they should somehow be pacified as it causes rifts between different religion and causes some to think negatively.
@marguicha (223008)
• Chile
6 Sep 12
You can see here, reading what some mylotters say, that there are radicaks in all religions and also in politics. I have read here about some people saying that if you are not a Christian you will go to hell. What do non radical Christian do about that? Let`s not throw stones to others, if we don`t clean first our own house and we teach the people nearest to us to be respectful and generous.
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@artemeis (4194)
• China
9 Sep 12
I believe that religions should never allow their differences escalate into something that will cause quarrels and wars. Otherwise, nothing one says will be convincing and acceptable.
Islam is a very strong and traditional religion. I find them uncompromising in their beliefs and practices but at the same time, they are not strict with those who misuse their religion to do bad deeds. This is one part I can never understand and come to terms with.
@artemeis (4194)
• China
9 Sep 12
Recall the Chinese oppression in 98?
What did your Muslims do to the Chinese in your country?
Which Islamic cleric came out to quell the murderous Muslims (radicals included)?
For the record, Chinese discrimination has been evident throughout the history of your country - INDONESIA!
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@artemeis (4194)
• China
9 Sep 12
P.S.
Since 9/11 how many years did Osama Bin Laden lived in the Muslim countries - last one being Pakistan?
Don't tell me the highly regarded Arab League does not know. Don't tell me the Pakistanis do not know. Did any of the Muslim authority lift a finger?
Evidently, if the Americans did not send in the troops Bin Laden will still be leading his terrorist organization from his fort.
@jazel_juan (15746)
• Philippines
6 Sep 12
I live in a community where Muslim and Christians co-exists quite well. I have friends who are Muslim too which is nice as i grew up knowing their religion as well as they know my religion too.
I respect them as much as i respect other people, in fact i admire the way they follow their religion. My best friend who is a guy is a Muslim and it was from him that i learned about your bible the Kur'an. I learned that it is a whole lot similar with our bible, Moses and Abraham are in it too. I also learned the purpose as to why your women wear the Hijab as well.
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@Devilova (5392)
• Indonesia
6 Sep 12
Yes, you are right Jazel.
Qur'an is not only a guide of life for Islam, but its also a source of any knowledge.
You will found so many explanation that unbelieveable.
And for hijab, yes its really important for a women.
As a men, I do love woman who wearing it.
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@TheMetallion (1834)
• United States
6 Sep 12
I'm pretty much neutral on Islam beyond the fact that I don't believe it is correct because I don't believe monotheism is correct.
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@vandana7 (100282)
• India
7 Sep 12
Well, Hinduism was also similar. I mean we respected all gods from different communities or tribes and integrated it all into single story so that nobody felt left out. I dont know how somewhere on the way, our religion lost its flexibility and it became rigid. So we now do not offer visas to other gods..lol. Truth? People dont know the difference between Philosophy, Culture, Religion, Custom, Tradition, what nots..lol They just want to fight and find ways to create enemies.
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@TheMetallion (1834)
• United States
7 Sep 12
My religion is called Wicca. We believe there are as many Gods and Goddesses as we can imagine, and more besides.
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@marguicha (223008)
• Chile
6 Sep 12
I don´t know enough about Islam as to have an opinion. But I have deep respect for all religions as long as the are not used to harm people. I do think though that when religions are used that way it is some people that do it and the reason behind it is mostly political or economical. I don´t think any religion is based in money or power in the sense that sometimes we hear it in the news.
@Devilova (5392)
• Indonesia
6 Sep 12
You are absolutely right Marguicha.
In my country, there is a wiseword.
A drop of poison will effect a gallon of water.
Try to imagine, two person take a fight. Its pure personal matter.
One of them was a muslim and other was a Christian.
It could create a chain reactions.
Religion, etnic, etc.
Its very sensitive case, so its has to be handle with more sensitive.
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@marguicha (223008)
• Chile
6 Sep 12
It is such a pity that people with power hurt the mayority of the population who just want to live in peace. I liked very much the saying about the drop of poison. It is wise and it`s so true.
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@vandana7 (100282)
• India
7 Sep 12
Devilova, I am a Hindu. I live in a city that has many many muslims. If you are asking about Islam per se, I dont know it as well as I know Christianity because I am educated in a convent. However, I have had very good experiences with moslem people in my life so I am judging the religion based on my experiences with them. I have to say I like muslim women better.
