Do you believe in PREDESTINATION?

2 Peter 3:9 King James Version (KJV) 9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. 2 Peter 3:9 (AMP) 9 The Lord does not delay and is not tardy or slow about what He promises, according to some people’s conception of slowness, but He is long-suffering (extraordinarily patient) toward you, not desiring that any should perish, but that all should turn to repentance. 2 Peter 3:9 (CJB) 9 The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some people think of slowness; on the contrary, he is patient with you; for it is not his purpose that anyone should be destroyed, but that everyone should turn from his sins. If God does not desire any to perish or be destroyed then there is no such thing as predestination. We choose what happens to us when it comes to our final destiny. Have a great day!

Predestination is true...absolutely true because the Bible tells it so. Romans 8:29-30 says, “For those God foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the likeness of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brothers. And those he predestined, he also called; those he called, he also justified; those he justified, he also glorified.” Ephesians 1:5 and 11 both state, “He predestined us to be adopted as his sons through Jesus Christ, in accordance with his pleasure and will...In him we were also chosen, having been predestined according to the plan of him who works out everything in conformity with the purpose of his will.” However some people misunderstood Predestination so that they agreed with Calvin whose interpretation is to me not what the Bible exactly says. Just read the verses and it tells exactly what Predestination is and not how Calvin misinterpreted the doctrine of Predestination.

The idea of predestination comes about because the word 'predestined' appears in our translation of the Bible, and in a sense it is correct, but we must step out of our narrow minds to understand it. Suppose you are God (way to start a conversation)... my belief is that God sees below him not only all the people in all the countries in the world as individuals, but that he also sees time as a long line from start to finish. He sees it all now, right now - he can see creation and he can see whatever the end times will bring at the same time. He knows what decisions we will make at every juncture of our life - it's not difficult for him - even our earthly Father's are quite good at that... but he knows perfectly - he doesn't have to force us to do anything because he 'knows' what we will do. He even knows when we will do something apparently 'random'. Now the problem many people have is that they think this precludes their choice - this is the misunderstanding (IMO) just because God knows what we will do, does not mean that we have no choice - we have ultimate choice and that is because that is exactly how God wanted us to be. It's just that God knows what that choice will be even before you have thought about making it - but it's still YOUR choice. It is not uncommon for people to say that predestination means they don't have to make a choice for themselves - I believe that this usually a 'clever excuse' one they know people will struggle to explain. Alternatively, people may have a chip on their shoulder about God and use it as a kind of rebellious answer, but in all honesty, we all know that we are not puppets, so predestination cannot properly be used to make the excuse that you referred to (IMO).

I don't believe in predestination because we choose whether or not if we want to be saved. Its a choice, its not a religion, its a relationship. Just like the relationships we choose in life for a spouse or a friend. We choose salvation because we cannot obtain it on our own. People who are lost have not found God and those who have found him and follow him will never be guided away from him.

Yes and no... for me predestination applies to other aspects but not in all aspects. It's hard for me to explain but I'm sure you more or less get my point. :)

I don't believe in predestination, because that means that God picked X amount of people to become Christians and that kind of nullifies free will if it means that a sinner can't repent because only X amount of people were predestined to become Christians.

Since you are predestined to be lost or saved, is making a choice to repent or backslide a part of predestination also?