There is one thing though. There is a tendency amongst muslim men to take a detour towards religion in every place. So I could be talking about Casper, the friendly ghost, and they might suddenly reach Mecca. Get what I mean? Under normal circumstances it does not matter. But we never know who is not stressed out elsewhere, like I dont know whether you are as relaxed as I am now. So saying there is only one god and that is Allah can be by implication telling another person that your god is no god. It is nice to believe in Allah, it is rude to make statement that makes another person feel inferior or stupid. After all, each one of us is blessed with some intellect and culture. Nobody likes to be told you dont have brains so you are following some pagan religion. I dont say Hindus dont do it, or even Christians. But the percentage of such what shall I call PROVOKING/RIDICULING? remarks are more from Muslim MEN out here. I think that is what creates antagonism towards Islam for starters and prompts some unfair or unjust behavior on the part of others towards this religion.
Another thing is they do not have patience to listen out to what is being stated. If they feel that a Muslim is being hurt somewhere else in another part of the world, it is the duty of rest of us to take up arms to protect those people. Similar gesture to protect other communities is not forthcoming from these men so how do they expect co-operation on humanitarian grounds? For example there were reports of Bangladeshi Muslims being looted and massacred in Assam province. There was a huge cry about it on facebook with images that may not have essentially related to the province. The other side of the story is, when muslims do wrong in that province, it is hard for the police to take any actions against the person because the entire community stands up. This is the reason people out there were fed up and they went on killing spree. I am told that first it was Bodo individuals who were killed, and Bodos retaliated. It is hard to determine who did what. Sometimes provoking remarks and behaviors can cause uncontrollable anger and rage in people who are stressed out. Therefore, such incidents cannot be taken in isolation. We, the ordinary folks out here, cannot take a call based on what we read on facebook, can we? All facts are not before us..and we dont know what triggered those events. So at the best, we can pray for peace out there. My muslim friends were so disappointed with my attitude that they labeled me as communal for not wanting to do something about it all, as if I matter. They unfriend me, and that HURT, because I have been one of the most unbiased persons around.
The wrongs that we Hindus have done? You tell me what we have not done..lol. I feel every religion has its black sheeps. We shouldnt judge a religion based on it. My relatives have been bad to me. That should make me anti Hindus, right? When I dont do that, why should I go about condemning muslims based on stray incidents? My philosophy. Yes, Babri Masjid demolition was wrong - very wrong, and what followed it was shameful. But I am just an ordinary person with a voice that is not good enough to reach out to many. I also dont know how to confirm issues. So in principle, Islam is a good religion, just like any other, some of the followers may be bad. Ideally, people should be low key on their religion so that nobody gets to classify them as good or bad based on their religion.
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@vandana7 (100282)
• India
7 Sep 12
As I said, I have had good experiences with moslem women. I had a friend called Kulsum who spared me her notes in college when I was very sick. Gosh that is an incident almost 40 years ago..lol.
Then, I learnt how women must know how to be satisfied with what god offers from a total stranger. She traveled in an auto with me. We do share autos. Her contentment and consideration made me realize that after a point money ceases to be important.
Then there was a moslem valuer (male person) he pulled out his car to drop me to a safe place as he felt his locality would be unsafe for me.
Then there was a kid..who couldnt keep roza. So he said aunty will you please eat in the dining instead of eating here so that I can come there and eat and my brother wouldnt know. He ate from my plate like my child.
Then there was a moslem lady at the hospital trying to tell me that operation would be successful, the doctor is good. Total stranger again. What made her approach me I dont know. I still cant get her out of my mind for that gesture.
Devilova..these are my touching moments. The reason I am more impressed with muslims may be because I dont expect them to do anything nice. It is drilled into our heads that they are not reliable, thanks to the Indo Pak wars and our partition debacle. However, my personal experiences have shown me a different set of people. As I said, I have been harmed more by Hindus. Had there been more muslims in my friend circle, may be I would have had bad experience with them as well. However, in principle, I have never been harmed by any muslim, so I am going to judge them based on personal experience. They are nice folks.
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@Devilova (5392)
• Indonesia
7 Sep 12
Well, experience told everything right?
I live in Indonesia, the country that some said as a country of the terrorist.
But for those who already visited, they will absolutely come back.
Even when their government declared a travell warning to my country.
As a muslim, if I have a chance to stop that radicalls. It will be my pleasure to do it.
Cause bomb will create a random victims, it didn't care who they are.
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@thesids (22180)
• Bhubaneswar, India
6 Sep 12
Hi Devilova
I never have had any wrong feelings about Islam. I am a Hindu, from India and I love and respect all religions. It is true that the events and news you refer to are existent but then, I do have muslim friends who are just like me - people and human - enough for me to realize that it is just the work of a few bad people - and the work of a few should not be said for all.
Personally, I had been to the mosque a few times, loved the discourses and what I understood is that Islam is about brotherhood and love and respect just like other religions.
So cheer up. The good and bad exist everywhere.
@marguicha (223008)
• Chile
6 Sep 12
I think that part of the things I like about this site is that you learn something about other cultures and beliefs. Ignorance goes hand in hand with prejudices, fear and hathred and the more we learn about each other, the best for all of us.
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@Graptopetalum (1807)
• Canada
10 Sep 12
I think most people of any group are fairly OK. This is particularly true if you don't get to know them very well. I suggest you try asking Muslims what they think about child marriage, Israel, the holocaust and wife beating and then see if you still like them.
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@redvakaurvaki (4216)
• Indonesia
7 Sep 12
hi, devi, I'm moslem too. talking about religion is actually something private for some people, but I also have similar curiousity about what people thought about Islam. there are many bad rumours about Islam out there, but I believe that actually Islam is religion that bring peace. it's depend on people how to see Islam and moslem
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@adhyz82 (36249)
• Indonesia
15 Sep 12
they forgot that many terrorism is not only Moslem...
what they say about Pastor terry Jones?? he is not moslem..
but he try to burn the Holy AlQuran..the bad news, no one think he is terrorism...he had terrored our faith, our religion with his mad idea...Why he must try to burn our Holy book?? what`s going on with the world..
@redvakaurvaki (4216)
• Indonesia
8 Sep 12
I'm sad with those who mark Islam as a Terrorist Religion. everyone have belief and wheter terrorist or not, it's depend on each devotee, not fault of religion. I saw many discussion about islam in mylot. some people give their respect and other do not.
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@else22 (4317)
• India
6 Sep 12
I am from India.Have many Muslim friends all of whom are good persons.Although I don't know whether they follow all the rules of their religion.Being a Hindu by religion I respect all religions although I don't have much knowledge about them.I don't know much about Islam either.So I can't form an opinion about it.Still I would like to express my deep grief about the fact that the terrorists from your religion have made Muslims like you seek people's opinion about your religion.I am sometimes bound to think whether Islam is really a religion or a politics in disguise.Developments in India and all other countries of the world,particularly the Islamic ones force me to think so.Terrorists from your religion have earned a bad name for your religion.We Hindus don't care what others think about our religion.Why good Muslims like you do?I sincerely hope you would not mistake me.Why was India partitioned?Were Muslims then were a separate nation,as Jinah asserted?If they were,then why was Pakistan partitioned in 1971?Why was Mujib not allowed to rule the country despite winning the general election?Why millions of Muslims are treated as 'muhazirs' even in a Muslim country like Pakistan?Are Muslims who still live in India a different nation,according to Jinah's assertion?Why slogans like 'All Muslims are not terrorists,but how is it that all terrorists are Muslims' became popular?
It is a matter of deep grief to see good Muslims like you seeking others' opinion on your religion.I hope,you would not misconceive me,sister?
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@else22 (4317)
• India
6 Sep 12
Hi sister,I can feel your pain on being treated like this.You are from a good family.Don't bother.Let people say what they like.Follow your religion sincerely and faithfully.I know there has been a lot of misunderstanding about Islam.I respect your religion and you and your family as well.All I know is that you are a good human being.Otherwise you would not have been so much concerned about what others think about your religion.People all over the world talk nonsense about others whether they are Muslims,Hindus or Christians.You can't shut their mouth.They talk and continue to talk,because they have nothing else to do.Have faith in God and continue living like kind,nice and good persons which is something you have been doing.
I am going to send a friend request to you.Would you please accept me as your own brother and a friend?
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@ikasuryani95 (346)
• Indonesia
7 Sep 12
i have many Muslim friends and they always be good to me. I respect their religion as well as they respect mine. sometime we joke around about the difference between our religion. but never for serious.
but sadly.. i'm so sad that so many terrorist known is Muslim... I just saying what i think now because you said to be honest. but i believe that, the Islam terrorist is just the 0.0000001% of all the good Muslim :)
I will and always still respect them :)
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@ikasuryani95 (346)
• Indonesia
16 Sep 12
thankyou, devilova, for your understanding :)
adhyz, looks like i'm misunderstanding about terrorist here. so they are jewish ..?
:O
i'm sorry for my big misunderstanding then.. ..
i'm not generalize it. i just said that the terrorist i know, is muslim.. and now i understand that they are not muslim but jewish..
thank you for explain it to me so that later i will not do the same misunderstanding :)
@Pale_moon (98)
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6 Sep 12
I don't know much about Islam.I my country the government don't advocate the people to believe in religion though we enjoy the freedom to believe in religion
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@Pale_moon (98)
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6 Sep 12
What I mean is we enjoy the freedom to believe in a religion but the government tell us we had better not to believe in religion,besides,we can't work in government departments or join the party in power.
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@Pose123 (21635)
• Canada
7 Sep 12
Hi Devilova, I am not a religious person but I am spiritual and I don't know a lot about Islam. However, I do not believe the things that I hear in the media and think that Islam and Christianity have a lot in common. I would like to see people of all religions learn to live together in peace. I have only known a few Muslims in my life but those that I knew were fine people and I had great respect for them. My problem with all religions is all the killings that go on because each group think that they are right and all others wrong. You are a Muslim and I would welcome you into my home as quickly as I would a Christian or someone from another religion. It is the way people live, not what they believe that matters to me. Blessings.
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@Devilova (5392)
• Indonesia
8 Sep 12
Yes you are absolutely right Pose.
Its not about the religion, but more to their people.
If someone said that Islam is a terrorist religion, its mean they also considered me as a terrorist. Right?
Also, when someone said that Islam is a religion that ask its believers to kill others who aren't muslims. My country will lost millions of people, and other country with Islam is the mayority.
Its a bad habits when people judging whole community based on the act of some of their members.
Thats why, our ancient people create this wiseword.
"A drop of poison will effect gallons of water".
This is to make people to becarefull on every act.
@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
6 Sep 12
hi Devilova I know so little about Islam and Muslim and what I had heard was all twisted as 9/11 happened and I thought if those were devout Muslims then that has to be a horrid religion to kill anyone who does not bend to their belief.and yet I had Muslim friends who wept with me as 9;11 happened.So I know really very little
and have heard that most Muslims also thought 9/;11 was just
horrible.So I really cannot say what I believe as I wish to be
fair.My muslim friends were good friends too.,
@vandana7 (100282)
• India
7 Sep 12
Hatley..I too like to be fair. Recently I learnt that the World Trade Center buildings were demolished from inside rather than by those planes crashing in on them. I dont know if this is also a theory or fact. But if indeed that is true, I feel so sorry for the fear psychosis it has created against the Muslims. I also felt that Afghanistan and Iraq were a bit too much. There are innocents who die in the process. How is that justified? Life is not like a BMW that we can create another after destroying, isn't it? Not only the innocents out there, even the people from US and other UN forces who went there as commanded qualify as innocents. Nobody knew the truth, if indeed WTC towers were demolished because they were very hard to maintain. To me, however, that theory seems far-fetched. Primarily because the plane that went towards Pentagon and other one moving towards Capitol Hill remain unexplained. Notwithstanding the fact that that may have been the work of Muslim terrorists, I would still not have gone to attack Afghanistan. I am also against our policy on erstwhile Bangladesh and protection of Tamils in Sri Lanka. I am against killing in general.
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@goldenteardrops (747)
• United States
7 Sep 12
There is good news and bad news. In all areas of everyones country and people. But that does not make All bad..although many look and blame all but yet the news is making money just to give what some people want to hear.. I beleive love is in us all. I bleieve if more people loved as Jesus did we would see things differant. Jesus is my Lord and savior as a christain. I believe because He has done so much for the believer in Him. He does not change , people change..I have had many prayers answered and seen through with . I have felt His presence. Tv and news are right sometimes about a few people but yet have been wrong also. They know alot of news is bad news and mostly show the bad ..yet we hear because we have no other way of knowing unless we hear. I think there is good and bad in all places of land and differant beliefs..but know a truth one must learn and seek and find it. not by man's way but by oneself in wanting to know. I love my country the United States. yet here there is many walks of life.. My walk is God and Jesus Christ which I find comfort and joy . The joy of the Lord is my strengh to help with the troubles and time of needs.
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@tedifa (1232)
• Indonesia
6 Sep 12
This topic i think was very deep.I'm afraid some people will be mad or give wrong opinion about this topic that they're didn't know.Hope admin never deleted this topic.I am muslim,as i know that don't ever ask someone who didn't know well about Islam.I know that devilova goal was good,but what about other people who still in little knowledge about Islam ? Don't ever bother other religion and other religion can't bother our religion.For me Islam is Forever.
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@Graptopetalum (1807)
• Canada
11 Sep 12
It's probably good to know what people think, even if you don't agree with them. It may give you a good idea as to what can be done to improve people's conceptions. Having said that, I think greater knoweldg about Islam will lead to greated hostility towards it, not less.
@fashionfever (2200)
• Indonesia
10 Sep 12
I personally not interested in participating religion's discussion but Im interested to join this discussion because you mentioned about Indonesia several times in your responses, and you said that all Muslims in Indonesia is accused and blacksheeped as terrorist.
First, my opinion about Islam is the same like other religion, that every religion teach their follower how to be close to God. I think that religions is like vehicle, whether it will bring you to your destination or not is depend on the way you drive your vehicle, we cannot blame the vehicle if the vehicle crashed other car...blame the individu/the driver but dont generalize all drivers the same. As you know that there are many religions, let's make an analogy that religion=car, the religion believer=driver. People choose their own vehicle that suit them, some would choose manual, other choose automatic transmition, some people choose honda, other choose toyota, and other choose ferrari..if you chose manual transmition car it doesnt mean those who chose automatic transmition are bad. It is the same with religion, if you choose a religion and other choose their own religion its because they choose the religion that suit them.
People have different opinion about religion because so many factors, perhaps its because of media but dont forget perhaps they ever had bad experience with people with different religion, like being judged, being attacked, etc. You said that Islam is being blacksheeped and some people think Islam=terrorist, people has different opinion you know....even in Indonesia there are Muslim who thinks that the Christian has hidden agenda to convert the Muslim to Christianity, ever heard "indomie hidden agenda" it is a saying when Muslim think that Christian try to convert them to Christianity by money or daily needs stocks. You see that some people who have negative opinion about other religion believer is everywhere & in every religion. Instead of focusing yourself as an object of oppression and telling the whole world that you are being badnaming/blacksheeping/badmouthing, it will be better if you work hard by holding hand togethers side by side with other people to build a peace neighborhood between people who have different religion. If people seeing that you have good attitude & socialize with other, they would like change their opinion.
Showing other that your religion is good is not by lecturing other and claiming your religion is the right one, not by comparing your religion with other religion, but show it through your action that ISlam teach peace and tolerance especially this part "lakum dinukum waliyaddin" i dont know how to write it but you know what I mean that Islam teach you to respect other people's belief. Show it through action dont just showing the theory.
If you intepret my post as against Muslim and badnaming them I'll write to you in Indonesian language. And keep in mind that I said "some" some is not the same as "all"
@artemeis (4194)
• China
13 Sep 12
I wonder if you had collected your thoughts and use your objective logic in your response here.
I believe NOT.
Back in 98, when the world's largest Muslim populated Indonesia went amok and attacked every known Chinese in your homeland every national news station and papers denounced and CONDEMNED the Muslims. What did the Chinese do to deserve such a horrible act? Why don't you tell the world here?
The Chinese were maimed, tortured, burnt and women raped and killed. Who stood up? Which Iman in the whole of Indonesia stood up to calm the situation? Let's not forget that not all of those responsible were arrested and punished to this day?
You mention that Islam teach peace and tolerance then let us all ask where is the tolerance in 98 and this atrocious attack on the US embassy in Benghazi and claimed the lives of 4 Americans?
@Graptopetalum (1807)
• Canada
13 Sep 12
fashionfever, let's consider your car analogy. There are some cars which are bad, they tend to break down and crash, sometimes causing accidents. Some have computer navigation systmes that lead people to drive into fields or lakes. Similarly, yes there are bad drivers who get into trouble because of the way they drive their religion. There are also bad religions that tend to get people into trouble because of their teachings.
A good Christian should try to convert any non-Christians they can. Don't Muslims try to convert Christians and other non-Muslims?
@tocquevil (157)
• China
7 Sep 12
China has more than 100 million religious belivers,and this is the figure released by official.
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@Pale_moon (98)
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7 Sep 12
I really envy someone who believe in religion.In China most people are spiritual fot the lack of faith.
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